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On 6/25/2024 at 12:09 AM, sfcityduck said:

Except the indicia on the first page of the interiors was changed as well. 

I know you meant inside front cover and not 1st page of interiors, but you may not understand how periodicals are generally printed. Individual pages are not printed separately, multiple pages are ganged up on a larger sheet. In the case of the cover, the sheet comes off the press similar to this:

That sheet is then flipped over (top to bottom) and run through the press again. This allows one setup that produces two completed "signatures". The bindery department will now take that sheet, trim it down to size, cut it in half horizontally, and fold it vertically.

So the print house created one more black plate that put both the circle and month on the front cover and the blackout line and additional text on the inside front cover in one shot. They could have added this plate without even taking the other 4 plates off the press.

Last edit: I've simplified this quite a bit. It's likely the covers were printed 8-up, so imagine that image with another side-by-side, and the feed edge now becomes the left side instead of the top. And instead of flipping top-to-bottom, they flip the page left to right for the second run through the press.

On 6/24/2024 at 3:19 PM, sfcityduck said:

After reading a lot of debate on this subject, it seems clear to me that the Oct. copies are a first print and the Nov. copies are a second print using two additional plates (one for the change to the indicia that they all have and one for the blackout slug and "Nov." on the cover).

Second print implies the first print finished and a second was started. More likely the whole interior of the book was printed in one shot, and the cover was changed mid-run, as I said above. Moondog had the same idea back in 2011:

On 6/22/2024 at 10:33 AM, HighRadArt said:

Isn't Doom supposed to have a high IQ?  Why has Iron Man refined his armor a bazillion times and Doom has the same look?

Doom recognizes the value of a brand

Another possibility is the interiors were printed first, and the covers last. It dawned on someone that complete production of the book with an October cover date could not be done on time. Maybe a distributor shut-off window or something?

Instead, they collated and bound as many copies with an October cover date as they had printed covers (80,000?), shipped them out, then added the overprint to the cover for the remaining books of the run. This might have let them have a rolling distribution of November copies. If the book was as popular as it seemed (with the Oct printing selling out quickly), they could ship parts of the run as they were completed.

Edit to add: In case it's not clear, because of time constraints, they would be looking to avoid creating an entirely new black plate. They would continue to use the Oct black plate, with an additional slug plate added to fix the Oct error

On 6/4/2024 at 8:58 PM, shadroch said:

I checked and didn't see any message from them about when the book was sold.  I get messages when I get an offer, but I don't see any from that week. 

I don't get any emails about consigned items except when the payment is issued. I need to manually check for any offers or sales. This last go-around (about a week ago), I didn't even get a notification that my items were ready to be listed. The only way I knew is because I check for offers/sales every day.

On 6/4/2024 at 9:52 PM, Bronty said:

thanks for looking.

It's not in Manhunt 1, 3, 10, or 11 either.

It might be an original cover. The story in Trail Colt 1 has a fire in a building. No whippin' beekeeper, though

On 6/4/2024 at 12:43 PM, Stefan_W said:

Weird. I've always wondered how the price of grading can be kept so low given material costs, overhead, and staff salaries that get cut out before any profit is turned. 

Business plan is probably (((x number of books graded and shipped with mechanical error)*(high percentage not returned within 2 weeks))*(reholder fee))=$$$

On 5/18/2024 at 12:17 PM, scburdet said:

FYI, I already email the fraud alert. It's either the book, or someone used photos of it for this listing (i.e. a different scam)

For those who don't recognize it, the listing has all the hallmarks of an account takeover. Dozens of listings of (mostly) high-priced items that are unlike all previous sales, all with an offer to Buy It Now (although not actually a BIN item), al the item details filled with 'ANY'.

That seller doesn't have the book, and any buyer who tries to buy it off-site will 100% lose their money.

I worked in printing for about 20 years starting in the 90s. My suspicion here is due to the heavy black coverage on this cover, there were two black plates of varying screen percentages. It would be very hard to maintain that heavy black Spidey in the center on a single plate without starving the press of black ink below it (or, alternately, having too much black ink above it). You could do it with a double hit. I suspect one of the black plates did not have the proper knockout.

In this image, you can see a little of the white web knockout in the black; if it were a straight black overprint you wouldn't see any of it. So one black plate had the knockout and the other didn't. I also suspect if you look at this area with a loupe, you'd see the dot pattern on that partially covered web knockout.

On 3/12/2024 at 7:04 PM, Frisco Larson said:

Captain America 34 coverless, missing a lot of pages! There are 19 pages present, several outer wraps and the centerfold are gone and more. 3 pages have a face/head cut out of a panel and one page has a piece torn off. A lot of pages are loose, some have tears. There are a lot of cool pages and a great splash left. I took WAY more pictures than most would for a book in this price range, but I want you to know what you're getting and see that there's still a lot left. $25

 

On 2/24/2024 at 3:07 PM, Robot Man said:

Suspense #7 1951

Coverless with color copy front cover

Was $30. for a fat 52 page Atlas PCH book

Now $25.

I feel like I'm looking through the 'ripened fruit' section of the supermarket 

but anyway... 

On 2/24/2024 at 4:00 PM, Robot Man said:

Etta Kept #14 1949

Great GGA cover!

Centerfold out o/w complete 

$8.

Take

On 2/24/2024 at 3:20 PM, Robot Man said:

Lone Ranger 1939 large May Co Giveaway

Scarce and unusual Only one I've ever seen

This is complete but what a beater. Very fragile and brittle with chips out of the edges. Pages all split at spine.

$8. sold "as is" with no returns

Take

On 2/25/2024 at 1:27 PM, Robot Man said:

Master #7 1940 very early Fawcett

First regular size issue and first Bulletman

Coverless but complete otherwise. First wrap is split and detached. A bit fragile with some pieces out of last page. Fairly sound and very readable carefully. Comes with small cover copy. A complete copy is quite expensive.

$35.

Take

On 2/25/2024 at 1:51 PM, Robot Man said:

Vault of Horror #36

Craig, Davis, Krigstein and Ingals!

Coverless but does have back cover. Color copy of front cover provided. A sound copy otherwise.

$35.

Take

On 2/24/2024 at 1:26 AM, fifties said:

SUSPENSE 22 (THE BLOOD BROTHERS), MYSTIC 11 (DEATH AND TOMMY NORTON), MYSTIC 12 (THE HOODED HORROR), $19 EACH OR ALL THREE FOR $50.00.

all three coverless Atlas, please

On 2/22/2024 at 8:24 PM, Robot Man said:

This one is a real tragedy. Almost didn't post it but these are so hard to come by in any condition...

More Fun #95 1944

Coverless with a color copy cover of the beater I upgraded to...This one is fragile and brittle with all pages split at the spine. On the bright side, it is complete otherwise. Could probably be read VERY carefully. I love this title but have just been priced out every time I bump into even a low grade copy.

So how about $25. as is (with no returns)?

It's not Vertigo, but I always considered Piranha Press as its sister imprint. Beautiful Stories for Ugly Children was top notch!

On 2/2/2024 at 11:44 AM, gunsmokin said:

Human Torch 10 coverless and 1st wrap detached. Also missing two centerfolds. $100

as per PM

On 6/3/2023 at 3:59 PM, scburdet said:

File this in my "going down a rabbit hole & then finding someone actually has one for sale" collection. Not a ton of information out there, but this fanzine appears to be the first published work, or earliest published work that still exists, by Walt Simonson. A little information here: https://gobacktothepast.com/fabulous-find-abraxas-1-fanzine/ & Walt tweeted about this before, but I think misidentified it as a copy of "The Outsiders", a URI fanzine for which I can find no copies, scans or sells (the ebay link from >4 years ago is dead).

Resurrecting this older thread with some background info for you. Abraxas #1 is actually a reprint of Walt's first comic, which was indeed called The Outsiders. The inside front cover of your magazine is a modified version of the original's back cover, which is where it's identified as The Outsiders. The first issue was published in 1971, the second in 1972. Abraxas #1 was published between the two issues. The original comics are much smaller than Abraxas, something like 6"x9".

Source: I have both comics, and I was also friends with the writer, Gerry Boudreau, who also did work for DC, Gold Key, and Warren in the 70s.

I also have a mimeographed promotional flyer Rickey Shanklin created for the magazine.

On 1/5/2024 at 1:56 PM, Brian Peck said:

I remember a collector, who would offer comic art to people but he didn't own the artwork. It would be up on a dealer's site or in a private collection. HE would "sell" it get the money, pay the real owner then send the artwork to the buyer and pocket the profits.

Both are scums.

Isn't this exactly what comic dealers do if they accept wantlists? If I send [dealer] my wantlist, and there's a high value book on the list, [dealer] is going to find [owner], mark the price up and offer it to me. If I agree to the price, I pay [dealer], who then pays [owner]. [Owner] ships the book to [dealer], [dealer] ships the book to me.

I'm paying [dealer] to do the legwork that I didn't want to or couldn't do myself. There's nothing scummy about that.

Got a nice stack of bronze horror from Alex. Spot-on grading and impeccable packaging. Fantastic transaction!