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wurstisart

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  1. On 6/17/2022 at 9:38 AM, wurstisart said:

    I was tempted to bid but then to me something is off with that cover and I did not research it enough before bidding.

    Why has it only Perez on the cover and not the inker?

    Maybe I am too cautious and should have bid. Who knows.

    Anyone any intel on this?

  2. On 6/17/2022 at 12:40 AM, Brian Peck said:

    What does everyone think of the Wonder Woman Annual #2 Perez cover going for $11,400. Ya just the figures and the lasso but it is similar to the iconic WW #1 George did.

    I was tempted to bid but then to me something is off with that cover and I did not research it enough before bidding.

    Why has it only Perez on the cover and not the inker?

    Maybe I am too cautious and should have bid. Who knows.

  3. On 5/19/2022 at 4:49 PM, Bronty said:

    There is no set FM/LV process on these four covers or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    Perhaps what you're asking is why the color and the ink are all on one board with #1 and possibly #4 and why the ink and the color are on separate boards for 2 and 3.

    To beat a dead horse further, 2 and 3 have black line drawings for the figures, not just a silhouette.      We'd have to ask Frank to know for sure, but Frank may have wanted to keep his line art separate on 2 and 3, or there might have been printing related concerns in terms of muddying up the image.   I'm guessing the former since pieces like Neal Adams' Savage Tales covers, which are drawings that were colored in directly on the original, reproduced fine.    With 1 and 4 there really isn't much of his line art for him to worry about, and frankly, it improves the original a lot to have the color and the ink on the same board.    (If the color and the figure were on separate boards, this piece wouldn't present well).   [ In addition, it is not a given that they wanted to work at the same scale on covers 2 and 3 (although they may well have - I haven't seen the color on 2 and 3 to comment)].

    That being said, its probably as simple as Frank inked in the silhouettes and then handed them to Lynn to paint on, mostly because he probably didn't give a mess about trying to keep the silhouette art separate from the color.

    Thank you for your reply.

    I am sure more and more information regarding this will come up. It is all over in the news. My post simply started by being curious about exactly what your saying, or guessing as we all are. Thanks again.

  4. On 5/19/2022 at 4:21 PM, Bronty said:

    No one is attacking you.   

    They are different processes with different results.    If you are trying for a specific result, you are going to use a specific process.

    I am laughing while I am typing this and I am REALLY NOT feeling being attacked at all. All good. Really.

    To me the question is still unanswered but everyone is correct with what they are saying.
    So why is it that in this instance it was done over the original pencil and inks vs. over a copy, like on all the other DKR cover?
    Both processes are for the FM/LV combo the same thing? So no comparison to other specific results using a specific process.

    I am not comparing it to other cover coloring processes, but to the FM/LV process.
     

  5. On 5/18/2022 at 11:23 PM, Bronty said:

    With all due respect, I don't think you do get it.    The published cover wouldn't look the way it looks if they colored it the way comics are usually colored.

    If you did this cover comic book style, you'd see black lines around the lightning branches to separate the white from the blue and you wouldn't have the same degree of smooth color gradations on the background.    

    I am pretty sure I get it, but your explanation does not apply to my question or comment at all, but please let us not start a heated discussion, that was and is not my intention. Simply put, why was only this cover colored over the pencil and ink version?

    The explanation was not given yet and we all probably don’t have the answer, unless we say, we don’t know.
    And here is why, at least in my view.

    So who colored the DKR 1 cover - directly over the original pencil and ink version - from Frank Miller ? Lynn Varley.
    So who colored DKR 2 and DKR 3 for example - however not directly over the original pencil and ink version - but a copy or similar ? Lynn Varley.

    The point is she could have colored it over a copy as well, just as she did for other pieces.
    She would have or was handed the same starting point/piece of art whether it would have been over a copy or the original.

    But for this one it was done, as we know, differently because it was over the pencil and ink version. 

    I totally dig that this is both, the original and colored piece and am just wondering. 

     

     

  6. Interesting. Thanks for your explanation.

    I guess the part that still does not make sense to me is that the other covers were also colored after the fact,

    Just like every piece of comic art.

    The other DKR cover however were not colored over the original inks. In the end it is the same thing, I get it.

    So to me it is still unclear why this was done over the pencils / inked piece.

    Knowing that this wanted look is usually done afterwards anyways - why deciding doing this one over the inked piece.

    I am not questioning the authenticity of this legendary piece.

  7. Just added this Wolverine Cover 2 by Esad Ribic to my CAF.
    Was looking for an older cover by him, there are so many details in his earlier work and for me this was a perfect example.
    Also, I totally feel for poor Logan, he just wanted to read a book, drink a cold beverage and relax.
    And as it is a Monday morning, I thought it fits :bigsmile:.

    https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1816279

  8. Interesting post and I would love to learn more about it.

    So the first example you post, the pencil piece supposed to be the final piece for the cover - but there are differences if you ask me. Or was it used as a draft to be then fine tuned digitally?
     
    The other piece, the interior DD, seems pretty identical to the published page, but then again the baton / rope or whatever you call it got added and the image is only a part of the complete page, was the rest done digital?
     
    I simply would like to know more about it. I like his work, but don’t have much knowledge about how he did that particular run.