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See, this is where you make it personal and insulting by making things up about me. Roy, on this point, I will agree with you. I made it too personal, I apologize for that. I will try and refrain from discussing your business. May I point out that you always refer to me as an anti presser, is that not personal ? You keep pounding away at it even though I have stated many times I am only anti BAD pressing, big difference. Apology accepted. The reason I have that perception of you is because you have on more than one occasion commented about badly pressed books at auction when in fact I didn't think they were badly pressed AND you keep saying you're a purist collector which according to my understand traditionally used to mean that purists didn't like pressed books. Anyhow, I don't want to keep going on and on. And I have to go.

It doesn't bother me if you say a book is pressed. It bothered me in the other thread when you compared the shrunken cover template to the ASM #10 CGC 9.8 as though there was some relationship between the two when their wasn't. I have no problem with either statement and I agree. Because if it was going to be a 9.4 it likely wouldn't sell for less anyway. See, this is where you make it personal and insulting by making things up about me. Pressing is not a secret. Every single Facebook comic group talks about it. It's spoken about in nearly every comic forum. It's even been a very thoroughly discussed topic on this very chat forum for a decade. I've personally spent a lot of time on these chat forums making educational posts about grading and pressing. So if I've been discussing pressing and on this chat forum for a decade how or why would anyone here possibly think that pressing could be a secret? You also have no idea how I run my business, which is obvious from your statement. Please stop talking about me and my business when it has nothing to do with the conversation. How is my conversation not civil? Am I not allowed to discuss something I disagree with? Is this a chat forum where everyone just sings Kumbaya? As I said, if you don't want to have a discussion then just feel free to ignore me. Otherwise, I have a right to an opinion. You on the other hand do not have a right to keep making discussions personal with me.

As I pointed out in the Hulk #1 thread a few months ago I believe that it's been a book that is due for a bump compared to how other keys like AF #15 and SC #4 have risen. That and the Planet Hulk references in upcoming Avengers / Thor movies should give it some life.

Troll you? I don't troll anyone. I usually ask questions if your post isn't clear and I state why I disagree when I disagree. If that's trolling then the entire internet is one giant space troll. Yes I did use the emoticons. Guilty. I simply disagree with you because you often post things that don't make any sense to me. Like cover gloss getting dull from pressing. Or 'that book looks pressed'. Bob do you or have you ever had books pressed?

But you swoop in like a banshee on other people's comments, often interpreting them incorrectly without forgiveness. I just wish you could see how incredibly difficult it is to deal with you on these kind of threads. Always right, always the expert, always on the high moral ground. In this thread, you were wrong. Can you admit that, of course not. Instead you were in a hurry and didn't make your thoughts clear. It's all good though. See you in the next every thread. Fixed that. I just checked. According to my count I posted in about 6 or 7 separate threads across both the CGC forum and the Watercooler in the last 3 days. But thanks for that.

But you swoop in like a banshee on other people's comments, often interpreting them incorrectly without forgiveness. I just wish you could see how incredibly difficult it is to deal with you on these kind of threads. Always right, always the expert, always on the high moral ground. In this thread, you were wrong. Can you admit that, of course not. Instead you were in a hurry and didn't make your thoughts clear. It's all good though. See you in the next thread. But, I never 'swoop' in on anyone. I'm pretty polite when I post and I often admit to being wrong. My manhood doesn't rest on whether I'm right or wrong. I'm only here for conversation. If my idea of conversation doesn't suit you feel free to ignore me. I dropped the last conversation even though I disagreed with you because you asked me to. Please stop following me around now and making it personal. Thanks.

Honestly, I saw the post and felt horrible for the guy, so I clicked the link to see what I could buy. That's when I noticed it was an eBay link. It struck me, that it was an ebay thread and I almost never go in the Ebay thread. I thought that, man, I bet someone hit notify on this thread. So, testing my theory that people never fail to disappoint you if given the chance, I checked to see if anyone had hit "notify". You do this by clicking on the notify button and if someone has already informed moderation it will show a message like "someone has already notified moderation about this post". If you click on the "notify" button but don't hit submit on the next screen, it doesn't notify the mods, but it's a good way to see if the button has already been humped. The OP posted at 11:32am (my time), I saw the post went to ebay, came back, noticed the button was humped and posted my post by 11:48am. So sometime in the first 15 minutes someone humped. At 12:11pm it was moved. Your faith in the inherent goodness of man is truly one of your finest characteristics.. And his greatest exploitable weakness. Weakness is in the eye of the beholder.

....sad but true..... GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) I'm not saying there aren't some terrible people here (and/or everywhere), but isn't it also possible that the button humper asked the mods to move the thread to the appropriate place, and/or notified the OP by pm to ask the mods to move it? Or that the OP noticed the issue by himself (or was told by pm) and button humped himself? I don't know if any of those things are true, but my mind didn't immediately jump to the meanest possibility and the degradation of human civilization. If the goal of the humper was to move the thread, I think a PM to the OP letting him know it was in the wrong place, and that he should notify the mods to move it, would have been as far as he should have gone. No need to then also hump the button. In a situation like this, if someone could look at that thread and all they took from his post was "hey, it's in the wrong section" then they've got bigger problems then rules of the sale forum being broken. I suppose a self-hump could have happened, but my gut is telling me to look to the board sociopaths instead. In this case, I went Occam's Razor on the humping. Agreed.

Where is that taken out of context thread again? Jim BANNED!

I know what you're saying. When I'm in a hurry I have a habit of rushing out posts without making my thoughts clear. It's obvious the book wasn't pressed since it retains it's old serial number and it was not regraded. Only reholdered. I've known about the old serial number since the sale was announced a few days ago in another thread. My new thought is much more clear as about what I believe about the book. Sue me.

There's no chance this book hasn't been thoroughly worked on already. Agreed. Roy, you absolutely have to be trolling here. In another thread you are slamming me because I postulated the book look pressed. Here, when I say the book looks original, you claim the book was worked on. Since you like emoticons, here are a few for you.... Bob, I don't troll. What I should have said was that if the book was not worked on then there is likely nothing that can improve the grade that can be removed that will improve the grade (I count about a half dozen spine stresses, I assume there is some tanning due to PQ and I don't know what else). Roy, you give a '+1' to the statement that the book has been worked on. Then, the original owner refutes this. Now you try to dance out of it with 'what I should have said......' blah, blah,blah. I'm calling BS when I see BS. Can a Virgo ever admit to being wrong ? Bob, just don't respond to me anymore. You'll be much happier. Both mschmidt and I are saying pretty much the same thing. If that sale had anything to benefit from an upgrade, Ghost Town (who is no dummy) or Comiclink would have upgraded the book if there was a shot. That's my belief without talking to either.

I wanted to this thread and post a scan of the book raw to give an indication of how nicely this book shows. The holder with the scan doesn't do the front cover justice. As I said, there are some back cover chips but the front cover eye appeal is off the charts.

You've stated this multiple times. What do you base it on?

When did CGC give you the false impression that pressing was common pre 2000? Those stories came from long time dealers who said that Greg Buls and Marnin Rosenberg (who both found a Pedigree collection each) were pressing books pre CGC.

There's no chance this book hasn't been thoroughly worked on already. Agreed. Roy, you absolutely have to be trolling here. In another thread you are slamming me because I postulated the book look pressed. Here, when I say the book looks original, you claim the book was worked on. Since you like emoticons, here are a few for you.... Bob, I don't troll. What I should have said was that if the book was not worked on then there is likely nothing that can improve the grade that can be removed that will improve the grade (I count about a half dozen spine stresses, I assume there is some tanning due to PQ and I don't know what else).

There's no chance this book hasn't been thoroughly worked on already. Agreed.

Good to see someone who holds on to his books. If you don't mind me asking why have Josh only post sale now when purchase was a month ago ? Peter, you don't see your posts as a little rude? 1st you accuse the guy of lying, then you joke around how you should have bought a book that wasn't for sale and then you question someone's motivations? Based on what I know (waiting 2 weeks for an email from Josh) he was on vacation over the holidays and is now probably getting stuff finalized that was done over the holidays while he was away. Methinks you should pull back on the stick just a little.

JC

I posted it in this thread 11 years ago. To my knowledge they always were but I also know a few things have changed under the latest leadership so I'm not so sure all the same rules for 9.8 still apply.

The mark as edited box. When you edit your post you have the option to make it known that you edited, or you can uncheck that box and make those edits without telling the world. I generally check that box but only because I hate the little letters at the bottom of a post making the post look less clean. The OCD in me hates it but I will leave it if it's somehow helpful to the discussion when the edit was made.

Or just post less.

It's a bad scan. Looks like a consignment book and not scanned by CC.

Heritage just sold a 9.4 at auction for $450K a few months ago. You really think a 9.2 should sell for more?

I could be wrong but it could just be Josh posting the sale as a matter of public record. He might still own the book.

The poor froze and the rich got richer. But there were other factors involved. For one you had interest rates that were as close to zero as you could get them. So anybody with any money was looking for a place to pour that money into. So it was a perfect storm with new money looking for places to invest as well as lots of movie hype. I don't think anybody is talking about a crash. Corrections happen all the time. AF #15 corrected several times in the late 2000's. There would be a surge and then a slight pull back or a plateau. It's just never been as over analyzed as it is now and that over analzying in and of itself creates over reactions in the market. For example, one copy goes cheap and if the market grabs hold of that one sale and starts selling you create your falling knife situation . It's that over stimulation in the market that is create volatility and havoc in stocks as well.