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HBO just dropped the trailer for Season 3.

2 minutes ago, MYNAMEISLEGION said:

not a good comparison, very different properties- there aren't any GoT action figures, cartoons, and video games- and they did wait a decade didn't they? And only after Lucas sold SW to Disney and they trotted out the original cast did they move forward. Now that Disney has fumbled a bit with SW, they too have scaled back, and they have much deeper pockets. Let's see how HBO subs drop in the next month, HBO is sure going to be watching that metric very closely.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire_video_games

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As of October 2018, seven video games based on the A Song of Ice and Fire novels and Game of Thrones series have been released, with an eighth forthcoming. A sequel to a previously released game has been canceled. The following table showcases the correspondent title, release date, publisher, developer and the platforms on which each game was released along with any other relevant information.

13 minutes ago, Flaming_Telepath said:

Drogon knew exactly what he was doing and it was a fairly easy concept. His mother had been consumed by the need to sit this throne and it had taken her life, therefore it was the real killer.

It's not a particularly nuanced concept to understand and given the emotional intelligence of the dragons, easy to see why Drogon did what he did.

It seems to me (again) that the problem isn't with what was necessarily done but rather it's not what certain people's personal preference was.

Having entirely rejected his heritage, why would Jon suddenly embrace it and start commanding dragons? That would surely be one of those 180 degree turns that apparently have been cropping up all over the place?

How did Jon entirely reject his heritage? Pretty sure he was the one riding Rhaegal.  

3 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

Sometimes you have to avoid the trap of 'What if crickets had shotguns - would birds still try to eat them' questioning. It can drive you to drink.

In this case:

1) Dragons are more intelligence than men.

2) They served only due to the Targaryens having some magical control over them (did the books explain how?).

3) Drogon heard enough of Dany talking about her being the rightful heir to the Iron Throne enough times, this came to symbolize all that they had endured together.

4) Now that Dany was gone (is she though?), Drogon wanted the throne gone out of defiance for his losses.

 

From Nate Scott of USA Today:

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This is quite possibly the smartest dragon in the world, as it inherently understood that it was the corrupting power of the Iron Throne that led to Dany’s downfall, and not Jon Snow.

Or it’s the stupidest dragon in the world, as it saw a knife in Dany and assumed it was the evil chair made of knives who stabbed her, and then had its revenge. TAKE THAT, KNIFEY CHAIR. MY QUEEN, YOU HAVE BEEN AVENGED.

1 hour ago, fantastic_four said:

Why exactly did Drogon burn the throne?  I get that he was upset about Dany's death, but I didn't get why he focused his fire right on the throne and as soon as it melted he stopped.  Was it incidental and he didn't realize what was in front of him, or was it intentional?

And why the heck didn't he gobble Jon up in one bite?  Are we to assume it's just because he's Targaryen?  Targaryen or not, he just killed his "mom."  I had no idea why he didn't focus his rage on Jon but instead pointed away from him and at the throne.  

1 hour ago, Bosco685 said:

I think with Drogon melting down the throne, it was symbolism for all the deaths and pain suffered to finally sit upon that seat. Including his brothers dead for it. So with Dany gone, he wanted nobody to have it.

I think with Jon, it came down to the Targaryen loyalty. No matter how much he wanted to roast him on the spot. He didn't have to obey him. But he couldn't kill him.

34 minutes ago, marvelcollector said:

I think Drogon just recognized that Dany's obsession with the the throne was her downfall. He blamed the throne, and the Seven Kingdoms for her corruption, and not Jon for killing her. 

Dragons are supposed to be very intelligent, and understand humans. Tyrion mentioned this when he freed them earlier.

This is why I think in the moment, they really should have had Jon lean into his father's bloodline, stand there and face down Drogon with the authority of a Targaryen king and say "dracarys" while pointing at the throne.  I think it would have made more sense than having Jon stare at Drogon and then cower down hoping not to get burnt to a crisp.  It would have given the audience a glimpse at his potential as king, even if he didn't want it, while showing that he was truly willing to break the wheel by not only stopping Daenarys, but also by ridding them of that accursed throne.  

59 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

I thought that was a good ending. With plenty of room for follow-up specials.

 I can live with it, but to quote Jon Snow “It doesn’t feel right”.

Fingers crossed that we eventually see the books.

My biggest issue: 

Exclusive Game of Thrones Storyboards Reveal Gruesome Plan for Army of the Dead

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The show-runners evidently considered including not only Karsi, but also Kristian Nairn’s Hodor and more to pepper the Army of the Dead. But audiences were spared that pain, just as they were spared watching any of the show’s heroes having to fight the reanimated corpses of Lyanna Mormont (Bella Ramsey), Dolorous Edd (Ben Crompton), and other fallen fighters at the Battle of Winterfell.

22 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

We don't know when the real Mandarin and the Ten Rings will actually show up in the Marvel Cinematic Universe

https://lrmonline.com/news/this-iron-man-villains-rumored-to-be-linked-to-shang-chi-film/

Sadly, 'Game of Thrones' never fixed its problem with women

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"Thrones" has long struggled to fully define the women who play its game. It's had trouble with the men, too (character consistency is one of the writers' biggest weaknesses), but heading into the final episode of the TV juggernaut, its mistreatment of the women who once made the series great might just be remembered as its original sin. 

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Had the series taken time to make Dany's descent to villainy a slow slide instead of an air drop from 50,000 feet, it would feel more earned and far less stereotypical. Women don't have to be virtuous heroes to be great characters. They just have to make sense. .

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The Cersei who destroyed the Sept of Baelor would have had an exit strategy from The Red Keep during Dany's siege. The Cersei who almost committed suicide to save herself and her son from failure at the Blackwater never would have cried about dying in her brother/lover's arms. The Cersei who killed Robert Baratheon with a well-placed flask of wine would never have been dense enough to think her Lannister soldiers were so loyal and strong they'd defeat a dragon.

40 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

You have to wonder what impact this may have on the planned prequels/spin-offs.  With this many people unhappy about the handling of the final season, will they be willing to give the new shows a chance?

And will Disney have second thoughts about handing D&D a Star Wars franchise?

5 hours ago, Skizz said:

I have a newbie question

I have a follow up to your question, why is Kelly LeBrock as Lisa from Weird Science riding a flying fish?

8 hours ago, followtheleader said:

That poor Whale has been stripped of virtually every part possible. 

Hopefully some in that red bag. 

Patrick

@followtheleader (Patrick) from what I can tell through my cursory glance through the boxes, the majority of parts are still there.  I'm just going to have to find the time to go through it all and remember how everything fits back together.

13 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

Episode 6 first official photo (I think with appropriate CGI applied - don't quote me).

  Scene looks kind of familiar.  I wonder if it will have the same result?

My three: 

1. All-New X-Men #5 - first appearance of Beast in his newest form

2. Uncanny X-Men #1 - This iconic image of Cyclops was used on the title page of every issue of Uncanny X-Men, Vol. 3, up to and including when it went back to the original numbering, Issue #600.

3.  Detective Comics #934 - "Rebith" launch - the first assembling of the team Batman put together including Batwoman, Red Robin, Spoiler, Clayface & Cassandra Cain (Orphan).

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2019/05/13/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-5-recap-and-review-the-battle-of-kings-landing/

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I loved this episode and I hated it.

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Sunday night's episode of Game of Thrones was . . . incredible. It's bound to be one of the most controversial episodes of television ever made. I loved it and hated it and I think it could have been the perfect culmination of everything this show ever set out to do, if only they'd earned it. If only HBO  had taken the time necessary to get to this insane moment of fire and blood.

How 'Game of Thrones' Episode 5 Could've Gotten It Right, and the Only Way It Can Go From Here

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On paper, it looks great to say Daenerys will become fueled by jealousy, just like her older brother Viserys became in season one when he saw the Dothraki idolizing his sister instead of himself. It looks great to say she’ll descend to “The Mad Queen” status much like her father. It looks great on paper to say Cersei and Jaime will die in the cells of the Red Keep, with the castle they fought and schemed for literally and metaphorically collapsing atop them. And it looks great on paper to say that, in the end, the real war won’t be between the living and the dead or between Daenerys and Cersei, but instead will be between aunt and nephew.

The problem is, each of these transformations of character weren’t given the time they deserve to occur naturally. We the viewers have spent almost 10 years with these characters, watching their slow and methodical development and transformations from what they were in season one to what they became at the end of season seven. 

Every change we saw in Jon and Dany and Jaime and Arya was motivated. It all made sense. They saw things, reacted to things and changed in a natural, human way. That was the beauty of this show: It married a fictional and magical world with true humanity that we all could relate to. But with 13 episodes left to tell one third of George R.R. Martin’s epic tale, it genuinely feels like the show lost touch with that humanity.

Time became the antagonist. Where the characters have ended up with one final episode left is fine. It’s believable on paper. However, in execution, it’s hard to believe that Daenerys would transform from liberator and hero to malicious murderer over the course of two episodes. It’s hard to believe that Jaime would be fueled to do what’s right in episode three of the final season, abandoning his evil sister to defend the living, and then go running back to her in episode four. It’s hard to believe that Varys, the most meticulous and schematic character on the show, would hear a rumor and then basically tell everyone that he was willing to commit treason. And it’s hard to believe that Cersei and Qyburn, who have been merciless from the start, wouldn’t have a plan in place to blow up the city with wildfire once the gates fell and all of the Northern army was in close proximity.

Move Over Coffee Cup. Fans Think Jaime Lannister Grows His Right Hand Back in This Game of Thrones Photo

Wow, Everyone Missed Varys Fully Trying to Poison Daenerys  

4 minutes ago, comix4fun said:

So, how many sheep will Drogon eat after breathing fire for, like, a half hour straight? 

 

How Game of Thrones Failed Jaime Lannister from Men's Health

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Why would Cersei still be the woman that Jaime loves? Yes, blood is always going to be thicker than water, but let’s consider all that’s happened. Even setting aside the fact that Jaime and Brienne clearly had something that the show should've, and did lean into, Bronn showed up to Winterfell last week, and if Cersei had her way, he would’ve shot a crossbow bolt right through Jaime’s face. Did everyone forget that this happened? Did Tyrion seriously live through this, and still suggest that his brother escape and live a life far away with his murderous, scheming sister? It seems like the showrunners might have completely forgotten that they wrote this branch storyline for Bronn.

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When Jaime left Cersei a season ago, following her double-crossing in the fight against the White Walkers, that should have meant something. Just as his desperate plea to join the North in the fight should have meant something; just as his choice to be the one to finally knight Brienne, and finally consummate his seasons-long simmering relationship with her should have meant something.

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It all rings a bit empty and sudden. It’s almost like someone, at some point, made a mandate—Jaime and Cersei have to die together, in one another’s arms—and Benioff and Weiss had to bend over backwards, undoing years of writing and development, to get those chess pieces into an endgame situation where that could happen.