the authority

On 11/16/2022 at 12:39 PM, Lazyboy said:

Those numbers mean nothing. They are absolutely worthless garbage.

On the general topic, both books are way overpriced. They're both derivative characters with limited (but not zero) upside at this point.

Where would we find more accurate numbers ? I’ll make corrections. 
 

As for the upside ? I heard this when Ultimate Fallout was $10, $20, and so on. Maybe they go up, maybe they go down. Everything in my collecion seems to be going down right now compared to last year, but up compared  to 5 years ago. Neither of us know which way they’ll head for certain.  I’d still like to hear opinions. Thanks for sharing yours. 👍
 

We can talk about a falling market until it isn’t anymore. This isn’t a question of whether or not it’s a good time to buy these books but which is the better bet going forward.   
 

Batman Beyond/Terry McGinnis is a fan favorite based on a TV series that ran from 1999 to 2001. A comic miniseries also started in 1999. 
According to Comicvine, Terry has 384 comic book appearances. He also had his first video game in 2000 which didn’t pan out so well overall.

Miles Morales/Ultimate Spider-Man  is also a fan fave. That said, popularity was slower in coming. He first appeared in comics in 2011. Miles has 1006  using Comicvine as our source.   His first big hit was a PlayStation video game. Then 2018  brought the breakout animated movie Spider-Man Into the Spider-verse. He’s also made various animated TV shows and appearances. He has another animated  movie coming out in 2023. 
 

Neither of these characters hit it big from comics though now, they both  have huge followings in that format and more.

Disney is pushing Miles into every potential format possible. It appears safe to say that he has the larger name recognition at this point in time.

What is to keep Warner Bros. from doing the same thing with Terry. He’s another interesting character with unlimited potential as far as storytelling goes. He’s been well received once, so why wouldn’t they pursue this in the future ? 
 

My opinion? Terry may never be as popular as Miles due to the enormous push from Disney for the latter. Still, it’s hard to imagine that there are 9 Miles collectors for every 1 person collecting Terry’s book. 
 

Here’s some food for thought. There are more than twice as many Ultimate Fallout #4 in 9.8 as there are Batman Beyond graded copies from 0.5 to 9.8 combined. 

What are their intangibles ? Which stories other than their first appearances matter or have potential ? Are there any better modern picks than these ? 

I really can’t decide but feeling like there might be reasons for both to have at least a chance to be the winner. 
 

Diclaimer: I still own 7 copies of CGC graded UF4 and 1 of Batman Beyond 4. 
 

Batman Beyond 1

9.8.  411

9.6.  451

9.4.  232

Total 1568 graded copies

Percentage of total graded

9.8   26.2

9.6.  28.8

9.4.   14.8

UF4

9.8.   3642

9.6.   4021

9.4.   2322

Total 14054 graded copies 

Percentage of total graded 

9.8.    25.9

9.6.    28.6

9.4.    16.5

On 10/24/2022 at 6:19 PM, 1Cool said:

Dealers saying they are not buying since prices are pretty much tanking except for a few book.  eBay sellers saying it’s the best buying opportunity in over a decade - anyone else feel like that sounds like a crash?

Could be.

2009 through 2102, maybe even 2013,  worked out well for buying and later selling too. It was slower but the only time that I remember what I’d call a crash would be the mid to late 90s. There was never a better time for buyers than then. 
 

Anecdotally, last year was the first year of the 2000s that selling comics accounted for over 10% of my income so I’m definitely more the collector than a retailer. It was a once in a lifetime kind of thing. That said, always been lucky and mostly stayed ahead of trends. Gut says buy. 

On 10/19/2022 at 3:31 PM, 1Cool said:

Here is the cold (ice cold facts:

2022 Total E-Bay Sales for the last 3 month were 40% of what they were in 2018/2019 and almost 20% of what they were in 2020/2021.  I went back 10 years and this year is by far the worst it has been.  Anyone else who has been selling for a while willing to look back and report how bad this year has been?

I’ve bought and sold a lot on ebay over the last 20 plus years. Bought and sold elsewhere for 40 plus. This has been one of the best times to buy that I can remember. 
 

It’s also a great time to buy collections. The last 2 years were great for flipping. This year, people are just dumping like prices will never go back up. They always go up over time though we do have periods like these that last a year…or three hahaha.

Bronze to Modern age books have been the best books to buy  imo. We have a plethora of people on all forms of social media and YouTube  suggesting Silver age is the only way to go. Maybe so but its a little more risky when everyone thinks the same way. I’ve always had much better results with the newer stuff. 
 

Enjoy the buying opportunities because nothing too good or too bad lasts too long. 

On 8/10/2022 at 9:57 PM, fastballspecial said:

That's because they are hiding over the uf4 fiasco 

No doubt about it. I’ve enjoyed  Whatnot up until this point. It’s fast moving and there are deals to be had there. I don’t believe I’ll let the few who disappointed everyone to change my opinion on the app. 

I’ve  purchased about 30 or so books there so far. Packages have arrived in a timely manner and all but 1 have been as described. It may not be for everyone but books are moving quickly there. Social media savvy people do have the advantage of more viewers right now but we can use this site too and we’re pretty good at selling ourselves. 

Once I figure out how to get eyes on my books, I’ll be listing thousands of books. At the moment, eBay seems off, Maybe it’s the economic conditions but I’ve been selling there for more than 20 years. Don’t recall it being this off in that period of time.

other than this, comic shows seem to be working well too. Unfortunately, work doesn’t allow me the time to hit those at present. 

So I have the day off and decided to check out Whatnot again. Things seem more like eBay today. Saw one guy bragging about 10 UF4 books at C2E2. Pretty tone deaf. 

They move a lot of lots on the site for decent prices but there aren’t nearly as many BIG sellers as I initially thought. Still going to try this site for selling but not nearly as excited as I was a week ago.

so what’s 🔥 

C2E2 exclusives bringing big money on Whatnot. ComicTom has over 500 people watching. I’m glad to see some fire somewhere because eBay is dead at the moment. 
 

I can see this way of selling growing significantly as the place brings the excitement. 

On 7/29/2022 at 5:56 PM, fastballspecial said:

Thats really it inventory turnover.

Why more people don't sell on here is mystifying to me. I sell 300 to 500 books in each sales thread easily.

Facebook sales do well too, but I have found payment is tougher as a failure rate is higher than ebay. 
What Not does well for people with time and large inventories. My local shop is selling quite a few books
on there especially books that have sat in his bins for years, but he complains their fees are almost right at ebay
levels now. So pick your poison there. 

I think everyone tends to forget summers are always slow. Many seem to think that the Covid Sales were
going to continue. You will never see that money again from comic sales in your lifetime in one year.

Slab selling alone really limits your customer base. I think we are past the days of just ebay along as seller
income.

Several long time sellers on here have great ideas I still learn stuff from them as well.

 

 

Just signed up as a seller on Whatnot. Plan on listing stuff after a little more study of sales patterns. So far, they seem somewhat inconsistent. After 21 years on eBay, selling is pretty simple. Have only invested 1 month buying on Whatnot. Still excited about it. Spent an hour last night watching Liefeld doing Deadpool sketches and selling old preliminaries. His stuff brought crazy money. It was a fun show. 

On 6/30/2022 at 8:01 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

@the authority awesome! Almost insta collection, beautiful grades as well! Lots of variety 

 

Thanks very much. Usually send in more consistently but sent a bunch at once this time. Pretty happy overall. One box was just completely off. 14 more were close give or take a few each direction. 😊

TATs were better than advertised when I sent the books in to CGC. Pretty pleased with the speed.

Grading however is inconsistent. Most Pre-Screen were in the 80-92% range which is typical for my old submissions. In one particular Modern Pre-screen lot of 25, only 11 passed screening while 15 were rejected. Yes, 26 answers on a 25 question test  How is this possible ? One book received both 9.8 and Reject  This isn't a valuable book but I liked the cover. I intended to make it a gift. Spoke with customer service and let them know whoever graded this lot needs more training or at the very least, a second set of eyes on their results. 

Customer service was Grade A as always.

Bought a couple of the most recent Black Panther #3. The covers were separated from the rest of the book. Ridiculously low quality paper. Very thin and it waffles/waves easily to boot.