Mr Sneeze

Hard to imagine any big budgets going ahead for comicbook movies. 

OMG! This is so beautiful!

Nevermind

Finally got a chance to get out and see this and Holy ****! This is an incredible movie! Incredible! I don't want to say too much to spoil anything but if you like film then this is a must see no matter if your versed in Godzilla lore or not. 10/10

The score is amazing, f-ing fantastic. Love the reprisal of the original theme!

I had said in an earlier post that I hoped it could be as good as Shin Godzilla by Hideaki Anno (Evangellion creator and another 10/10 for me) and it is every bit as good. I don't mean to invite comparisons as they are both their own thing. Good for Toho studios. I hope strong word of mouth keeps this in theaters longer. A lot of people at the showing I went to this evening.

On 12/5/2023 at 11:06 AM, Chip Cataldo said:

Please don't get this thread locked, guys.

Chip, have you been reading any of the new books after Hickmans run. I think it’s Slott writing?

If so, any thoughts about it?

On 12/4/2023 at 3:05 PM, VintageComics said:

On 12/4/2023 at 1:48 PM, Mr Sneeze said:

Well, you’re definitely beating something.

It's so fun! 

Indeed! However, I was referring to your dead horse.

On 12/3/2023 at 6:24 PM, VintageComics said:

On 11/30/2023 at 8:55 AM, Mr Sneeze said:

They don’t care about these characters, they are just using them to fill a suit, like Johnny Bravo in the Brady Bunch.

 

On 11/30/2023 at 12:09 PM, jsilverjanet said:

Disney casting choices seem like they are already throwing money to fix the problem and that never works out

Well, you two are now starting to see what I've been talking about. 

Disney cares NOTHING about the art form. It's just catering for dollars

For the record, If I agreed with you, I am to be taken immediately for shock treatment and to the nearest available Volleyball camp.

On 12/3/2023 at 6:54 PM, VintageComics said:

Nobody is tired of this drum beating. 

But everyone is tired of me explaining why it's beating this way. 

Well, you’re definitely beating something.

Just for fun… sorry about the orientation, I’ll try to fix it later 

On 12/2/2023 at 8:56 AM, Amazeron said:

The whole point of the book is a cautionary tale about the lengths we’ll go for science. We are willing to destroy things to create.

I would take issue here in that Victor has to live with what he has created in that his over reaching pride or hubris created something that will haunt him for what time is left of his life. Shelley added the Promethean sub-title did she not - and there is undeniable horror in that fate - and I would add Icarus as well. We see a modern take in the recent Oppenheimer movie. There is no denying the science in either we can see both chained to that stone and the horror it entails.

On 12/2/2023 at 8:56 AM, Amazeron said:

In addition, you can’t expect the first book in a genre to incorporate EVERYTHING relating to science fiction. That’s like saying The Phantom isn’t the first superhero because he doesn’t have powers or a dead girlfriend. If Mary was a man this argument wouldn’t exist. It is simply history being altered in which a woman can’t win. In fact, one of the earliest novels in history (regarded by many as the first strictly fictional novel) was The Tale of Genji, written by a woman, Murasaki Shikibu.

I didn't realize this was about men vs women or giving a woman credit for the first SF novel. Shelley wins, hands down. Frankenstein is easily SF but you yourself know this only limits the potential of the text. The great thing about this book are the endless ways you can interpret it.

Putting constraints on Frankenstein to win a beauty/urinating contest is a disservice to the brilliant book that it is.

On 12/1/2023 at 1:36 PM, media_junkie said:

Yeah but then again the Incredibles is animated so it looks way smoother and also our brains could be more forgiving.  Like we know animated characters can do all kinds of stuff and we just accept it because it isn't real.  Put a real person stretching and while it may look good (which honestly up to now it hasn't) we may still reject it some what because we know humans don't do that and our brains just tell us it is wrong.

For example, the Human Torch on screen works because even though he is on fire his body still looks human, no 20 foot long goofy arms.  The Thing we can process because we see him as a "monster" and thus our brains are like, "ok he can look like anything".  The Hulk, shape and movement of a human (big human but still human).  I bet you if they dropped stretchy powers on a "monster" like the Super-Skrull we would accept it better because we wouldn't have to "disbelieve" so much.

Great post!

Maybe they will reinterpret how his stretching works to make it more believable. It is a tough one. 

On 12/1/2023 at 11:59 AM, paperheart said:

why would Netflix buy into a terrible business that's been in secular decline for 80 years and only survives by bilking customers for $9 tubs of popcorn & $8 for 10 cents worth of sugar water? Netflix's biz model seems to be working as far as Wall Street is concerned.

Of course they wouldn’t. I just don‘t want theatres to go away.

Sounds like your getting a combo $3 cheaper than me.

On 11/30/2023 at 10:41 PM, jsilverjanet said:

Well the blame should be on the studios for making the content - they could easily divert the money elsewhere 

not the movies/directors/actors/writers/etc

I really wish the big studios would support art house fare but when have big studios ever done anything more than imitation. 
 

Then we have Netflix who will only run a film for a one week limited release to qualify for awards. Seems their business model is to not support theatres. I would have happily seen a few of their original movies in a theatre had I been given a chance. At least they’re giving out a few bucks, maybe someone can convince Netflix to buy AMC.

I don’t blame anyone at all. But if I’m an artist and funds aren’t there anymore then maybe I have to rethink how to continue to be creative and be happy in a changing landscape. People have to deal with that all the time.

Fosters problems with the industry aren’t going away as CBMs fade. It is not a genre problem.

On 11/30/2023 at 4:54 PM, media_junkie said:

That is my biggest concern, I just don't know how you do stretchy powers without looking goofy.

In 20+ years of CBMs, we rarely see it - stretching - and when we do, it sucks. But then look at the Incredibles.

On 11/30/2023 at 8:37 PM, Dr. Balls said:

Agreed. Every actor and director who pipes up about it - they've made a film that I truly enjoy. Trying to rub my d\ck in the dirt because I'm a comic book movie fan is petty.

Yeah, I imagine it never ages well to come across as snobby. They should have written that lesson down in green, so they could go ahead and shut up about it.

Any movie in any genre has the potential for greatness.

The movie making landscape has changed a lot and continues to change. Money had dried up for many movies that would have been green lit in the past which had frustrated a lot of directors who then turn on CBMs as an easy scapegoat.

He‘s facing 

If ever there was an argument to animate the FF it has to be the reality of Reeds stretching. Plus, it could be way cooler than anything live action could ever do.

On 11/30/2023 at 1:42 PM, Bosco685 said:

Jerk Reed. Saturday Night Fever style.

You know, I lost a lot of respect for the Academy Awards when they let this gem slip past the special effects appreciation department.

On 11/30/2023 at 1:01 PM, jimjum12 said:

Is it really the FF, or is it possibly us who have become irrelevant? I'd better get off my soapbox before someone throws a tomato at me. GOD BLESS... 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

My wife will have a good laugh at the thought that I was ever relevant! 

I’ve always liked the ambiguity of the image.

On 11/30/2023 at 2:56 AM, jimjum12 said:

On 11/21/2023 at 9:41 PM, Mr Sneeze said:

Sue Storm as she is in the Byrne run would be awesome. That, I would happily pay to see.

Sue must be more than just a serving of cheesecake, but her strength must not be typical or gratuitous, and I think we'll lose Disney at gratuitous. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

Yeah, when I wrote that I was thinking how sad it is that a producer completely misses how powerful Sue is by thinking they need to change the Surfer into a woman to represent a strong female. It shows a lack of understanding of the source material and it breaks my heart. They don’t care about these characters, they are just using them to fill a suit, like Johnny Bravo in the Brady Bunch.

The heart of the FF is family, 4 equals; Reeds guilt towards Ben, Sue, Johnny and the curse of what happened to them. They all carry baggage and Victor is also wrapped up in it. They could easily write compelling new stories that don’t fall in the same old superhero tropes. 

But they will likely make a movie that will vindicate everyone who ever said the FF are irrelevant.

I hope I’m wrong, my consolation is all the great stories on my shelf.

How important is genre classification?

Is Frankenstein science fiction? Yes.

Is Frankenstein horror? Yes.

Where would I traditionally have found it in a bookstore? Probably in the Literature or Classics section. So in any practical sense, I don’t care how someone classifies it as long as I can find it.

Hard to think of any story lying completely in a single genre.

1984, Brave New World, We, Fahrenheit 451 all can be seen as sci-fi but you won’t find them in that section.