The Lions Den Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 8 hours ago, manetteska said: A lot of good information in your post; I have seen your posts around but somehow never knew you were a grader. Just highlighting and bolding this section as I said the exact same thing and was told I was wrong and rang your bell to put me in my place. Seems that didn't work out. I'm glad I could shed some light on the subject for you... Randall Dowling and manetteska 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Randall Dowling said: I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I wasn’t trying to put you in your place nor did I tell you that it was wrong that magazines being larger allows for more flaws. What I was saying is that, for me, that doesn’t bridge the gap on that grade. And I requested Johnny to discuss with all of us. This is the magazine forum. It’s a safe space. We don’t attack people here. Doug, I certainly do understand your point, and I appreciate your faith in me. Many times, CGC will encourage newer graders to work closely with veterans. In this way, it allows them to see why a veteran grader arrived at a given grade. Of course, even veteran graders don't always see eye-to-eye, and this may be one of the reasons there are occasional fluctuations in grading. In other words, it's not an exact science. I still inspect a lot of books, both raw and slabbed. There are times when I don't agree with the grade, but I usually just do this: Or once in a while, even this: And of course you're right---this is a safe space. There'll always be different points of view, but hopefully we're all open minded enough to broaden our perspective as we go... This is Who We Are, Randall Dowling, chevalmeow and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticNinja Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 On 4/3/2020 at 8:13 PM, Randall Dowling said: I managed a comic book store when I was 20. And that was in 1991, at the peak of comic shops. The guy that owned the store was one of the least ethical people I ever encountered. I can’t imagine what someone has to be like to be successful today. I know all of the LCS in my area are pretty bad... I stopped going to comic shops when I came across so many bad ones. And it was easier to see all the new covers on Midtown. I think I only remember two or three comic shops that I really enjoyed going to. I'm reading through this topic now. https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/354972-remembering-that-first-lcs/#comments But yeah I agree grading isn't an exact science. As someone who has been involved with books and comics for the majority of my life, I'm pretty good at knowing conditions. Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedcake Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Ya'll cut the malarkey and get back to posting beautiful Vampirella stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticNinja Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 22 hours ago, speedcake said: Ya'll cut the malarkey and get back to posting beautiful Vampirella stuff. I would say soon but the virus put the brakes on a Vampirella project I have in mind. But to give a tease. I do own The Art of Jose Gonzalez and the big Jose Gonzalez Vampirella Art Edition. chevalmeow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Escaflown41 Posted April 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 Anyone else collect these Vampirella art books? chevalmeow, This is Who We Are, GeneticNinja and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I have one of those. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemmg Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I absolutely love the Gonzalez book and have enjoyed the Warren years book as well. I probably should try out the other two as well. Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I have the Warren Years. Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, wombat said: I have the Warren Years. Me too!👍 Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, oakman29 said: Me too!👍 Of couse when you look at all 4 of them next to each other they sure look pretty. oakman29 and Randall Dowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, wombat said: Of couse when you look at all 4 of them next to each other they sure look pretty. Yep gotta get em all.🤩 Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escaflown41 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, wombat said: Of couse when you look at all 4 of them next to each other they sure look pretty. So what’s stopping ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escaflown41 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Here’s a nice affordable copy if anyone wants to bite the bulllet. https://www.ebay.com/itm/193413813837 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alawson453 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) Thought I'd show these off. I had the honor of meeting Barbara Leigh a couple years back at one of the Los Angeles Comic Cons. She was very personable and accommodating, signing whatever you put in front of her. I also bought her book and had her sign a couple Vampi issues(photo covers) I had on hand. Edited April 10, 2020 by Alawson453 Spelling Stevemmg, GeneticNinja, chevalmeow and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemmg Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) I was excited to get this. The original cover proof for Vampirella 80, which ended up with a different background, blurb and color scheme on 83. Personally, I prefer this version. If they would have kept the verbiage off the image, it would be even better Edited April 11, 2020 by Stevemmg The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Stevemmg said: I was excited to get this. The original cover proof for Vampirella 80, which ended up with a different background, blurb and color scheme on 83. Personally, I prefer this version. If they would have kept the verbiage off the image, it would be even better Just an awesome piece. I have a proof too. Eerie #40 Stevemmg, Randall Dowling and The Lions Den 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemmg Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Mmmmmmm.....Sanjulian Randall Dowling and oakman29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticNinja Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 4/7/2020 at 6:51 PM, Escaflown41 said: Anyone else collect these Vampirella art books? Just the one on the top left for me. Plus the Gonzalez Vampirella Art Edition which I believe could almost cover all four of those books unopened. I was surprised at that one as it's bigger than the Artist Editions I'm used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkga Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) I just got this modern Vampirella grail back from CGC today. It's a pain to photograph correctly, but it looks so much better in person. I actually rolled the dice and sold my 9.0 copy before I sent this one to be graded. Jackpot on the upgrade! Vengeance of Vampirella #1 Royal Blue Edition Edited April 13, 2020 by Darkga oakman29, Escaflown41, This is Who We Are and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...