CGC graded Pulps - my first experience and results. 3 3

[tth2]

On 5/6/2024 at 12:38 PM, waaaghboss said:

Reposting this, it's a pair of early 40s amazing stories. 

 The lighter color pages look amazing!  Is it a Yakima?

On 5/6/2024 at 12:38 PM, waaaghboss said:

One of my unrelated submissions got white pages, and they are pretty, but scanning various pulp slabs I've only seen a few with white pages so it would be tough to aim for that imp.

Fortunately, there're more options than just "C-OW" and "W"! 

It'll be interesting to see if slabbed pulp collectors start gravitating towards "OW" or better like many slabbed comic collectors did.

[Robot Man]

I’ve said it before but pulp paper is never “white” even off the roll at the time of printing. At best “off white”. So, technically that is about the best it comes. Pulp paper yellows in time. Quicker in less than optimal situations. Then progresses from there. 

[Darwination]

Even some of the brownest pulp stock can still be really thick and supple.  I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water because of page color.  Conversely, you can find some middle tones that are dry and brittle.

I don't doubt the high end collectors will concern themselves with page color, but there's probably not going to be a lot of options when it comes to earlier books in high grade.  We'll see!

[tth2]

On 5/6/2024 at 11:28 PM, Darwination said:

I don't doubt the high end collectors will concern themselves with page color, but there's probably not going to be a lot of options when it comes to earlier books in high grade.  We'll see!

Thus far, it's not like every slabbed pulp from the 30s is C-OW or worse. 

[Robot Man]

Got my last pulp back from my 3/24 submission at WonderCon.

Am actually a little disapointed with this one. My favorite romance pulp and a top 10 favorite pulp in my collection. Apparently, I missed “very slight rust on staples”. Thought they were a bit harsh on overhang tears as well. The few tiny tears on this one look to be bindery flaws not due to handling. I had it pegged at 8.0.

Also notes on the label. I had asked for a Halloween cover mention but that seems to be important to me than most folks. Also, it is a writer file copy. Bought it from David T Alexander and had paperwork with it. Seems, they are being pretty tough on things like this.

A pleasant suprise though. It came in a thinner slab like a comic slab instead of the very thick one my first pulp came in. Much snugger and a perfect fit. Also takes up a lot less storage space. I mentioned it to Matt and he agreed and said they are still working things out.

Still looks nice and I am considering a few more before a lot of pulps surge more in price and up the submission costs. 

 

[Point Five]

Great cover! New one to me.  

[Robot Man]

On 5/8/2024 at 8:49 AM, Point Five said:

Great cover! New one to me.  

The wonderful world of pulps. Every day is a new discovery for me. Too many pulps and not enough money or storage space. 

[frozentundraguy]

Just received 2 graded pulps back from CGC. Both of these are the only issue graded for the particular issue. I guess it's still early in the process.  I was slightly disappointed in the grade one received. Will be away for a few days, so I will post these pulps later.

[frozentundraguy]

Back with a couple of pulps, both LCS purchases.

I thought the grading for Astounding Science-Fiction #92 (July 38) would be more forgiving of the few small chunks that are missing. Robot man is right about taking up space, as the 2 pulps are slightly thicker than 3 graded comic books.

Thrilling Wonder Stories #61 (August 35) exceeded my expectations as the book has a small spine split.

[comicjack]

I sent a bunch down all coming back with happy results they look great in the slabs.The results are just positive with many with great page quality and some being highest graded for now we know how that goes 

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[Robot Man]

Nice books and great results. These are the type of books I am focusing on grading now. Higher grade classics that still fall into the bottom tier. For now…

Did they all come back in those real thick slabs?

Edited May 22 by Robot Man

[comicjack]

On 5/21/2024 at 8:06 PM, Robot Man said:

Nice books and great results. These are the type of books I am focusing on grading now. Higher grade classics that still fall into the bottom tier. For now…

Did they all come back in those real thick slabs?

No they are all pretty regular size pulps just made to allow the overhangs.They basically look like comic slabs maybe just a little room to allow the pulp i don't think i have any thick pulps.I did see what you were talking about the slabs moving in the well but nothing with this bunch.

Edited May 22 by comicjack

[ThothAmon]

On 5/21/2024 at 8:15 PM, comicjack said:

No they are all pretty regular size pulps just made

Those are awesome. How many pedigrees of pulps has CGC recognized?

 

I need to put together a submission. I’ve got tons from the “old dead guy” collection I’d like to submit. 

[comicjack]

On 5/21/2024 at 8:26 PM, ThothAmon said:

Those are awesome. How many pedigrees of pulps has CGC recognized?

 

I need to put together a submission. I’ve got tons from the “old dead guy” collection I’d like to submit. 

Yakima seems to be the one i have seen but sure more will follow.I just wanted see how they turned out pretty happy with the results !

[CGC Mike]

On 5/21/2024 at 8:26 PM, ThothAmon said:

How many pedigrees of pulps has CGC recognized?

Pulp pedigrees

 

CGC recognizes two pedigree collections centric to pulps: Strasser and Yakima. The Strasser collection was found stacked on shelves in the basement of a farmhouse in Ohio in the late 1980s. The collection numbered nearly 2,000 pulps, encompassing issues published between 1933 and 1939, and was very high grade with white paper. A code containing the letter A, D or C (and sometimes the name “Robert Strasser”) was written in fountain pen on each cover, usually in the logo. Many popular titles were present in the collection, including Shadow, Doc Savage, Spider, Operator 5, Wu Fang, Yen Sin, Pete Rice, Phantom Detective and Argosy. They were sold piecemeal at pulp conventions in subsequent years.

"Secret Agent X" and "Popular Detective" pulps from the Strasser pedigree. Click images to enlarge.

 

The Yakima collection surfaced in Yakima, Washington, in the late 1990s, containing mostly science fiction pulps between 1939 and 1953, which were stored in wooden boxes in a basement. The collection also included many pre-1939 pulps in lower grade, but those from 1939 on were unread copies with deep ink, full gloss and white pages. Dave Smith purchased most of the Yakimas and included certificates with each copy as he sold them. Full runs of Amazing Stories, Startling Stories, Thrilling Wonder Stories, Planet Stories, Fantastic Adventures, Astounding and Doc Savage were present in the Yakima collection.

A Yakima pedigree certificate and images of the Yakima storage upon discovery. Click images to enlarge.

 

Several comic book pedigree collections also contained pulps, including Edgar Church/Mile High, Bethlehem and White Mountain. Pulps identified as originating from a comic book pedigree collection, as well as from the Strasser and Yakima collections, will receive the CGC pedigree label if in unrestored condition.

 

[comicjack]

Thanks Mike for the info 

[Point Five]

On 5/21/2024 at 7:34 PM, comicjack said:

I sent a bunch down all coming back with happy results they look great in the slabs.The results are just positive with many with great page quality and some being highest graded for now we know how that goes 

Great stuff, Jack!