Jaydogrules

So.... just stay to get this straight.... Rotten Tomatoes, in a blatantly transparent attempt to "save" this movie, felt compelled to step in and completely change their "want to see" scores and algorithms because of the alleged "trolls" that were supposedly tanking this movie's early scores. Funny how alleged "score tanking trolls" never seemed to bother RT into such drastic action when the same thing was (allegedly) happening on suicide squad and justice league. They just lost whatever remaining credibility they had. -J.

Somehow I have a feeling the "critics" will absolutely Loooooove it. -J.

Hopefully to go a little (or a lot) darker on the sequel. Or maybe Fleischer just wanted a big raise. -J.

Wow that's sweet. Nice high grade too! Wish I had such things to "forget" about lol. -J.

Looks like a similar, also unpublished version sold on comiclink's exchange recently for $1400. http://comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch.asp%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3DDell%27otto%26GO2%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCA&id=1291377 It's actually quite difficult to even find published covers by him for sale anywhere on the secondary market (trust me, I tried for the longest!). -J.

Touché. -J.

That is a sweet copy. Should see big things from this book this year. -J.

Well whaddya know, something we actually agree on. -J.

Worldwide- HC- $880MM, WW- $821MM -J.

And it was well played. -J.

Wait what? No assumptions at all. A factually accurate statement. Homecoming grossed more than Wonder Woman worldwide. You only like parsing things down further to the benefit of movies that you personally like. And when I do the same thing to movies you like you always want to talk about wonder woman vs homecoming again for some reason lol. -J.

*yawn* Let me save everyone the trouble of reading all this jibber jabber and just say what this dude is blabbering on about in one word: "Variants". Oddly I knew that would be the case even without reading it. *yawn* -J.

Agreed. -J.

You will have to do one of those comparison charts with Aquaman and Civil War when the former becomes available. -J.

Yeah yeah we all know you put your finger on the scales (or take it off) from time to time. -J.

I did a quick analysis on how it is pretty deep in the red in the actual thread for that movie that actually included the bloated market budget (and WRONG, marketing is a pre-release expenditure, and as you correctly pointed out, often exceeds the production budget, that something else might "offset" it later is what's irrelevant, an expense is an expense is an expense). Head over there and revisit that if you feel like it. The cost of movies does not end at the production budget, as you just agreed. It's still not rocket science. -J.

Boscos charts are interesting but they are hardly gospel or even tell a complete picture of a film's actual budget/profitability, and are often wholly inaccurate. That you are using it as some kind of authoritative source is ridiculous. Not only did Spider-verse flop relative to every other Spider-Man movie, it flopped compared to other cartoons released THIS YEAR. Nothing you said actually disputes anything in my post (which was all factual), in fact you seem to agree with it. I don't care about the typical Scott Mendelson "here's-why-this-movie-that-isn't-really-a-success-is-a-success" talking points. It did not make money (theatrically). Should have been a redbox rental on a fraction of the budget. -J.

Ah you got me. Everything about this movie looks like hot garbage because Captain Marvel books are out of my price range. -J.

Green Book won an Oscar too. I don't know anybody who cares about Oscar winning cartoons (though for the record this is the fourth lowest grossing winner of all time). Spider-verse flamed out at the box office. Didn't make Grinch money. Didn't even make Ralph 2 money. Barely made LEGO Batman money on a larger budget, and that was considered a disappointment too. Lowest grossing "Spider-man" movie by HALF. Complete disinterest from the international market. Overblown marketing budget guaranteed movie enters home video market deep in the red. Needs massive performance there to just break even. Should have been a video release on one-third the budget in the first place. -J.

It's safe to say they the theatrical success of Black Panther took EVERYONE by surprised. Spider-verse, on the other hand, has not exactly been a box office bonanza. In fact, it has under-performed relative to all the accolades. I personally have no interest in this CM movie because it is nothing but a cheap narrative ret-con in the MCU for the sole purpose of shoehorning this character in at the 11th hour. I don't like that. That essentially makes this movie completely disposable. But not in the same way the pointless Ant-man and Wasp movie was disposable. CM is disposable in a borderline intelligence- insulting way that repels me from it even more so than the terribly overrated, and absolutely charmless Brie Larson who they have clearly miscast in the role (I agree with @jsilverjanet up above, his comments on her performance in Room are spot on, you should definitely give it a watch if you are ever in the mood to watch a solid hour of unprovoked hysterical yelling, crying and over acting, which takes up more than half the film). While I expect Disney to certainly make a technically proficient film, and there will obviously be a built in audience of people who go to see it simply because they have seen every other Marvel movie, I personally wouldn't be surprised if it hit Doctor Strange numbers. CM is no Wonder Woman. -J.

I would kick BB 28 off that list (I know, DC is sorely under represented as it is) and put Avengers 1 on there now. -J.

FF 1 had a great summer but seems to have stabilized for now. I'm sticking with ToS #39 for now. Avengers 1 is looking strong early this year too though. -J.

Damn dude. Very nice. -J.

Who can say? Maybe something to do with the RDJ's swan song (?) in the Avengers movies. Prices on the book have been setting records the last couple months, particularly in low/mid grades where the majority of collectors like to play. -J.

A few years ago it was Hulk 1 then SC 4 then AF 15, last year was FF 1 and X men 1. Early signs pointing to Tales of Suspense 39 this year. -J.