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I thought Power Records books were considered comic books? They are listed in my Oversteet Price Guide along with the other comic books. I wasn't aware of a controversy about that. It's interesting. Do others feel the Power Records books are not comic books? CGC considers them comics http://www.cgccomics.com/census/issues_bytitle.asp?title=Power+Record+Comics&publisher=D%2EC%2E+Comics CGC grades them. That doesn't make them comics. It calls them comics ... I can call you a cotton-headed ninnymuggins. That doesn't make you one.

An illustrated booklet created by DC Comics, Inc. not a comic book?

Curious indeed, who exactly did you hear from? And is the emphasis theirs? or yours? hm

I thought Power Records books were considered comic books? They are listed in my Oversteet Price Guide along with the other comic books. I wasn't aware of a controversy about that. It's interesting. Do others feel the Power Records books are not comic books? CGC considers them comics http://www.cgccomics.com/census/issues_bytitle.asp?title=Power+Record+Comics&publisher=D%2EC%2E+Comics CGC grades them. That doesn't make them comics. On that note, nor does it not make them comics. Well, that is certainly true. And realistically, no matter what someone puts up as a reason why it is not a comic book, you can find an example to shoot it down. I just use Justice Stewart's analysis - "I know it when I see it." I agree (which is the analysis I applied.) Or perhaps Groucho is a better authority, "If it quacks like a duck . . ."

I thought Power Records books were considered comic books? They are listed in my Oversteet Price Guide along with the other comic books. I wasn't aware of a controversy about that. It's interesting. Do others feel the Power Records books are not comic books? CGC considers them comics http://www.cgccomics.com/census/issues_bytitle.asp?title=Power+Record+Comics&publisher=D%2EC%2E+Comics CGC grades them. That doesn't make them comics. On that note, nor does it not make them comics.

A thread, "of, by and for" Canadians???

Well, once again, according to the U.S. Copyright Office, it appears that BA12 is the winner by a week: Type of Work: Serial Title: The Batman Adventures. Serial Publication Year: 1993 Description: print material. Frequency: Monthly. Publication History: [No.] 1, Oct. 1992- Copyright Claimant: DC Comics, Inc. Issues Registered: no. 5, Feb93. Created 1992; Pub. 1993-01-05; Reg. 1993-02-17; TX0003486207 no. 6, Mar93. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-02-02; Reg. 1993-02-17; TX0003483195 no. 7, Apr93. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-03-02; Reg. 1993-04-22; TX0003532246 no. 8, May93. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-04-06; Reg. 1993-04-22; TX0003531853 no. 9, Jun93. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-05-11; Reg. 1993-05-18; TX0003545466 no. 10, Jul93. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-06-01; Reg. 1993-06-21; TX0003576687 no. 11, Aug93. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-07-06; Reg. 1993-08-04; TX0003597968 no. 12, Sep93. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-08-03; Reg. 1993-10-27; TX0003661101 no. 13, Oct93. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-09-07; Reg. 1993-10-27; TX0003662680 no. 14, Nov93. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-10-05; Reg. 1993-11-12; TX0003675201 no. 15, Dec93. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-11-02; Reg. 1994-01-24; TX0003726425 no. 16, Jan94. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-12-07; Reg. 1994-01-27; TX0003740611 no. Feb94, special. Created 1993; Pub. 1993-12-14; Reg. 1994-01-24; TX0003726427 Basis of Claim: New matter: additions. Names: DC Comics, Inc.

For those of you who don't frequent the Modern Forum: First appearance of Harley?

Wish I had two . . . not in this one for the money, since like I said I paid cover way back when, just like knowing what is and what isn't, that's all. I think it's pretty cool, as is BA12 or most things with Harley, Understood, but I would submit the open copy to CGC if I were you . . . create the conundrum

Wish I had two . . .

Need I highlight this small amount of text?

From the U.S. Copyright Office records: Type of Work: Sound Recording and Text Registration Number / Date: SR0000180351 / 1993-08-16 Application Title: Tale ’n’ tape : no. 14376. Title: Almost got ’im! Description: Sound cassette + ill. booklet. Series: Batman, the animated series Notes: Based on animated television series. Copyright Claimant: © ℗ DC Comics, Inc. (employer for hire) Date of Creation: 1993 Date of Publication: 1993-08-10 Basis of Claim: New Matter: text; artwork; recording. Names: DC Comics, Inc.

After reading the entire thread, and considering the evidence (and the relatively biased and non-biased opinions of our brethren) , you can put me in both the "comic book" and "first appearance" camp. Clearly, it qualifies as both. Sorry, BA 12 worshipers . . .

Good point, Carl

As you should . . . Personally? I think the Mad Love book is a better value at present . . .

If that . . .

The sky is falling!

Coming on two days without a post in this thread . . . is the hype over already?

This is absolutely correct, a child could pop them open now. Even though it's the inner well that really matters. The labels are no longer "fused" in either. Methinks there needs to be some better QC, especially in Magazines. HBD btw,

I can see this happening within 6 months . . .

Then why did you bring it up, and why are you having this discussion???

Nothing whatsoever. Your graphs were spot on. He must just like quoting

Ninjak was cancelled?!?!

or not, this is just plain stoopid In your opinion, anyway. -slym Dang! I better take all of my XF1s out of the sealed bags right away!

The print runs weren't that low on the early issues, but compared to the books out at the time (X-Men #1 and such) it seemed that way. The rarest non-variant pre-Unity book is Rai #3 with a claimed total print run of ~28,000 with Rai #4 being next with claims of ~30,000 printed. It has been argued those numbers are low by about 5-7000, but even 35,000 is relatively low. The print runs on the last issues that made it to the end of the Voyager Entertainment-based VALIANT run are smaller than the early ones, many with less than 10K I believe. Check out Greg Holland (valiantman's) site, it has a comprehensive price guide and well-researched print runs - http://www.valiantfan.com/valiant/guide.asp -slym Beat me too it. Magnus Robot Fighter 64 14,000 Solar, Man of the Atom 60 14,000 X-O Manowar 68 15,000 Bloodshot 51 9,000 It appears the Bloodshot final issues did dip below the 10K mark. These numbers are actually higher than the current Valiant's numbers for most of their titles, at least for the month of September. There is no reason not to grab these anytime you see them and they do show up in dollar bins: Last few issues of, magnus, eternal warrior, solar, turok, harbinger, bloodshot and x-o Rai 33 Shadowman 43 I don't know about the print runs for last issues of Hard Corps or Ninjak? There are a lot of newsstands too and they are rare as f**k. So are any of the 2.50 cover price variants ( visitor vs the valiant universe ) etc. Against the advice of even Greg himself, I continue to assemble my box of Valiants