Bomber-Bob

I agree, this is excellent advise. I have personally seen grades lowered on a reholder. Sometimes it's a situation where the book gets damaged. Sometimes a press will revert. I think you are crazy to submit a 9.9 for reholder.

The Lion knows his stuff. He's one of the few ex CGC employees that is active on the Boards. He especially likes to help us with the tough questions. You can learn a lot by simply following his posts.

I agree, love the Old CGC labels. Unfortunately, seems like most are resubbing these. Not that there is anything wrong with that but soon these Old CGC labels will be near extinction. I also think some of these books, in old labels, are actually worth more if left alone.

I agree that 48 - 50 K is reasonable.

I think it depends on the severity of the rust on the staples. More often than not, in my experience, it seems to not be referenced on the notes.

Usually these Club threads are meant to show your books and discuss the love. Your reference to the book is not for sale but you would like to know if anyone is interested and what they would pay is an interesting twist. IMO, it's either for sale or it is not. Though I think your copy is very attractive I do think there is way too much chipping on the right edge. This 'flaw' is often frowned upon by collectors. Though CGC was generous with the grade, it just doesn't look like it's 6.0 worthy. But it's not for sale anyway, right .

I don't think these kind of Sales announcements are appropriate for this thread. It should be listed in a real Sales thread with prices. Sorry but those are Board Rules, not mine.

I sent you a PM to keep my medical condition somewhat private. Again, I only asked that you not drive me to argument, which you did anyway. Sorry but I will avoid you in the future.

I didn't call you out, I just asked that you oblige with my request to not drive me to argument. I also mentioned I am in ill health. I should be able to reply to a discussion without incurring your wrath.

Not too many years ago, grader notes were often completely missing, especially with lower tiers and Moderns. Over the years the strictness of the grading has waxed and waned. Look at the grades on many first generation labels, circa 2000 - 2003, and 9.8's were not often seen. Because of the introduction of pressing, we now see more 9.8's . One problem I have noticed is that sometimes the press will fade and what once was a 9.8 now have visible folds. The really good pressers know how to press and wait to see if the creases return. So, my point here is the submission may initially look good, 9.8 candidate, but if enough time has passed before actually getting graded, maybe not. RMA, please, as a favor to me, please don't reply to my comment with some analysis trying to show my comments are wrong. I am currently not in the best of health and don't feel like arguing with you. My comment is a personal observation from thousands of submissions. It's not a big deal, it's not a radical statement, it's just a comment. Please.

As far as getting rid of these marks, I'm not sure if this is in an older laber. If so, you can use some thin cardboard or paper to seperate the covers a bit and the 'rainbows' will disapper. SHow us a pic of the label. The new labels are tougher to work with. In any case, this is not really on the comic, just a visual effect.

True story, a couple years ago a comic dealer friend of mine bought a raw Golden Age comic collection. I helped him rebag and Board the comics. It turns out many of the books had mold. We both got sick within a day or two. It was terrible, almost scary, burning noses, etc. I had some kind of giant rash on half of my face. I don't think people realize how dangerous live mold is. You should not be around it. My advice is don't mess with trying to remove it. Get rid of the book. Sorry.

I agree, these are nasty looking stains that will greatly affect the grade. IMO, if there is even a chance this is mold, get rid of this book.

I have found that the Date Stamps are usually the day of the week that the comic was either delivered or put out for sale. In your case, Nov 9, 1968 is a Saturday. I don't think you will find a book dated on Saturday unless the owner stamped it.

It depends if the dent has broken color or not. It does look deep.

As with most situations, the decision to submit for grading depends on the estimated grades of the individual books. You are not giving us much to work on, like pics, so it is difficult to answer you.

Please understand that something like a printing error effects the grade differently depending on the grade of the rest of the booik. Also, CGC will not tell you grade without an actual submission. I do think the grade of this book will be affected but minimally.

+1 Good suggestion. Just to clarify, don't deslab the book before shipping. Generally, this is a dangerous thing to do. Send it, in the slab, to CCS for a pre-screen. You will get off much cheaper if the answer is no.

Joe, I would advise you study your grader notes on these books carefully. If you see something that a press or cleaning will eliminate or improve, then it's worth a try. If all of the flaws sound like they cannot be removed, then I would not waste money. Looking at the FF1 notes, the stains, tears , chipping, etc. cannot be improved. In fact, with a book with this many chips, it's possible to make the situation worse. Tears can get bigger, chips can be pulled, etc.

I don't think your question can be answered without seeing the book. It depends on the overall grade of the book, ignoring the staple problem. The higher the grade, the higher the effect on the grade. A 9.6 may become a 9.0 but a 5.0 may have little to no affect. If you bought this book raw, I would not be happy.

To be honest, due to the fact that the book was shipped media mail, it's a small amount, and it appears the seller did not do anything wrong, I would just let it go.

This book is otherwise gorgeaous and the corner crease is very small, almost tiny. I'm fine with tiny corner creases getting a 9.2. Size matters !!!!!

Personally, I would not want to own a book graded 9.2 with an obvious corner crease. During some eras of CGC grading, a book with a corner crease like this would have received an 8.5.

I agree with you but it seems like new collectors are now perfectly fine with owning and submitting lower grades. I'm sure CGC is fine with this = more submissions. Part of the problem is high grade has gotten so expensive. The lower grades have attracted more collectors. As long as the lower grade present well, why not submit them, collect them. Golden Age is currently in that category.

Yes, they did. No argument at all . IMO, CGC is very good at accepting responsibility.