Bomber-Bob

Right off the bat ? I answered your questions 5 times, count em. When your questions started repeatedly being on valuation I said you should do your own homework. You can look these prices up on E-Bay as easily as I can. I stand by my statement.

170 for a 9.8 NYX 4 is a decent price. The prices have been going down on this book recently and hovering around 200.00 . Looking at an asking price on a dealer's website is useless, useless, useless. Doesn't mean a thing. Only look at Sold prices. Anyway, I don't think you should continue using this thread to ascertain whether your purchases were fairly priced. Sorry but you need to do your own homework.

150 is about right . Not a great price but okay. It's puzzling why you are trying to ascertain a slabbed price by considering the slabbing costs in the equation. It does not work like that. The price is what the market says it is. Hard copy price guides are useless for slabs. You have to research many sources to ascertain FMV. Look at recent auction prices at the major auction houses. Do your homework, there is no one stop shopping.

I don't see that ????

Personally, I would never buy a book on E-Bay without a reference to grade. If you don't know how to grade, find someone local that you can trust and ask for assistance. Let's face it, the majority of your books may just be common drek. Go through your whole collection, book by book, and using E-Bay as a guide separate the good from the bad. Sell the bad in a lot to a local dealer or LCS. You won't get much but you didn't pay much either. It's simply too much effort to sell 2500 books individually on E-Bay. You are correct, when dealing with raw ungrade drek on E-Bay the complaints by buyers may overwhelm you. If the good batch is worthy, you may consider submitting the books to CGC. It's so much easier to sell graded books.

Well the married reference comes from the fact that two books were pieced together. Usually this happens when a cover from one book is married to the pages of another book. Less frequently, but I have seen it, is when the centerfold falls out, literally gone, and a centerfold from another book is used. Sometimes an ad page is cut out or a Marvel Stamp is cut out, so a page from another book is used to replace it. Happens sometimes on Hulk 181 . This is a bad flaw, frowned upon by the marketplace. The valuation of your Qualified 7.0 will be a fraction of a Universal 7.0 .

On the topic of the ongoing reputation of these two Boardies................ I have a gut feeling that if the seller was immediately notified of damage to the book, upon initial receipt by the buyer, the seller would have accepted a return. Personally, I would have no problem with buying from this seller. On the flip side, I don't know. I asked this before, when is a deal considered complete? The buyer not only praised the book but left kudos. As a seller this would indicate closure to me. I keep putting myself in the position of each, trying to understand the emotions. I'm sorry if this offends some, but I'm on the seller's side here.

I concur. The spine is ragged but the top edge is razor sharp, makes no sense. In fact, I think all three edges may be trimmed. Look at how bright the pages are on the right edge, especially visible on the BC scan. The edges of that paper should be dark. I would not buy this book.

I think stuff like that is better off staying raw. What's the point of slabbing it ? The Green Label has a stigma to it, no matter what the reason. Even if you have COA's people will still shy away.

Though I deleted it, I recall just recently getting an E-Mail from Paypal with a heads up on some changes. I thought it had something to do with making transfers quicker.

Not familiar with that book but sometimes it's easier just to buy the book already slabbed. The blemish you mention will probably NOT result in a 9.8 if you submitted.

Again, YES, you should consider the costs when deciding to grade. You also need to know, or have a good idea, of what the book will grade at. With Moderns, usually anything less than a 9.8 is not desirable. If you missed something and the book comes back with a poor grade, you will not recoup your costs. Your question on the 4.99 cover price in 9.8 is too general, it depends on the book. Look on E-Bay and see what your book is selling for, note I said selling for as in completed sales. Asking prices are worthless.

Yes but if there was impact inside the box, there should be evidence on the Backing Board. The backing board would also show a crease at the same location of the book. At this point, I don't know if the backing board has been examined. If the buyer had verified this when contacting the seller about the damage I think none of this discourse would have occurred.

I think the answer to all of your questions is Yes on all. Modern Tier, fill out the paperwork and send it in, you pay for return shipping.

Who gets the tax deduction ?

Totally agree on this comment. I am anxious to see where Joey's line of questions lead. Perhaps it will conclude the cause of the damage.

Joey, these are excellent questions. I see where you are going with this. If the book has any freedom of movement, even inside the mylar, a resulting dent can occur. Often without any obvious damage to the shipping box. Just a little room to slide is all it takes.

At this grade level, I don't think the detached centerfold will matter much. Just another flaw in the mix. However, it may be the deciding factor if the graders are thinking somewhere between two grades.

Presents nice but lots of cumulative flaws. No chunks missing, no chipping, no writing but some of those creases are very long. Not sure how the press will help here as most is color breaking. I'd say 3.5/4.0 .

Interesting, I think we all missed this fact. The seller did not offer a refund, he offered to buy the book back, not necessarily at the original purchase price.

BTW, I've noticed the Seller has stopped posting here lately ? I don't think there is any doubt neither party should be on the PL. Just interesting to discuss and possibly learn from these events for future reference.

Okay, so from the content of the PM's you are saying the Seller has accepted a return with promise of refund. Correct me if I am wrong but when I dispute a charge on my Credit Card, they issue a refund until the evidence is reviewed, at which point they may retract the refund. Cannot the same logic be applied here ?

Taken out of context, I concur. But the seller said he wanted to see the book to inspect the damage so he has to give his return address. If only the seller had clearly said, upon inspection, I will refund you but he didn't. So everyone reads it differently. I am just trying to imagine myself in the seller's situation. The more he thinks about it he reaches the conclusion NO, this is not right, the book was not damaged. Additionally, he gets notified that the buyer has contacted Paypal. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. I know I am reading between the lines but I sympathize with the seller. Sorry.

The fact that this was a PM exchange and probably not much more thought out than a verbal exchange I don't think it should be analyzed as a legal document. I see...... - This book is damaged, it's not an 8.5, I want a rebate. - I have to see it first. I would prefer to keep it rather than rebate.

Yes, I quoted the same two PM's, we agree on that ! I agree the narrative does not clearly spell out a conditional refund, but considering the seller's state of mind and his intent, I believe he wanted to see the book to render a decision.