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PGM Journey into mystery 83
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Question, what defect if any is the tape attempting to repair, a spine split, tears on the spine or is it just there as a precautionary repair?

Slight blunting of corners, top edge is not trimmed properly and has denting/creasing, color breaking scratches/creases along outer/bottom edge, 3-4 long color breaking creases on lower cover, cover wrap is off center, two pieces of tape on spine (purpose?) minor to moderate spine wear with multiple color breaking spine ticks/stress lines/tears, multiple creases/dents/small tears along top edge of rear cover, vertical creases alone spine of rear cover, creasing/denting along outer edge of rear cover, small tears along lower edge of rear cover, minor discoloration of rear cover, minor to moderate foxing along lower spine of rear cover.

IMO...VG+ 4.5 to "possibly" VG/FN 5.0 (Max)

VG 4.0 - "Only minor unobtrusive tape and other amateur repair allowed on otherwise high grade copies."

 

6.0 FINE (FN):  Back to Top
An above-average copy that shows minor wear but is still relatively flat and clean with no significant creasing or other serious defects. Some accumulation of minor bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor cover wear apparent, with minor to moderate creases. Inks show a significant reduction in reflectivity. Blunted corners are more common, as is minor staining, soiling, discoloration, and/or foxing. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. A minor spine roll is allowed. There can also be a 1/4" spine split or severe color break. Staples may show minor discoloration. Minor staple tears and a few slight stress lines may be present, as well as minor rust migration. Paper is tan to brown and fairly supple with no signs of brittleness. Minor interior tears at the margin may be present. Centerfold may be loose.

5.5 FINE- (FN-):  Back to Top
Fits the criteria for Fine but with an additional defect or small accumulation of defects that detracts from the book's appearance by a perceptible amount.

5.0 VERY GOOD/FINE (VG/FN):  Back to Top
An above-average but well used comic book. An accumulation of bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor to moderate cover wear apparent, with minor to moderate creases and/or dimples. Inks have moderate to low reflectivity. Blunted corners are increasingly common, as is minor to moderate staining, discoloration, and/or foxing. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. A minor to moderate spine roll is allowed. A spine split of up to 1/2" may be present. Staples may show minor discoloration. Minor staple tears and minor stress lines may also be present, as well as minor rust migration. Paper is tan to brown with no signs of brittleness. Centerfold may be loose. Minor interior tears may also be present.

4.5 VERY GOOD+ (VG):  Back to Top
Fits the criteria for Very Good but with an additional virtue or small accumulation of virtues that improves the book's appearance by a perceptible amount.

4.0 VERY GOOD (VG):  Back to Top
The average used comic book. Cover shows moderate to significant wear, and may be loose but not completely detached. Cover reflectivity is low. Can have moderate creases or dimples. Corners may be blunted. Store stamps, name stamps, arrival dates, initials, etc. have no effect on this grade. Some discoloration, fading, foxing, and even minor soiling is allowed. As much as a 1/4" triangle can be missing out of the corner or edge; a missing 1/8" square is also acceptable. Only minor unobtrusive tape and other amateur repair allowed on otherwise high grade copies. Moderate spine roll may be present and/or a 1" spine split. Staples may be discolored. Minor to moderate staple tears and stress lines may be present, as well as some rust migration. Paper is brown but not brittle. Minor to moderate interior tears may be present. Centerfold may be loose or detached at one staple.

 

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On 10/22/2024 at 1:27 PM, marvelmaniac said:

"Patrick MaHomes"

I think it's natural for someone to get excited when something cool comes across their desk & decisions are impacted by emotions. That said, Mahomes should be flagged on every play whether he committed an infraction or not.

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I think this would be a 3.5. to 4.0 IMO. I feel like the (at least three) long color breaking creases across the front cover and spine condition already put you it the 4.0-4.5 category. The tape, while minor, has to knock it a little. There's also the issue of the chewed up UL corner- there appears to be some corner missing, more than just cover. Needless to say, I would be proud to be the owner of this key of keys! Please post results when you get them.

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On 10/22/2024 at 3:10 PM, scburdet said:

I think it's natural for someone to get excited when something cool comes across their desk & decisions are impacted by emotions. That said, Mahomes should be flagged on every play whether he committed an infraction or not.

And, IMO, if you are going to pick and choose, all books from a certain age/era regardless of what they are should be graded equally, if you are going to show leniency for books due to age it has to include all books from that era, not just a "Major Key".  AF 15, F.F. 1 should be graded the same as any Early Silver Age book. 

Does CGC do this and if so, how would it be determined?

IE: 1939-1945, 1946-Sept 1956, Sept 1956-1964,1965-1970, etc.

Me personally, all of these books would be graded the same, you should not be wearing "Rose Colored Glasses" when grading.

 

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This is one of those books that could benefit from more pictures.

As marvelmaniac pointed out, this could potentially fall into a pretty wide range of grades based on the severity of the defects, as well as other hidden defects which may be discovered under closer scrutiny...

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