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On 8/23/2021 at 12:34 PM, BrntWS6 said:
Modern slowtrack magazine received 3/15
Just went to grading /encapsulation a couple days ago.
7th month anniversary ... G/E/I a least a month ago. Imagine when CGC finally gears up to work on magazines they will do all with G/E/I status.1/22/21 .... MAGAZINE MODERN .... Grading/Encapsulation/Imaging -
On 7/15/2021 at 2:18 PM, jokiing said:
Magazine submission has been in "Grading/Incapsulation/Imaging" limbo for two weeks.... Yes, tiers do matter. No love for magazines.
Now five weeks in magazine "Grading/Incapsulation/Imaging" limbo... submitted 1/22/21...
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Magazine submission has been in "Grading/Incapsulation/Imaging" limbo for two weeks.... Yes, tiers do matter. No love for magazines.
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43 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:
Did you press? Cause maybe since I didnt they'll be here by my birthday in July Haha
Yes, but not through CCS, so the mag has been out of town for a while now...
You're thinking birthday 2021?
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1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:
Mine were received 3/17
That's a long wait!
Yes in deed.... I'm afraid leaves will start turning by the time you see that magazine.
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Finally.......... with current turn-around at 139 days I didn't know what to expect.1/22/21 Received1 MAGAZINE MODERN5/26/21 Scheduled for Grading
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22 hours ago, whetteon said:
Blip #1 - 1st Mario and Donkey Kong app. And it's a Marvel to boot. This has that cross genre feel for game collectors and comic fans.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124668127485?hash=item1d06cca8fd:g:A6sAAOSwIaFgavw1
I sold a CGC 9.8 in Dec 2020 for $435... went quickly. Looks like it's doubled since then.
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Despite my protests, book is being shipped back to me. Did I get a "blind" regrading or were the graders told that this book was graded a 9.8 and then asked their opinion? I agree that cracking this comic and resubmitting raw would not get me another "9.8". I carefully picked 18 out of 50 copies of this book to be submitted and am positive that this book was not torn.
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QuoteYour book was looked over by two other graders and they all agree the book matches the grade. Below is information they provided regarding this issue.This is a bindery chip, which would still be allowed in the 9.8 range. Since a bindery chip is something that occurs during manufacturing, we are more lenient when it comes to factoring into the final grade. And in this case, since a 9.8 has 2 higher grades above it, it can have a few minor defects, and this would be considered one of those allowable minor defects in 9.8.
Asked CGC for another opinion since I don't agree with their assessment and got this reply. Is that tear really a minor defect?
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I'm having a hard time agreeing with their assessment as well. I've seen small corner tears pass at a 9.8 but I have over 50 copies of this comic book and have yet to see this "bindery tear" on any of them. Hard to argue with a second grader's assessment. If that torn corner was originally there, I would not have chosen that copy to send in for grading, thinking there was no way to get a 9.8 or maybe not even a 9.6.... I guess CGC has proven me wrong...?
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Got an email from CGC regarding the "small chip" on the back cover.
QuoteAfter a grader reviewed the book, it was determined that it will still maintain its 9.8 grade. The chip is from a bindery tear which is common on marvel books from that era.
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No love for magazine submissions.1/22/211MAGAZINE MODERNReceived
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4 minutes ago, speedcake said:
This is what a couple hundred bucks gets you now
I wouldn't allow that into my house... imagine it reeks.
- speedcake and WolverineX
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2 minutes ago, Lightning55 said:
I'm sure it's not fair, and that's why people hate insurance companies. Insurance is rarely what people expect - it's a last resort. There are countless stories of auto losses, homeowner losses, personal injury losses, etc. with less than satisfactory outcomes. But we are being premature.
CGC is insured, but maybe they use the insurance for their larger claims, and just cover the smaller ones out of pocket. Otherwise, if they are constantly putting in claims, their rates skyrocket. So it will depend on your conversation with them.
Someone hit my car late last year and paid the auto body shop $1500 cash directly instead of going through their insurance, as it was cheaper than the penalties.
I had a book come back that was a 9.8 worth $800 but had a corner folded. I put it in at $200 DV, because as you said, I didn't know if it was going to be a 9.4, 9.6, 9.8 or whatever. We don't know - that's why we send them in to be graded. So technically, CGC was only on the hook for $200, at most. They could also decide it was only worth the raw replacement cost, whatever that would be, might be even less. I don't know how that would have worked out in the end, because they offered to correct the problem for me. And that was very nice of them, worked out ok, so all good after all.
I think you will have good luck with your call. They are reasonable people, and something definitely happened. I would be very surprised if they couldn't help you out.
Thanks.... Not giving up on them yet and I'm hoping that they will compensate fairly. I had a similar situation with a bent corner that they were able to fix, although the fix was damaged again when it was encased. Luckily, no damage from either fix so it worked out. And yes, the whole insurance thing is tricky....
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41 minutes ago, Lightning55 said:
The insurance aspect is a tough one. On the site, CGC says that your comics are insured for the DV while in their possession, and that if something happens to them, you would be reimbursed for the DV or the fair market value, whichever is lower. It's best that you get the straight story from customer service, but it wouldn't hurt to read up on it in the FAQ section. Just in case what you are told does not match up with what you read. Or maybe another boardie has some experience with it firsthand.
From what you're stating, CGC expects a DV the cover replacement cost based on their assessment two months after submission. So, if I submit books that I estimate to grade between 9.4 and 9.8 I would have to choose standard tier (if a 9.8 values over $200) and pay $65. for each submission instead of $20 Modern tier and hope for the best and if I miss something like a small tear behind a staple and end up with an even lower grade the cost of grading may out weigh the book's value. That doesn't seem fair at all if the damage was due to neglect.
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I've had to send back some high end books because of contaminates in the inner well.... got three on this submission to send back along with the damaged Wolverine.
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18 hours ago, Lightning55 said:
When we do a submission, we enter a DV (Declared Value). That is supposed to be the amount we believe it is worth, the amount that it is insured for while at CGC, and is included in the tier pricing. Seems like something happened to it there. Maybe you talk to CS about a claim.
Would I be correct in saying that declared value is based on the raw book with guesstimate of grade? Price difference between a 9.6 and 9.8 can be quite substantial, especially with some copper/modern books. Definitely contacting CGC about this.
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18 hours ago, William-James88 said:
So I am assuming it was not missing anything on the back when first submitted right?
Correct.... Summited 18 copies and had (3) 9.8, (3) 9.4 and rest 9.6
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Wolverine Limited #1 just back from CGC with a grade of 9.8 and a chunk taken out of the back top corner. CGC was able to fix a bent corner on a previous submission, but this isn't fixable. Four other books have excessive debris (what they call contaminates) on the inner holder.
Been too busy to contact CGC until this weekend. What to expect as a fix has me concerned.
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12/22/20214,200MODERNGrading / Quality Control
current turn around rates at CGC
in Comics General
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January... ? Did CGC happen to mention what year? My "received" 1/22/21 magazine continues to sit in G/E/I (limbo) for a good month now.