spider9698 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 BZ I was just in Syracuse last week. Next time I go I better check those out! Thx S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I'm a big fan of old editorial cartoons. Good. (thumbs u December 10 - the feeling of betrayal sinks in and makes the nation really want to take it to Japan - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 A full year before the "official" start of WWII, Germany was massing at the border of Czechoslovakia after annexing Austria under the perview of Chamberlain. Germany used the discontent of the German minority, so-called Sudeten Germans, in Czechoslovakia to stir up the pot and poor Lord Runciman was supposed to mediate the conflict I am attaching an excellent and clear-minded analysis from mid-August 1938 in the Dallas Morning News. The writer has NO illusion as to Hitler's intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-Gun Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 From the Punch Almanac of 1939. These cartoons remind me of a WWII movie that I saw and one of the coldest days of my life. Riding to work in the winter time was too darn cold. But riding home for Xmas would have been worth it. Royal Enfield was a popular English motorcycle during the War. This next cartoon applies as well today as it did in 1939. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 Great stuff guys. Do either of you have any German or Japanese political cartoons from WWI or WWII? I don't think I've ever seen the war as represented from their point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-Gun Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Great stuff guys. Do either of you have any German or Japanese political cartoons from WWI or WWII? I don't think I've ever seen the war as represented from their point of view. I don't have any German books except photos of the Rhineland taken from a Zepplin. And my "ubersetzen" isn't what it used to be. But I have another cartoon from Punch that represents someone's idea about the viewpoint of German leadership before WWII. This reminded me of Schomburg's covers. Bernard Partridge did excellant work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Do either of you have any German or Japanese political cartoons from WWI or WWII? I believe I saw some from WWII on Monday. Are you interested in seeing some? There were in this book - Google Preview of The World War, 1939-1945: The Cartoonists' Vision by Roy Douglas (1990). I have access to it. It's not all cartoons but it's cartoons that are contextualized so the reader really understands their importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Great stuff guys. Do either of you have any German or Japanese political cartoons from WWI or WWII? I don't think I've ever seen the war as represented from their point of view. I actually have a book on WWII German propaganda and posters. I'm such a history geek that it was on my birthday wish list when I was in high school and my parents gave it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Here's the front and back covers of the book. I haven't read it in years but just leafing through it looks interesting enough for a re-read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Here's the front and back covers of the book. I haven't read it in years but just leafing through it looks interesting enough for a re-read. Thanks for the scans. Looks like a great book. I have some WWI German posters from my copy of The Poster in History by Max Gallo. This one by Willy Stower is asking for contributions to finance submarines - 1917 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 From 1918, without caption, below is What England Wants! by Egon Tschirch. The poster is reminding Germany of the declaration made by the English Labor leader Johnson Hicks: "Every day we must bomb the industrial complexes of the Rhineland with hundreds of airplaines until this cure takes effect" - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 1917 Poster entitled: Think of Our Children in which a child is menaced by the English serpent - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Here's the front and back covers of the book. I haven't read it in years but just leafing through it looks interesting enough for a re-read. Thanks for the scans. Looks like a great book. It's a comprehensive survey of the various forms of propaganda during the war including films, editorial cartoons, radio, posters, songs, stamps movies etc. There's quite a bit of text. Only one comic is illustrated - Speed 31. Some more examples: This is a de-motivational poster for American soldiers. There are even more explicit sex themed ones put out by the Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrael Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Fascinating posts. Keep them up! I have been on a WW2 kick lately and finished Ben Stein's "The Croesus Conspiracy" (fiction about Germany re-arming and a conspiracy in the USA government to bring back the 3rd Reich) and am reading "Submarine Diary" by a WW2 submarine executive officer. Yesterday a Czech-born Holocaust survivor spoke at my wife's school and I had the privilege of driving her to and from the school. She has seen and experienced some awful things when in Bergen-Belsen and Auschwitz and shared some of that with the 8th grade students. This year I was smart enough to record her 40 minute speech and 50 minute Q&A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Yesterday a Czech-born Holocaust survivor spoke at my wife's school and I had the privilege of driving her to and from the school. She has seen and experienced some awful things when in Bergen-Belsen and Auschwitz and shared some of that with the 8th grade students. This year I was smart enough to record her 40 minute speech and 50 minute Q&A. Way to go, recording her memories. My best read this year by far was 'The Lost: A Search for Six of Six Million' by Daniel Mendelsohn. It came out in late 2006 but I didn't read it until this past January. The author's search for his family history led him to a round-the-world journey to talk to all survivors of the events so as to piece together what happened so many years ago in Bolechow, Poland. I highly recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 Do either of you have any German or Japanese political cartoons from WWI or WWII? I believe I saw some from WWII on Monday. Are you interested in seeing some? Yes. There were in this book - Google Preview of The World War, 1939-1945: The Cartoonists' Vision by Roy Douglas (1990). I have access to it. It's not all cartoons but it's cartoons that are contextualized so the reader really understands their importance. For some reason my computer keeps freezing up when I try to scroll the pages of the book. From what I was able to see, the book looks fascinating. I'm going to try requesting it through an interlibrary loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 Here's the front and back covers of the book. I haven't read it in years but just leafing through it looks interesting enough for a re-read. I remember skimming through this book when it was in the bookstores. I kept hoping it would eventually end up on the remainder tables since the bookstore I frequented seemed to specialize in discounted books. I'm going to try getting it through my local library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 From 1918, without caption, below is What England Wants! by Egon Tschirch. The poster is reminding Germany of the declaration made by the English Labor leader Johnson Hicks: "Every day we must bomb the industrial complexes of the Rhineland with hundreds of airplaines until this cure takes effect" - That's a terrific looking poster. I have a copy of the Gallo book but its been years since I've looked at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 Some more examples: This is a de-motivational poster for American soldiers. There are even more explicit sex themed ones put out by the Japanese. Thanks for all the scans, AS. Does the book have any biographies of the artists or interviews with them discussing the work they produced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 I have several dozen WWII era posters, mostly warning soldiers about VD, etc. I can photograph some, if there's any interest. Here's an old photo recycled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...