Nightcrawler's Birth Story in Uncanny X-men 428

[NewtSamson]

Uncanny X-men 428 claims that Kurt Wagner is only 20 years old. For some reason he seems older to me.

Other than that the origin story of his birth finnaly trully revealing that Mystique is really his mother was most interesting.

Who is this Azazel guy who made Raven Wagner pregnant? Is he a new character or is there history on this guy?

Thanks.

[deathlok]

I have been waiting for this story plot to finally see print for many years. Nightcrawler has always been a favorite character of mine.

 

They have always hinted at Raven being his mother, in fact I believe she told him she was. Although his father was never revealed. It seems his father is very Sinister both in appearance and attitude.

 

I certainly hope they give more details.

[chromium]

Seems like Marvel is dropping the ball on this one

 

This retcon is setting up Nghtcrawler as half man/half demon, a fact he has been fighting against since around #100 to prove he is a human mutant NOT a [!@#%^&^] demon.

 

As a matter of fact in X-men Annual #4 Dr Strange uses the Eye of Agamotto and realises Nightcrawler is human and has no demon in him...

 

Continuity sure is going down the drain at 'Nu Marvel'

[awe4one]

They have always hinted at Raven being his mother, in fact I believe she told him she was.

 

Yep, she told him in a back-up story in one of the X-Men Unlimiteds.....

 

 

Jim

[Proverbs22_2]

They have always hinted at Raven being his mother, in fact I believe she told him she was.

 

Yep, she told him in a back-up story in one of the X-Men Unlimiteds.....

 

 

Jim

 

Actually, Nightcrawler asked her if they were related the first time he laid eyes on her... She replied, "Ask Your Mother, Margali SwIcan'tspellitoz".

 

-Joe

[Ares]

If he is half human half demon then doesnt that disqualify him from Membership in the X-men?

[Illiterati-migration]

Who honestly cares, anyway? Has ANY plot thread in the X-Men mythos EVER been resolved?

 

Seriously, old X-Men storylines don't die, they just fade away......

[jjreason-migration]

We can't go saying Azazel is a demon, only demonic. We don't know enough about the character. I was a little surprised to see Kurt "Bamf" as an infant, wonder where he went?

[Jagull]

nah, i think there have even been non-mutant (human) members

[HarrisonJohn]

from an X-Men FAQ:

 

Which X-Men haven't been mutants?

Mimic, the original Phoenix, Longshot, and (possibly) the two Psylockes.

 

Mimic is Calvin Rankin, the son of a scientist, who got caught in an explosion in his father's lab, and gained the ability to copy superpowers of every superhuman near him, and keep all the powers until the people he stole them from were over a mile away or so. He's been killed a number of times in a variety of filler stories, and brought back just as often to just die again. Scott Lobdell tried to retcon this in a backup story somewhere by saying that Rankin was a latent mutant who just got his powers started up by his father's explosion. While there have been other latent mutants who have gained access to their powers in such dramatic ways in Marvel history, Scott Lobdell is also responsible for such continuity goofs as Storm declaring she resents and hates her thieving heritage, and all of X-Men Unlimited #4, while the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe still has Rankin as a non- mutant. This FAQ will go with the OHOTMU.

 

The original Phoenix (the one in UXM #101-137) was once Jean Grey, who was a mutant, of course, but has since been retconned into being the cosmic Phoenix Force itself, just pretending to be Jean Grey. As a cosmic entity, Phoenix automatically is disqualified from being a mutant; they have enough troubles as it is. See the entry on the Jean Grey/Phoenix relationship question in this FAQ for more information.

 

Longshot was a genetically-designed being from the dimension of the Spineless Ones. As an artificial life form, he cannot, by definition, be a mutant; his "free will" could be described as a design malfunction, but actually, it was programmed into him by Arize (Longshot #1-6). Even if he showed up on a mutant detector, something for which there is no textual support, he's still not a mutant, because nothing in his genetic makeup happened by mutation. He was built from the ground up.

 

The original Psylocke, Betsy Braddock, is the sister of Brian Braddock, aka Captain Britain. Both she and her brother gain their powers from their not-entirely human heritage (their father was from Otherworld). This was stated directly in her pre-X-Men appearances, as recounted now in the "Captain Britain" trade paperback. However, there are statements made in the X-titles clearly identifying her as a mutant--including a caption where Betsy described herself as a mutant in UXM #213, and an identification by the Master Mold in UXM #247. One reader points out that telepathic powers are unusual even for the Otherworlders--Brian's powers are more typical. While this doesn't prove that she is both a hybrid and a mutant, it adds a little credibility to the notion.

 

Kwannon may have been a mutant, or it may have been simply genetic engineering--it was revealed that she was a low-level empath, with her source of powers undetermined. (However, this generally means "mutant powers", especially where the X-titles are concerned.) The practical upshot of all this is that since Psylocke finally occupied Kwannon's body, the question of her mutancy no longer concerns her Otherworld origins.

 

[Jagull]

finally managed to pick this ish up

 

I see where Kurt gets the blue, pointed chin & ears, & tail..........but what about the fur?

he is a 'fuzzy blue elf' afterall

 

hopefully this story arc will deal with the archaeological dig that Kurt went on (with Lorna & Alex) some issues ago. In that issue, they found heiroglyphs of folks that look like Kurt