-
When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.
Bomber-Bob
Member-
Posts
11,645 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Forums
CGC Journals
Gallery
Events
Store
Everything posted by Bomber-Bob
-
Wonder Woman official movie thread (6/23/17)
Bomber-Bob replied to Bosco685's topic in The Movie Forum
I was also a naysayer about casting Gal Gadot but I was wrong, she was great. However, I disagree with you on Chris Pine and the chemistry. I didn't see or feel any chemistry. -
To press or not to press
Bomber-Bob replied to dcmannn's topic in Comic Book Grading and Restoration Issues
This has always been a gray area, is the pressing service responsible for any damage that may occur from their services. That doesn't seem like adequate compensation ? -
What's new in your Silver Age collection this week
Bomber-Bob replied to Silver's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
Another Clink win, just tonight. I never had a copy of this book before though I always liked the cover. It used to be a pricey issue but it has cooled off. -
Please understand, historically, these pressing discussions can become pretty 'heated'. My desire to keep the thread on track was simply to keep the conversations civilized and avoid conflicts. I appreciate your civil responses and your examples turned out to be valuable, though as mentioned above, not in the way you intended. Regarding your presser, I am sorry but I still don't think he is doing a good job, adequate maybe, but not good. He has a press, knows how to turn it on, but his skill set appears to stop there. Thanks again for being a good sport about all this.
-
The 2017 ComicLink show 'em if you got 'em thread
Bomber-Bob replied to DavidTheDavid's topic in Comics General
Seemed like most books I was chasing went for insane prices. I 'settled' for these two tonight. Very happy. -
Got this in tonight's ComicLink auction. I think it's a cool book at a reasonable price. Don't see it too often.
-
What's new in your Silver Age collection this week
Bomber-Bob replied to Silver's topic in Silver Age Comic Books
I got this in tonight's ComicLink auction. Seemed like a reasonable price in light of most other books I was looking at. I love being a DC collector. -
I'm sorry but I don't think this was a good press job at all. This looks like a quick press, high heat, with no attention to detail at all. Those spine creases should have been spot pressed or minimally had another press applied a while later. I may be wrong but in the Before I see a smudge next to Batgirl's left knee. In the After, the smudge is 'gone' but appears to have been smeared and distributed resulting in a broader darkened area. Sorry but I would use a different presser in the future.
-
I'm not sure why you are showing us these pressing examples ? Some books will improve with pressing, so what ? The discussion, per the OP, was about detecting pressing, how can you tell if a book has been pressed ? BTW, not sure who is doing your pressing but all the after results look wavy to me.
-
Yes, I think we need clarity on this. I've been waiting 10 days now . I just re-entered it again. The message says a 'few' days. By definition a 'few' is 3 days. I always thought it was 5 days. In any case the message should be more accurate. This cert number is already owned by another user. The comic will be transferred to you in a few days unless the other person says they still own it.
-
I would think it depends on if this was a common flaw on most copies of this issue = does CGC see this often. In that case they are probably more lenient. I once submitted a SA book with a crease like this across the whole book. The rest of the book looked 9.2 but CGC gave it an 8.5 . Questions like this are difficult to answer because, basically, who can say for certainty unless you submit it.
-
I don't think I understand your comments. Are you defending the practice of spine realignment ? I realize that, according to the rules of restoration, it is 'legal' but I don't think it belongs in our hobby. The Avengers 1 was not an example of a spine roll flattened out. I remember seeing BC scans but I don't have them. I keep hearing that pages sticking out is 'normal' but not as exaggerated as this example.
-
For your first ever post you opened up a 5 year old thread to slam CGC ?
-
I don't think there is an easy way to cross reference the census. Maybe CGC has some search tools available to them. Assuming a 9.8 has no major flaw, what would the resto be covering up that would allow it to be a 9.8 ?. Even the slightest CT touch would be covering up something color breaking. If it exists, maybe a 9.8 with resto was graded when tape didn't count against the grade.
-
In all honesty, the book is in pretty rough shape. Probably in the 3.0 range as mentioned above. Assuming a blue label 3.0 the book would only be worth about 200.00 . If CGC found something wrong, detached staple, color touch, anything, it would be worth a lot less. IMO, it's not worth getting slabbed. Sorry.
-
I don't do the SS thing but as an observation wouldn't the best procedure be to get the second signature and then get it pressed and regraded ? Maybe I'm missing something but why would you even consider getting it pressed before the second signature ? There is always a chance the book can be damaged during the whole SS process. This is like taking a shower before a workout.
-
It looks like the exact same book, before and after the scan. I can see no visible improvements. IMO, the book looks great as a 3.0 but way overgraded as a 5.0 . IF this were in the PGM thread I would say 4.0 is about right. Sorry.
-
PGM - FANTASTIC FOUR 3 - NICE COPY!
Bomber-Bob replied to jsilverjanet's topic in Hey buddy, can you spare a grade?
You can't necessarily tell if a book has been trimmed by measuring it. The fact that the bottom edge is razor sharp is suspect. -
I would NOT press this book. Much too risky. That spine may tear apart.
-
The OP also has to realize that, unlike the Qualified grade, a Restored grade does not ignore the defects that are covered up by restoration. So, if the CT is covering up a crease, the crease is counted against the grade. In my personal experience, a restored book usually looks undergraded. BTW, a 9.8 with resto, hard to believe.
-
Yes, I think you are absolutely correct. BTW, I don't think you are moving the thread off target. IMO, making the public aware of bad pressing examples is beneficial. I just didn't want to see us turn the corner to a debate on pressing, per se. Pressing is here to stay, no debating that. And Quicksilver was correct, the bad press examples ultimately were given higher grades. For that, I am very disappointed in CGC. I would hope that today, with the tighter grading supposedly in place, these examples would not have resulted in higher grades.
-
The title and point of this thread is 'how do you tell if a book has been pressed'. Please don't try to turn this thread into a debate on pressing itself. That has been discussed ad nauseam.
-
PGM - FANTASTIC FOUR 3 - NICE COPY!
Bomber-Bob replied to jsilverjanet's topic in Hey buddy, can you spare a grade?
I suspect he hasn't purchased it yet and wants to get opinions on grade so he can make an offer. Smart strategy. If so, I am suspicious about the bottom edge also. It is indeed razor sharp. You usually can't tell if a book is trimmed by comparing it to another book. -
PGM - FANTASTIC FOUR 3 - NICE COPY!
Bomber-Bob replied to jsilverjanet's topic in Hey buddy, can you spare a grade?
Wow. Great looking book. I see a small tear or pre chip on the right edge. Depending on the severity of that, maybe 9.0 but probably 8.5 .