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Y No, there's no offsetting. Let's look at some hypothetical math/orders: Store A: 50 Store B: 160 Store C: 40 Store D: 300 Store E: 1000 Store F: 250 Store G: 70 Store H: 140 Store I: 20 That should capture a reasonable profile of store sizes. Total copies: 2030. Total 1:100 covers based on orders: 17. You can see how the 1:100 ratio disconnects due to the smaller orders, and, no, the larger orders are not getting 3 extra copies to offset that. Right. In your plausible scenario, the count would only be off by 3. That's why I stated that there are *approximately* 2500 copies of the variant, after also factoring in international orders, there are perhaps more. Also, this book was very clearly over ordered so there is a very reasonable chance that many smaller stores ordered more than their usual numbers because of the hype. No. Not 3. Fifteen percent. So, right there, you can trim the overall number down from the 1:100 ratio by 15%. And, yes, I tried to skew the numbers to larger, to account for the hype. There are many #1s where smaller operations are probably only ordering 5-20 copies. I figured 20 was probably a rock bottom guess for this book, but I'll check with my LCS, who is in fact a smaller store volume wise.

Larry, are you reading this? Did the Phantom program qualify for 1:100 variants? Would a store variant of 3000 books get 30 1:100s based on their variant order?

No, there's no offsetting. Let's look at some hypothetical math/orders: Store A: 50 Store B: 160 Store C: 40 Store D: 300 Store E: 1000 Store F: 250 Store G: 70 Store H: 140 Store I: 20 That should capture a reasonable profile of store sizes. Total copies: 2030. Total 1:100 covers based on orders: 17. You can see how the 1:100 ratio disconnects due to the smaller orders, and, no, the larger orders are not getting 3 extra copies to offset that.

He's been treated fairly. His point has been vigorously opposed without any ad hominem attacks, to my recall.

It's 3000 minimum order for store/specialty variant covers, right? I can't recall what the final tally of store variants was...?

Just found out is low print as well, but didnt really look into how many copies, at least the cover is cool. A low print in terms of what? Its low printed compared to earlier in the series when the book was selling over 30k copies, but it had a significantly larger print run than the previous lows in the series. Periodically you see books like this. Last example I could give would be Batgirl 14 2010. Print run wasn't much different not a lot changed in the book, but it sells well and you wont find it much. It used to happen with Marvel's X crossovers as well. Story collectors bid up the lower print run titles in the crossover.

You won't again this year.

That Ellis stuff was great. I think you'll be in the majority there.

Pre-Unity Valiants were NOT bad comics. No way, no how. Writing, artwork, universe-building...all excellent. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. They were not my bag at all. I thought they were derivative & poorly written junk with mediocre, though classic style, art & just pretty boring in general. You'll be agreeing to disagree with lots of people who know the pre-Unity Valiant books. +1 Valiant garnered attention in the first place due to the quality of the early books.

No, he definitely didn't 'knock it out of the park'. The art was scratchy and poorly distinguishable at times, and the flow of the storytelling in the prison beating scene was disjointed. I'd say the art was average. Story was pretty good for a first issue. I'll definitely read the first arc at least.

I once owned that #2 CGC 10.0 Submitted by myself and eventually sold for $200+ about 5+ years ago on eBay. Not the sale I was hoping for, but if I recall correctly, the buyer was a HG collector that gobbled up many 9.9 and 10.0 books back then spending some mad money along the way. So I'm not sure that this book will see the light of day any time soon but I could be wrong. Was pastimperfekt the buyer?

Does that affect eyesight? You've seen his grading...?

I've never liked the whole baby cover thing. Obviously a lot of people do, however. Just isn't for me. Not for me, either.

I'm inclined to agree. FWIW, though, I hope it's Copycat. I'd like to see how the market sorts out all of the sorta/kinda appearances.

If you think 20 or 100 copies of a book means anything, you don't have a firm grasp on what print run numbers actually mean. It's the psychology of it.

Wouldn't X-force 20 (vol. 1) be a better comic to get? XF 19 only has 1 panel of Copycat called Vanessa. Or is this the old mis-direction? Get forumites to buy XF 19 while we secretly buy 30 copies of XF 20? Marvel says: First Appearance (in true form) X-Force #19 (1993); What Marvel says, or a CGC label says, or Overstreet says, is not necessarily how the market sees it.

That's enough to give Spider-Gwen a swelled head.

Mini-series. Sell. Think Helheim and The Black Beetle. I liked both, especially Helheim but the backlash against it being a mini was brutal. It just so happens that Joelle Jones was the artist for Helheim and Lady Killer. On another note, Ultimate Fallout and Civil War were minis and both are heating up right now. So the moral of the story is, buy minis that have a shot at being used for a movie. Yeah, there are exceptions. Overall, 'out of sight, out of mind' is a good rule of thumb. If the mini is legendary, like DKR, great. If there's a first app., or movie tie-in, great. If not, be careful.

eh, $5-10. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=action+comics+583&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc But there is demand for a Superman book which is hard to come by for Copper or newer. Can someone translate this post for me? Yeah: YOUR POST IS WRONG! How's that? Thanks for the reminder of why your sorry butt is on ignore. (thumbs u

eh, $5-10. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=action+comics+583&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc But there is demand for a Superman book which is hard to come by for Copper or newer. Can someone translate this post for me? Yeah: YOUR POST IS WRONG! How's that?

Mini-series. Sell. Think Helheim and The Black Beetle.

That's how it works around here.

No kidding. Instead of talking about comics, it's more important to some people where and how they get talked about.

There were two 2-parters, ROM 17/18 and 31/32.

+1 I liked his NM stuff. In the end, though, Rob was like a top prospect on your favorite sports team, who starts off hot. You think, wow, this guy is really good, he's gonna keep developing into the next big thing. Then, he doesn't, and you realize that early stuff was as good as it got. Think Kevin Maas, circa 1990.