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I like the new label excited about it wit the csg slab dissapponted about the subgrades but I heard a perfect 10 is gonna have subgrades of 10's across, i like the scale change too, However probably a good time to crack a few old csg slabs 😂

On 3/25/2022 at 1:18 PM, Jee Su Chang said:

I am curious with the new scale, when you reholder existing 9.5s, will they become 10s automatically since that is now Gem mint?

good question!!! a gem mint is a gem mint i would assume all 9.5's will be gem 10's 

On 3/22/2022 at 3:38 PM, PunsRTonsOfFun said:

I personally think it's ridiculous that people care so much about the slab label as it's the card that actually matters. PSA labels are boring, Beckett labels are ugly, and SGC labels are bland. However, your point about HGA is an excellent one and shouldn't be overlooked.

idk man ya spend a ton of money on card dont ya want it in a slab thats easy on the eyes, lots of csg collectors buy green refractors to match and even if it dont matter to you it might matter to someone your trying to sell to if ya sell a flip change could help ya sell a card, it is crazy tho that its peoples big gripe wit csg, csg flip is as good as any psa bright red doesnt match anything 

On 7/19/2021 at 10:18 AM, Yeahiwasder4dat said:

I wasn't expecting a ton, but still surprised at there being virtually none. I expected anything high end to be PSA/BGS/SGC. Considering that's a pretty big show for Atlanta I thought I'd see a lot more.

yeah at philly show i didnt see any, and when it comes to trading and most auctions its all psa and bgs, its gonna take a couple years but csg accomplished a ton in 1 year, the pop report, registry and they seemed to surpass HGA and close to or equal to SGC who has been grading sports cards since 1998, maybe I over stated but just to be compared to a 23 yr old company is pretty good. I think csg is on the right track hopefully they keep there prices the same to stay competetive because when psa opens bulk it will really put csg and even sgc to the test 

On 3/22/2022 at 5:46 PM, Chase Knight said:

I personally think the current label is great! I don't mind the green one bit and think the font they used seems way superior then what anyone else is using. I was at a card show and the rep did mention that they were working on a new flip label. So I guess that is what it is. There has to be concern that CSG is grading at a grade level that isn't consistent with the rest of the industry. Just look at the pop reports and compare to the other companies. A lot of people aren't going to to keep submitting if CSG's barrier to a 10 is way too tough. I personally think that this is CSG's biggest issue they need to address to ensure of their long term staying power. People will come around to the label. However, if the barrier to a 10 stays as strict as it is many pre-screeners and submitters are going to choose other grading companies to protect investments.

its not so much a barrier to a 10, a 9.5 is gem mint I think your saying the grading scale in general is the issue, Csg gem rates for moderns arent that much different to PSA slightly lower but nothing crazy, I guess the question is, Is a 9.5 gem mint going to be sustainable in the hobby? In 5 years will collectors pay the same for 9.5 gem as another companies 10 gem mint? Is the number 10 that important to the hobby? I think we can all agree a csg 10pristine or perfect will have no trouble with getting value but will the 9.5 gem grade work out for csg? I dont know man 😂 I think the sgc scale would have worked out better for csg, explaining to buyers the 9.5 is a gem is an uphill battle for csg sellers, I guess we will find out its a good scale for buyers looking for sharp cards but def not great for sellers/ flippers, The sgc scale with subs, csg prices and crystal clear slabs would probably be a homerun 🤷‍♂️ will see, I dig the green too 

On 5/25/2021 at 5:50 PM, Charles Finley said:

Has anyone cracked a CSG slab to send into PSA or vice versa?  It would be interesting to see the results other than speculating as discussed above. I have found that it’s going to be a tough hill to climb for CSG cards.  CSG cards are getting about 50-65% of PSA  values. One example is 2012 topps Heritage Mike Trout.  PSA 9 ranges and sells for 350-400+. CSG 9 was listed at $249 (significant discount to start) had almost 600 looks and 40+ watchers only to sell for $220.  I am hoping if all the previous posts are true, then eventually CSG cards are more comparable in value to PSA/Beckett. I have read all the various reasons for grading cards, my reason and I am sure most collectors/investors is to preserve/increase the value of the card (be it a 1990 Fleer Bo Jackson or a 1952 Mickey Mantle) I am hoping CSG makes some progress with a pop report and more CSG slabs hitting the market can only help.  Thoughts?

i seen a guy crack psa and sgc slabs and send to csg for vintage because he was tired of hearing csg was easy on vintage, results were csg were stricter or the same sometimes csg was 2 grades lower then psa but pretty on par with sgc only .5 less most of the time. Csg is not more leniant on vintage per his experiment ha 

On 3/11/2022 at 10:26 PM, mtmcomicbook said:

I’ve submitted around 500-600 cards through Csg that have come back, and I’m very happy with what came back. A lot of 10s and 9.5s.  I screen all cards for submission. I think the problem with a lot of people have is in the thinking that if you crack open a newer case or box, a very large percentage of the cards are just not going to be 10s. I remember cracking 6 or 7 hobby boxes of prizm 2020 football and the percentage of what I would submit was insanely low.  Paninis quality control is absolutely horrible. Between surface defects and off centering you would be lucky to get 10% worthy of submission.

stricter grading from csg, sgc and even psa grading stricter these days might help improve manufacturning and quality control because like ya said sometimes i think card making is getting worse especially panini and print lines in Select are bad 

On 3/14/2022 at 5:48 PM, JohnBurke said:

I honestly love the current labels. Green = sports. And they are super clean

i do to, green goes with most cards maybe a border to appeal to more collectors but i like the flip and slabs, im hoping they keep some green and dont totally change it the slab and flip is just starting to grow on the hobby

On 3/12/2022 at 3:12 PM, jwhauser said:

Some people think this is the new label color combination. Looks nice but just rumors as of now. 

yeah maybe slowly introducing the new colors seeing how people respond will see i personally dont mind the green a border would be nice tho 

On 2/9/2022 at 10:26 PM, Junk Wax Addict said:

I don’t have any input as for any potential label changes from CSG, but I don’t see any label change having an impact on card values.  A collector should be valuing a slabbed card on the card’s appearance and the faith that the grade of the card is accurate.  Anyone putting a significant value on the appearance of the label is misguided, that’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it!  As a side note, since CSG has the best cases, they should hold the most value if all those little details mean so much to the average collector.

check out my response in csg chat, under ask Csg, Flip change  there changing it 

On 2/23/2022 at 11:29 PM, Fredguy11:11 said:

I sent in 11 cards for economy turnaround 40 days.  CSG received them less than a week after I mailed them out. They received on them on Feb 22nd.  In submission tracking I had the gradesand a return shipping date to me of Feb 24th. As I write this it still 45 minutes until it is actually Feb 24th. My cards went through the entire CSG grading process in 24 hours. Someone is yanking my chain. That is not possible. In addition all the grades were significantly lower than expected. Can someone explain how the highest sub-graded Namath card got the lowest overall grade??? By far the allegedly best centered card by 2.5 full points and all other subs the same or close enough got a lower grade.  See below.  Am I nuckin futs or do I have an issue here? Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

 

you can only get a half a grade higher then your lowest subgrade! you do not divide and get the average, for example if you take a perfect card corners 10, edges 10, centering 10 but take a knife and carve and X onto the surface your not gonna get a 7!  your gonna get a 1 or a 2 because there is a big X carved into the surface doesnt matter that the rest of the card is perfect because no one wants to buy a csg 7 with a huge X carved into the surface!!! subgrades are a guide but gotta look at the card as whole 

On 12/13/2021 at 11:27 AM, ne1seenmykeys said:

What is this in reference to? Have you read somewhere that they are changing the label? 

I seen youtube vid guy said he went to a grader trade show thing and you ask the company reps questions, The rep for csg said they are def changing the flip they are using focus groups and its taking a little because they want to get it right. It could be in one month or in 6 monthes but its happening, Also said there could be a grading or scale change too I guess there rolling that around too, I doubt there gonna keep the green sounds like there going for a big change and hoping it will be a hit, will see, guy also said if ya have older slabs gonna have to send in to change the flip for a small fee.. 

On 2/17/2022 at 10:01 AM, PunsRTonsOfFun said:

First, don't get a 1/1 graded unless you can choose Gem Mint as a min grade or Authenticated if not Gem. A Gem grade will add value to a 1/1, any other grade will not in nearly all cases.

As for your question about value, there's no correct answer. A 1/1 card is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If the player is a nobody or even a minor star, the card isn't going to have much value despite being a 1/1. That's actually something that's been misconstrued in the of card breakers. Cards aren't valuable just because they're numbered. They still have to be the right player and even the right set. I cringe when I see breakers freaking out over a numbered card to 25 of some backup catcher. That card is basically a common.

 😂 agree i see these breakers jumping up and down screaming a name i never even heard of because its an orange 1 of 10 or whatever, all i can think is who's gonna spend superrefractor money on an unknown  mediocre player but whatever blows there head back 

On 3/9/2022 at 11:23 AM, becker800 said:

The booth numbers of every single company was on a directory or im guessing you could've just asked someone lol. They were there

i asked a few people they said graders havent been to this show for 2 years I said not onsite grading just submitting they said nah not anymore ha its cool post office is fine maybe ill see csg at the AC show in july 

On 2/22/2022 at 10:16 AM, Jeremy Autry said:

1) You have some valid points in that I did send lower end cards and mid range.   It was my first sub with a new company so wasn’t sending anything over $400.  At the turnaround times stated I didn’t send junk at the time.  With PSA, etc we knew they were backed up.  I don’t think getting cards delayed but 5-7 months from a new company was expected when they had time to prepare for it.   
 

2) I can assure you I’ve submitted ten of thousands of cards in the last 8 years.   I’m very understanding of bad and good grades.  I do clean and pre-screen most cards.  Most times I have done by someone who does for living.  However, if you send 50 base prizm rookies that’s surface has been wiped and weren’t already graded.  Most times 10 at least would 9.5.  To get 1 sounds odd.  ( and no I didn’t just send commons and base Prizms. This was bulk with no subs order as example.) My orders came back based on service at varying times.  My point was I think in trying to be most difficult grader they grade down newer stuff.  The 86 mid stars I sent for fleet basketball were graded similar to other companies.  
 

3) the resell is way down here.  Maybe it’s because most people don’t send big cards to CSG like me.  Maybe it’s early.  But it’s a fact 

4) I’m talking about a company.  The company that makes you pay 2 months in advance.  The company that’s changed turnaround and barely been grading and now were at like 6 months +.  Everyone is entitled to opinion and this is mine 

recently grader values are very card specific  there's been plenty of times csg got more value then psa or sgc and vica versa, psa 10 for modern basketball destroys a csg gem mint but a csg 6 wilt chamberlin rookie just sold for 1500 more then a psa 6 wilt chamberlin rookie, its catching on csg are tough graders especially for high value vintage but csg isnt great for flipping moderns right now, Gem rates for csg arent bad if you know how to screen your cards I seen multiple csg reveals wit 80-90%  gem rates just gotta be meticulous and have a good eye 

On 2/23/2022 at 3:57 PM, NEL88 said:

 

this set are tuff grades all black susceptable to surface issues and edge issues but if it does do well you got a real nice gem! goodluck 

On 2/10/2022 at 8:32 AM, cwall08 said:

This seems extremely stupid. What company providing a service doesn't prep before inspection? I worked NDE for over 17 years. This would be like asking the welder or the company I was inspecting welds for to do all my prep work for me. If CSG doesn't wipe, clean, prep, whatever description you want to use and just takes card from sleeve and holder to microscope that's horrible service!!!!

no company does, even if sgc claims to im sure its a quick once over but if you want best results you dont want to create extra work for the person grading your cards, i wouldnt take a chance sending cards to sgc with smudges n fingerprints all over theyll probably hit ya for surface just for being annoying and a lack of consideration. i know collectors who forgot to prep a few cards in there submission got crushed on grades, cracked there slabs buffed there cards with microfiber or papertowel and turned 6's into 9's or gems, thats how important it is!! my advice is to make the graders job as easy as possible, some put little post it tape on there penny sleeves to make it easier for the grader to pull the card out, it can mean the difference of a half a grade in your favor which can mean the difference of hundreds or even thousands of dollars with certain cards especially with companies like psa that dont do half point scales, i got a better example then a welder, wash your nuts before gettin your hooker! 

I couldnt find csg at the philly show, I probably should of checked this site for the booth number but i was expecting a booth with csg signs brought my prepped cards ended up spending my submission money on a another Trout rookie oh well post office will work 

On 2/4/2022 at 7:38 PM, TheRookieMonster said:

Wow, completely floored by this price. Anyone else have a card you sold too early on? 😩

Share yours below.

YES!! I just sold a fernando tatis jr toppstotal rc for 20$ psa 9 at the time that was the comps this week the same card going for 150-250$ raw 999$ in a psa 9 😂🤦‍♂️

On 1/18/2022 at 6:50 PM, Todd Carte said:

Is there a way, or will there be a way, to add all cards from a submission to the registry? I have several bulk submissions and it takes a lot of time to add 400 cards one at a time. Then I have to go back and check various cards periodically to see if they are eligible for sets. A notification when set slots become available for owned cards would be nice also.

a quick way to do it to save time if you got a smart phone take a picture of the QR on the back of the slab it will automatically take you to csg registry and set assuming that set exists, psa slabs do the same 

On 1/20/2022 at 6:12 PM, jsrva said:

the green refractors 💰🔥🔥🔥🔥

On 5/3/2021 at 1:20 PM, DHoey07 said:

Nothing from CSG yet....still waiting.  But I did get this back from PSA this weekend.  I have two Jordan's and a Duncan of the same at CSG right now.

 

 

awesome kobe metal 🔥

On 2/5/2022 at 10:38 AM, RKgant said:

Awesome details! Thanks! Looks like you deem it a function rather than error, which seems consistent with others in the industry.

good question got a few rough cut cards was reluctant on subbing, like this is as good as these cards get they arent made with smooth edges 

On 1/15/2022 at 6:13 PM, Game1001 said:

Hello everyone,

I also see the whitening on the corners of the Vladimir Guerrero Jr. card. I just didn’t expect it to lower the grade that much…I would’ve been fine with a 8.5 or higher personally. I now realize the importance of viewing the card in-depth before sending it in for grading. 

there great cards! an 8 still decent for a vlad auto really cool looking card, if you see things at first glance your lookin at least an 8 out the gate, getting hit on stuff ya cant see that good is really frustrating!! i would def get subs on auto's and nice cards like that but to each his own good luck going foward congrats on your slabs 

On 1/19/2022 at 11:15 AM, PunsRTonsOfFun said:

Same thing happened to my 1993 SP Derek Jeter. Teenage me had kept it pressed down in a screwdown and CSG understandably sent it back EV/Trimmed. Sent it to SGC and they actually graded it. Whatever technology CSG is using is ridiculously impressive and not something utilized by the other grading companies. As more collectors begin to understand that, CSG should (and probably will) gain a large following. Between their best in the industry slab and tough grading standards on condition and alteration, it's becoming pretty obvious CSG is step above the other grading companies right now. And eventually, that's going to matter more than the acronym on the slab label.

yeah its annoying when it happens to your card but in the overall scheme of things its playing it safe, any fakes, copies or altered cards dont have a chance at csg which is a great thing, with the printers scanner technology  and money in the hobby these days you can never be too safe its just security, if a customer is angry that his card wasnt trimmed a company can handle but slabbing a fake jordan rc can destroy a grading company especially a company new to sports card grading