ygogolak

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This is amazing

This one shows some promise. It was already in development in Oct. last year, now there is a writer attached.

http://tbivision.com/news/2013/10/comic-books-firm-idw-moves-into-tv-with-v-wars/166022/

I don't know if there is one but if 497 had a DC Universe UPC printing then it would be worth buying.

I don't think it did.

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6248998

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Is it a 1st or 2nd print?

The comparison is not between a comic book and an ipad. The comparison is "types of demand." Apple doesn't raise their prices because there's interest. Like I said earlier, the analogy doesn't quite fit, but it's close enough for gov't work.

 

And you just fell victim to the same argument you decried earlier: "they make a second print because of demand"...that demand isn't for the book as a collectible, it's as a new comic book. Whether there is demand years later for it as a collectible is not the same type of demand, which I conceded was what made the analogy not quite fit.

 

So, comic books are good?

So, with the Lobo movie being axed I guess it's back into the junk bins again for those Omega Men books

 

Link?

http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/04/28/could-shazam-movie-be-dwayne-the-rock-johnsons-secret-dc-project/

Nothing confirms that it was axed there, just speculation.

http://badassdigest.com/2014/03/25/the-rock-pretty-much-admits-hes-going-to-play-lobo/

 

I don't think any of your logic works.

 

 

I agree, the analogy is not perfect....but it doesn't need to be. The point was simply demand, or, rather, perceived demand. There's plenty of documented demand for Walking Dead #1. The problem comes when someone asks about something, and in the mind of the seller, that's "demand."

 

It IS demand...of a sort....but not the sort of demand that drives up prices. That sort always requires at least two interested parties (excluding the seller.)

 

By the way...they DO make demand-based offerings after the initial offering: we call them reprints.

 

Oh, and a brand new comic book is not a "collectible"...it's a brand new comic book. I know that may throw some folks, but it's still true.

I don't see what's "logic", but if you say so.

Yes, the make a second print because of demand and it is typically not as sought after as a 1st until many years later, as we have seen lately. What's the second print of a ipad? This discussion has elevated to this level because of the comparison of a comic book to an ipad.

My question is how doe we know that the dealer has only had one person ask for the books? I find it rare that only one person asks for a specific book when I am selling at shows. If they do, it is usually for an obscure/low demand independent book. If I have it with me by some chance, I sell it. If not, then when I check at home to dig it out I will inevitably look at the pricing on eBay and GPA just to make sure I am not missing something. Sometimes I have to price it up, and the buyers tend to pay the asking price regardless at the next show.

 

Also, in RMA's Whitman 3-pack case, the more someone requests a book the more likely I am to double check the pricing on it.

Good point, also, the OP never said the dealer raised the price. He just said he put it on his wall. I think that I assumed and interjected that by putting it on the wall the price was raised.

So, with the Lobo movie being axed I guess it's back into the junk bins again for those Omega Men books

Link?

The hubris is strong in here.

Yes, it's the internet!

If you could buy yourself for what you're worth, and sell yourself for what you think you're worth, you'd be very wealthy. Finghanomics 101 for the day.

If you were made of spare ribs would you eat yourself?

Well actually, I can't think of any retailer that charges more something in demand. Case in point my buddy in Toronto last year was shopping for Ipads, and there was an advertised price at a chain but limited their maximum number to 1. He had to go through hell-and-high water (with proof of going to multiple different stores) to get a second copy, as it was a twin-xmas gift. It wouldn't be in the store's best interest to open up demand for multiple copies, and can you think how it would fly with the consumer if people arrived to find the price jacked up an extra 10% because of increased demand?

 

In terms of a dealer selling comics, out of pure-randomness two guys happen to want one obscure comic at the same place and time, is it fair to charge a premium when under the vast majority of circumstances only one buyer would be interested? Would that same dealer sell the book lower if no one wants it for an extended period of time - probably not.

Of course they do.

 

Why do you think Apple sells 10 bazillion iphones? Because they keep charging the same price, and they have contracts to make sure their retailers charge the same price, as well. Best Buy cannot jack up the price on iphones, or they don't get to sell them.

 

Only in collectibles do sellers shoot themselves in the foot by trying to squeeze every dime out of anything someone might possibly be interested in. If one person asks for Strawberry Shortcake #6, that only means that that one person wants it.

 

By the way....I had a dealer who thinks like you. I bought some nice 3-Pack Only Whitmans for $8 each (the two I slabbed ended up 9.8 after I pressed them.) He said he had more, so I told him I'd be interested. This was at the local con. I kept asking him, and by the time he finally found the rest, it turned out he only had 2-3, they were VF copies, and they were $30-$40.

 

Pass. Just lost a sale, and he'll likely never sell them at any price now.

You're both comparing the intial market offering to the secondary market, which is a whole different ball game. By this logic Walking Dead #1 should be sold at cover price. As Lazyboy pointed out, there is nothing "limited" about an electronic that can be duplicated over and over as the same. With collectibles the initial offering is made once offered to the public and that's it. To be fair, Spreads did state that this model only applies to collectibles. But....how do you think all of those Tickle me Elmo's and Playstation's end up on Craigslist for inflated prices every Christmas? Secondary Market, the initial market supply did not meet the demand.

With the comparison to an Apple product, can you image if they only made 1,000,000 iphones? That's it, done. They would be well over $1k each on the secondary market.

This only applies to collectibles thought, right? Well, not exactly. Think about when a professional service is offered, say an attorney. When they start out, learning the profession, they charge a nominal fee. In 20 years once they have the experience are they still charging the same fee? I really hope not.

That concludes Microeconomics 101 for the day. Test next Thursday.

It is a sad reality that inquiring about an item shows interest, and interest translates to $$$.

 

Normal facet of business.

 

No it's not. It's a normal fact of collectibles, but not business.

 

Quiet pops, ygogolak and I are talking business. "So how many copies of biclops should I put you down for, 500, 600?"

, so back to the previous post, when something is in demand you keep charging the same price? Leaving money in the table.

It is a sad reality that inquiring about an item shows interest, and interest translates to $$$.

Normal facet of business.

I did mentioned the swamp thing 67 but since I'm a troll it went respond less, I'll have to check out that JLA Dark 1. The Flash 1 (1987) should start to be sought after with the TV show coming. Wait...I'm trolling again, need to knock that off

 

Wrong Flash. That's not Barry Allen.

Shhh....let's keep that a secret

In reference to Outcast - I was pretty much against Thief of Thieves. I thought it was a great read, but to speculate on another Kirkman title just because its Kirkman?

 

Anyways, I was obviously wrong and ate my words. So I can't see Outcast #1 not selling out and selling for $10 within the first two months of release.

ToT is pretty boring IMO. Reads as the screenplay to Italian Job more or less. If it didn't have the show hype it would have never gained in value, again, IMO.

I do shows all the time from attendance of 200 to 25K and have never EVER had anyone ask for a Livewire appearance. Ever. Not six months ago and not this weekend, where there were 5k people through the door.

I pretty much never ask a dealer if they have a book. Opens the door for them to jack the price up. I probably miss out on some stuff, but there are tons of other boxes to go through to find other goodies.

BA 12 sells for $81 w/ a detached cover

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-Adventures-12-1st-Harley-Quinn-PR-/191170826904?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=MBfbL%252BuwltRXpenKbNi%252FNIHeIGw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Quick, first comic with a rap battle, it's going to be the next hot book.

It's Kirkman, will be heavily printed, and returnable. Tread lightly.

I like that it's returnable, get them off the shelves.

Sorry guys, but quick question. How heavy are we going into Outcast? Last few Kirkman titles have done well, plus this has a show behind it. Any thoughts?

Probably not too big, 1 maybe 2,000

Now I'm wondering what is planned for sdcc

Probably a comic convention...no, a TV/movie/sci-if convention...shoot, thought I knew

Don't know i got my sets at NYCC if it was that easy to do it correctly I am sure we would see a bunch more.

For people that know how to do it I don't think it would be that hard at all.

Here are some more of my predictions for the next 5 years!

 

Action 894 Variant only

Batman 497

Gen13 1 Deathmate Black ( Gold Variant )

Sandman 69

Omega Men 3 (get'em while they are still cheap) add Omega Men 2. it prints the cover to issue 3 in the back.

 

This should fix this list.

 

I would collect Omega Men #37 before I would burn up a large amount of cash on Omega Men #2.

 

'Partners' involves Lobo under contract against Bedlam, his former partner. This contains the 1st solo Lobo story. Written by Todd Klein, plot and art by Keith Giffen. And it has quite the nice cover from Shawn McManus.

 

It's also the 1st appearance of his new costume/ outfit.

At Philly Wizard world last year, every Harley Quinn was fat

 

Yeah, and ever man dressed as Superman was an Adonis, right?

 

Just enjoy the fact that people of all shapes, colors & background enjoy cosplaying. They help spread the fun of being a comic fan. Nothing bad about that.

Of course not, but Spidey's are.

So I posted Omega Man to my LCS if they ahev available and surely after a few mins speculators started talking about it.

Huh?