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I have a long list of characters which should have stayed dead, and for which the Marvel administrators in charge at the respective times lost their decency. By memory, Satana is one, not to mention Norman Osborn. Gwen has not been trashed, but maybe this "Gwen–frigging–thing" is almost as bad…

You mean that my English somewhat sucks? That might be, given I write without checking much on the web. If you mean whether I "think" in language when writing, the answer is "partially yes": I try to think in English when writing in English, but I think it is also important to think in your native language at the same time: language is not perfect and it helps to lay better ground for a well-thought discussion, as culturally speaking how we write is strictly related to how we think (and to our cultural knowledge and background).

This has a lot to do with Hegel. As paradigmatic as Deadpool might seem, there is always the risk of incosistency and unlikeliness around the corner. I am not saying it’s not a good character, mind you, but he is also more pretentious than it might seem at first, when you see he’s so "easygoing". It would definitely be good to discuss him in the Silver and Bronze sections.

Um… Not since the beginning – he’s not really defined in New Mutants #98. In fact, it would have been a lot better if Bob Harras and Marvel did not let happen what it happened but… oh, well. But they gave him character afterwards, that is undeniable, otherwise no one would be looking for NM#98 or early X-Force… True. Wasn't until the late 90's Deadpool was defined (and continued to evolve). Regardless, he was a head of his time, and it took hime a very long time to find broad acceptance. Some people still have difficulty accepting him as a real character. What you say it’s very interesting, it also gives a hint on how Deadpool relates to the way Marvel changed, and made questionable choices about their poetics. It would be interesting to use it as a starting point for a broader discussion about the character and Marvel itself. I was referring to Bob Harras' (and Marvel's) decisions (and questionable behavior towards Louise Simonson and possibly Claremont) at the time: they trashed a good and innovative series like the New Mutants was, and Deadpool happened to appear there first, but it wasn’t obviously a defined character. I see Deadpool in the lineage of characters like the original furry Beast, the Foolkiller, Howard the Duck, Omega the Unknown, the late She-Hulk, Power Pack and a few others: most were characters truly ahead of their time, and not always have been developed, or if developed, not properly.

The Gwatcher will fix all of this mess. That and the mess they made with "Original Sin"…

Shad, why do you think it was reported? Maybe it was just a moderator that considered it a "mystery box" despite the fact there was no "lottery" element to it. :shrug:

Yes, incredibly it seems Matt misses the italian one… I think I bought it for Liam at the time, however…

Um… Not since the beginning – he’s not really defined in New Mutants #98. In fact, it would have been a lot better if Bob Harras and Marvel did not let happen what it happened but… oh, well. But they gave him character afterwards, that is undeniable, otherwise no one would be looking for NM#98 or early X-Force…

Aww… You must have been very saddened.

Dang! I want this one (I am not familiar with all the magazines containing Marvel universe stories, and Morbius is my favorite, together with Satana).

It has probably a lot to do with the nature of the character. Deadpool struggled to find an identity as a character (and surely New Mutants #98 is not representative of that identity) but when he did he came to life. I used to dislike what he represented to my eyes, but then I looked better and realized that he is emblematic of what Marvel has done in recent times, in context. And I am saying this for the good and for the bad: what I criticize Marvel for, it’s definitely not Deadpool. Deadpool is a quite nice character, and I place it more or less in the league of Howard the Duck and She-Hulk*. At crossroads between phenomenon, satire and a proper classic Marvel age character: he won’t be "scraped off" from history, IMO. *Well, the late She-Hulk, when she started to become more ironic and self-assured, after the absurd Byrne series (which I did not like). The Fantastic Four (and after) She-Hulk, that is.

I kept just a handful of italian issues, but I am already missing this one… Besides the lovely color scheme, which I almost like better than the original (but the original is always the original!) it’s such a nice copy…

That Spanish one which you did not know looks like a Panini book, and thus it is a modern spanish reprint. The original first edition looks to be the Forum one that marmat was trying to find for you.

We’re waiting for a Preacher fan here in the Fantastic Four appreciation thread…

I also love the handwritten arrival dates, when they are neatly done. They really give a lively sense of the period, and if the book is fresh it really gives you the impression of a "time machine", more than if it was a "clean" book.

Perfectly centered, and I’m still missing this one as well!

Ah, I have bought the whole run of "Il settimanale de L’Uomo Ragno" at newsstands when they came out… My formal Marvel age education refined itself there…

But that’s precisely the problem. As good as they may be, these are Bendis' own stories, following his own poetics. The Marvel age no longer has anything to do with this, especially after Civil War. And Miller’s Daredevil, albeit twenty years before, presented in germ the very same problems. As much as one likes it, Miller's Daredevil in its essence is already a departure from the Marvel age and its poetics.

Who the heck is "donmeca2020"? No one should be allowed to molest kav…

Yes, of course I am assuming there aren’t much additional defects compared to what you can see in the scan. That is why it’s always important to offer a description aside from the scans here in the PGM forum.

It seems to me they have been harsh. I was probably optimistic in giving the book a FN, but to me it’s at least a VGFN. :shrug:

I would just love to have one of these Gibi with a Cap or Human Torch story…

That is just great. Would love to have it…