JadeGiant

upping the ante

Thanks Josh, well played! I thought you might have gone with this one (which is not an example of what I am looking for BTW):

Loved these growing up and would love to track one down. I saw a Sal Buscema on eBay a couple years ago and just missed it ... been looking every since with no luck. I am specifically looking for an ad with the Hulk. Please feel free to let me know if you have one for sale or even that I could take a look at if not for sale. Thanks in advance! - Dave

Bob McLeod's zipatone wall is impressive, but it cannot contain the savage strength of the Hulk! http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1362015

Maybe their new marketing campaign will help

Great topic – love zipatone. I was entranced by zipatone when I started reading comics. I wanted to be a comic artist (as most of us probably) and always studied the art carefully. I had no idea about zipatone and thought that the artists were actually doing the shading by hand. It was both fascinating and demoralizing as I could obviously never duplicate the technique myself. Layton used it a lot in his early part of the Iron Man run with Romita Jr.

Does Pedigree also sell board games?

GLWTS!

Great post. I don't think it is incongruous to anything I've said - we agree a lot on some points, and just have different degrees of agreement on others, as will the broad spectrum of participants in the hobby. Also agree. I have been reading and just now posted but have thoroughly enjoyed the exchanges in this thread.

This notion of compressed story telling vs decompressed story telling is a bit lost on me. I hardly even consider it a “thing” to be honest. I suppose you can’t deny there was more packed into an issue when comics were consumed monthly, but times change. Formats change, Comics are consumed differently. Does it have to be compressed vs decompressed debate? Can’t it just be different? That’s how I see it at least. Have I lamented about stories taking longer to develop in the modern era? Sure, but that is because I am enjoying the story and want more and want it now. Another issue comes out next month and I will wait. Or, I just move to TPB and collected editions and read them straight through. The enjoyment of reading the comics is still there if the story is well done … doesn’t matter if it takes a 2 issue arc or 8. And if I enjoyed a story, I am interested in the art. While my preference would be that art was still produced like it was in my heyday, I will buy pages from stories I enjoyed – no word balloons needed. When I see the page, I remember the story so I don’t necessarily need word balloons to read it again (I’ll just break out the comic when that is the case). For me, the nature of how the story was written/developed has absolutely zero to do with my collecting experience. I either enjoyed the story and want pages or I didn’t. Not to mention the random page I see and buy purely for the aesthetic merit of the art – obviously no word balloons needed there. I think the notion of modern OA being spoon is also silly. It’s different, that’s it. There has been drek art since art was a thing – that is not changing with modern art.

First time voter. Went through a category and reviewed all pieces. Do I have to go to the vote section and remember which 5 pieces I liked the best? Am I missing an easier way to vote?

Stay focused on favorite artists (S Buscema, Keown, Pelletier, Ed McG, Pagulayan, Trimpe, Weeks, Deodato, McFarlane, etc.) Pick up a couple/few new pieces for my Larkin homage gallery Would love to track down a nice silver age twice up page

Welcome to the hobby!

This is my perspective as well. I plan to view every piece of every Lowry in the hopes I will discover some new artists and collections for review. Really looking forward to it.

Taking all you said into account and what Brian Peck suggested. earlier. Could you be happy to keep the top piece you have and get rid of the rest? This question goea out to everyone reading this. I imagine there is a number I could scale down to and be happy with my collection. If that were a single piece I feel I would miss the ones gone more than I might enjoy the one remaining as it might be a constant reminder of all that was gone. I really don't know how I would handle this ...

couldn't agree more Dom, I also have a very deep attachment to my collection which goes far beyond monetary value. It might be time to pull the portfolios and flip through them tonight after reading this thread

This. I actually used to think about this periodically as my collection grew. As a big Hulk collector, there were always other collections based on the character that I liked a lot and I wondered if I would trade collections if offered. I always decided that I would not, even when my collection was probably inferior from a value perspective.

This sounds like a game show: Deal or No Deal: Comic Art This is an easy no for me, for a few reasons: I don’t know what my collection is worth so I don’t know what I would be looking at in terms of a singular page equivalent. Before I read the FMV boundary my immediate thought was for the Kirby cover to Hulk #1 but other than that, I don’t have anything that comes to mind. I agree with Doc about the sum of my collection being greater than its parts in terms of value. Eric and Gene said it very well also. So a straight value for value deal would make no sense for me. The collection that I have amassed is very personal to me and while I will surely sell/trade some of it off at some time I look at it as much more than just a stack of paper. I feel more like a Hulk art museum curator than a collector. If the FMV limitation was removed it would still be very hard. At that point value and possible life style change would have to become part of the equation. As much as I hate to admit it, a 7 figure piece of art in exchange for my collection would be a game changer for sure. Since this is not going to happen, the answer is still an easy no deal.

Agreed I enjoy hearing from all collectors. Old school, new school, etc.

WOOT! Congrats!

First year in a while not digging into the sale. I am almost positive Spencer has things I want but there is sooooo much that has broken links, images not coming up, images not ever loaded, please inquire pieces, etc. that I decided it wasn't worth the headache. Plus, I just didn't feel like digging out a bunch of issues from the long boxes to see what the pages listed actually look like. This site is in desperate need of some help.

I wondered about that as well but just figured it was not a feature supported within the Lowry listing. For this reason I added a link to the original CAF listing within the description (plus that is where you see the full description and any additional pictures, comments, etc.).

First time participant in the Lowry. I think I have done everything right. Feel free to have a stroll and let me know if anything looks amiss. http://www.comicartfans.com/mylowry.asp?gsub=1186 Sal Buscema Hulk splash for issue 228 http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1362015 Chris Stevens variant cover to The Fallen issue #1 http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1359007 Commission from Alan Davis and Mark Farmer http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1345459 Opening splash from Infinity Crusade issue #5 by Ron Lim and Al Milgrom http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1291356 Hulk comic strip by Larry Lieber and Joe Sinnott http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1305321

I really related to Scott’s aesthetic-first point when listening to the podcast. It’s not an either-or discussion IMO, it is both and more heavily weighted in one direction or another depending on the collector. For myself (and most I would presume), nostalgia is what got us in this game and will always be intertwined into motivation for buying. I fell in love with comics and then had to buy a lot of them… and then toys/figures … then statues and memorabilia … and now art. As a big fan of the Hulk, even brand new art pieces are, at the core, nostalgia driven for my love of the character whose roots come from my childhood and thus very nostalgic. But the aesthetic is also at the core for me and equally (at least) important as I am a very visual person. I struggle to read through a good story (even a really good one) if it doesn’t appeal to me artistically but I can read pure dreck if the art is amazing. For this reason I can buy a great looking piece of art even if I have no clue where it came from. If the aesthetic is appealing enough I will buy on that alone. Even at my peak nostalgic period when Sal Buscema was drawing the Hulk, I don’t have nearly as great appreciation for comics drawn by a fill in artist that I didn’t appreciate. It doesn’t feel as nostalgic but it is really just that I don’t like the art. Sorry for the ramble on … back to podcast talk.

Another great podcast – I thoroughly enjoyed listening (even until 1:30 in the morning when I had to go back to work today for the first time in more than 2 weeks). I am fascinated to hear the artist collector and often wonder why more artists don’t collect art. I also enjoyed Scott sentiment about collecting after retirement. This rings very true to me as that is how I think about things as well. If you look at art collecting from the investment lens as your primary filter, I suppose that cashing out is part of the equation all along. But I think there is a very large portion of collectors that do it primarily for enjoyment and don’t want to just say goodbye to the art after they retire and effectively remove an extremely enjoyable part of their lives from their daily routine. Personally, I am sure I will shave my collection down and make sure my collection is well catalogued for my heirs to do as they deem appropriate but I have to think there is a good chance that I will still be enjoying a good bit if it until the end. Plus, I hope that my son develops and interest and I can pass it to him and his sisters.