JDH-84 Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 Better pic ADAMANTIUM, David-Lance Roten, crazyhips and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) On 7/6/2024 at 8:51 AM, JDH-84 said: Better pic ok mine has one of those but mine is in the middle of the book that almost looks as though it is being "folded", and the book in the slab is not flat but has an arc to it. I don't blame your concerns given recent admissions, I think it is still a 9.8, but reflects bad on cgc more than anything "They gave that 9.8?" When we know it "was" but how do we now "look at it?" and if it isn't the arc of the book in the inner well and yours is flat? then what is it? Edited July 6 by ADAMANTIUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 6:04 AM, JollyComics said: OMG, seriously??? I have seen a similar CGC 9.8 copper age DC that seems to have experienced pressing reversion so now looks like a legit CGC 9.0 in a 9.8 slab. This was 11 days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) On 7/6/2024 at 10:39 AM, aardvark88 said: I have seen a similar CGC 9.8 copper age DC that seems to have experienced pressing reversion so now looks like a legit CGC 9.0 in a 9.8 slab. This was 11 days ago. What legit? What did we see the legit? What did CGC see the legit? Edited July 6 by JollyComics ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I wanted to offload a CGC 9.8 from my last submission. It has the warped inner well and several spine ticks. Everyone who has looked at it was not at all interested when I pointed those problems out. This was a book pressed by CGC's in-house service. Looks worse than when sent in. Copper age Spiderman comic. jimbo_7071 and aardvark88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/5/2024 at 10:39 PM, Sigur Ros said: Seeing what gets a 9.9 these days, there's no reason to doubt this grade. It seems like CGC's grades have been getting softer and softer over the past three years. It seems like the shift occurred around the time that Blackstone purchased the company. That can't be a coincidence. I have to believe that the word came down from on high to relax the grading (in order to encourage resubmissions, most likely). Many of us were blown away by the soft grades on the Promise Collection books that surfaced a few years ago, but now the grading on other books is closing the gap. D84 and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 12:32 PM, Yorick said: I wanted to offload a CGC 9.8 from my last submission. It has the warped inner well and several spine ticks. Everyone who has looked at it was not at all interested when I pointed those problems out. This was a book pressed by CGC's in-house service. Looks worse than when sent in. Copper age Spiderman comic. Too many untrained people. They are underpaid. I think. mr_highgrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttfitz Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2024 at 9:41 AM, ThothAmon said: Seems like this is a disadvantage in the modern comics market that really doesn’t exist in golden age and silver books. I’ve sold hundreds of slabs over the years with zero asks for returns/refunds. It's threads like these that make me glad I don't collect high grade books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 6.5 is hi grade to me !! vheflin, ttfitz, EmilC and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CGC Mike Posted July 8 Administrator Share Posted July 8 @JDH-84 You can send this book back as a mechanical error. Be sure to write ATTN: Matt Nelson and press and regrade on the packing slip. If you decide to do this, be sure to send me the tracking number when it ships. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostboys Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 On 7/6/2024 at 2:05 PM, jimbo_7071 said: It seems like CGC's grades have been getting softer and softer over the past three years. It seems like the shift occurred around the time that Blackstone purchased the company. That can't be a coincidence. I have to believe that the word came down from on high to relax the grading (in order to encourage resubmissions, most likely). Many of us were blown away by the soft grades on the Promise Collection books that surfaced a few years ago, but now the grading on other books is closing the gap. Its not just the past 3 years. I recently bought a Walking Dead #6 CGC 9.8 and it was in an older slab...the kind without the page color under the grade. It has 2 light bends on the back cover, 1 breaks color. Theres also some horrific puddling going on back there but thats post grade stuff. jimbo_7071 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tec-Tac-Toe Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 On 7/8/2024 at 2:06 PM, lostboys said: Its not just the past 3 years. I recently bought a Walking Dead #6 CGC 9.8 and it was in an older slab...the kind without the page color under the grade. It has 2 light bends on the back cover, 1 breaks color. Theres also some horrific puddling going on back there but thats post grade stuff. I have a few slabs with some puddling that if you move them just right, you get: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) On 7/8/2024 at 2:06 PM, lostboys said: Its not just the past 3 years. I recently bought a Walking Dead #6 CGC 9.8 and it was in an older slab...the kind without the page color under the grade. It has 2 light bends on the back cover, 1 breaks color. Theres also some horrific puddling going on back there but thats post grade stuff. There have been other soft periods. People have said that many books graded around 2011 got very soft grades. When I buy books online, I check the slab date. If it was graded in 2011, give or take a few months, I look at it extra closely, and I have rejected quite a few books from that era because the true grade didn't appear to match the assigned grade. I've purchased a few books from that time period and been happy with the grades, but I think there's something to the observation that 2011 was a soft year at CGC. Edited July 8 by jimbo_7071 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...