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Been suggesting something similar. Marvel allows FOX to add the "and live-action TV rights" to their X-Men contract. FOX agrees to a mutual termination of the FF rights contract. This gives Marvel back not only the FF, but Galactus, Doom, Surfer, Kang, Immortus, Anhilus and a few other big cosmic & ancient-being type characters. And a good number of the cool baddies. Not to mention, it also cleans up any potential lawsuits or gray area when it comes to the use of the Skrulls/Super-Skrull. That seems like a lot for Fox to give up. Doesn't sound realistic. As the FF rights (at least for FOX) have been a losing proposition for FOX 2/3 of the time they've made use of them, and an X-Men tie-in TV show would at least make them some money, it might not be the worst deal for FOX. They could look at it as trading a property that has been a general loser for an opportunity to expand a generally winning property to other platforms that aren't accessible now. Marvel has the chance to play hardball again. Marvel won't lose anything if they stand pat or take a hardline negotiating position & strike out. If they ask for the FF contract to be terminated, the worst that happens is they hear "no" and respond with something along the lines of "ok, enjoy losing money on FF movies you keep screwing up while also not having an X-related TV show on the air. We're going to go mine our E-list for our next $500M movie. But if you decide that you want a money-making X-tv show & want to stop losing money because you don't know what you're doing with the FF, give us a call." They did it with DD and made out like a bandit. FOX only offered Galactus or the Surfer. Marvel said "both or you lose DD". FOX wouldn't give both so Marvel took DD, parlayed it into a big piece of their NETFLIX contract & the rest is future history. Marvel will likely do the exact same thing again. Use their leverage (the tv rights) into getting something big that they want. And if they fail, they don't lose anything. Yup. Marvel wins no matter what they do. It's just going to take some time for Fox to realize it. They either partner up with Marvel, sell the rights to Marvel or they continue to bleed while Marvel waits for the inevitable to happen anyway.

Disney / Marvel. I'm pretty sure their net worth is multiples of what Fox's is.

There will definitely be another movie due to the fact they need to put one out at some point to retain the rights. They've got another 10 years now, so... Plus Fox and Marvel are bitter, bitter enemies now. Marvel isn't getting back anything for free from now on, and Fox will get nothing except a complete lack of cooperation from Marvel. Feige and the Fox execs have been in a state of all-out war for a few years now following various disagreements when they were negotiating over the Daredevil rights. Fox won't let Marvel use the word "mutant" in its films, Marvel killed off Wolverine in the comics last year in what some think is a move to do what it can to de-value the character, Marvel has expressly forbidden its writers from creating new mutant characters in the comics, and Marvel refuses to let ANYBODY create toys based upon Fox's films, including themselves. It looks bad. But you never know... It does look bad, but who has more market clout, Fox or Disney? A smart business person knows when to go up against someone and when to partner up with them. At this point, it's starting to look like it would be in Fox's favor to partner up with Marvel the way they did with Spidey...since Disney / Marvel hold most of the deck - from character rights, to movie making ability, to credibility to over all size. If anything, this FF movie has backed Fox a little deeper into the corner and empowered Disney / Marvel. At least to anybody with half a brain and a full wallet.

This is so bad. And the Collider movie crew talked extensively about these details. This is how I envision it happening too. It's easy to vilify someone when you have an entire corporation fighting over creative vision. Right now Fox is looking ridiculous. More ridiculous than ever before for meddling.

He's really great in it. He plays an outsider, and thus is proxy for the viewer, fully bringing us into a rich, distinct culture. I may have to watch it on your birthday, then.

It also shows how subjective people can be. The bad news can affect people's ratings. I don't think it's a RT 9% movie but I also don't think it's a 70% movie. It will probably settle realistically somewhere in the 30% range but there are spots that are much better than that. Unfortunately, people don't pay to just see a few good scenes.

I skipped that movie because I could never stand Antonio Banderas

Being a lifelong fan and also wanting to know for myself how the movie was, I bit the bullet and went to see it today after seeing people say it was better than the reviews reflected. I'll agree with most people that the scathing reviews do not well represent how the movie actually feels when you're watching it. One thing (among many) that the critics do reflect accurately is the change in pace for the movie. The first 2/3's of the movie are reasonably well done, well paced and give you a nice feel to the film. You have the sombre, soft-core horror feel where something is brewing and it reaches you. The shadows, the music, the pacing and the tone of the scenes during and after they newly transform are well done. In fact, I'd say those scenes are VERY well done and somewhat reminded me of Prometheus when the horrific things start to happen (storyline / plotline disputes aside, I'm just talking about the tone of the films). You feel for the transformed heroes as you realize what they have become. Even leading up to the transformation in Planet Zero (the Negative Zone ) , there is a good pace to the film and neat little easter eggs dropped all along the way. I thought that Planet Zero looked terrific and spot on. One thing that lacks severely though is personal connection to the characters and their connection to each other. In my opinion there was not enough independent character development for each character and I get the feeling they missed something to unite them as a team the way I remember them being united in FF #1. They never really bonded. Even between Sue and Johnny, they acted more like high school friends than brother and sister. The special effects are a massive leap forward over the original FF films (obviously) but even then, I felt like they made a few blunders. Torch looked great. I was flooded with comic memories every time I saw him. Invisible Girl was decent (though Kate Mara wouldn't be my 1st choice) and Miles, while stretchy, was nowhere near what I'd expect from the comics (I picture Reed wrapping himself around some large structure dozens of times to keep it from falling). All in all, you barely get to see 3 of them use their powers- WHICH IS WHAT THE MOVIE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT! I was not very pleased with the way the Thing looked. He's supposed to be the 'Ever Lovin' Blue Eyed Thing' with a certain handsomeness and charisma about him but I couldn't help but keep noticing that his head was too small above his brow, his trademark brow was missing and he had no butt. And the package deal? Yeah, I don't understand why he didn't need clothing. I will admit that even though the final product didn't look the way I wanted it to, his mannerisms, his voice and is profile (he looked like the typical, small nosed, handsome Thing when his head was turned sideways) was well done. The short Thing battle scenes that you see were the highlight of the movie to me. I thought Doom was a total waste. The reasoning for his 'look' was a long shot. The hoodie he wore was a throwback to the FF books but completely unnecessary and out of place and even way the name came to be was hokey IMO. Which leads me to the 2nd half or final 1/3 of the movie - completely out of place in this movie as far as story pacing and story quality. You feel like you're watching a different movie. The fight scene seemed rushed, the transitions and reasoning were not very well entrenched and it all somehow seemed forced. They should have made this a 2 hour film and paced things out a bit better. And wasted in my opinion. Introducing Planet Zero (the Negative Zone ) could have opened a WORLD of possibilities - like Annihilus, Blastaar, etc but instead they rehashed Doom with a terrible origin story, terrible costume, terrible rushed battle scene. Oh yeah, and Sue never went to get her powers in the first place. It was obvious that whoever wrote the -script knew very little about the FF's near 60 year history. They missed the magic, the chemistry and the root of what made them the FF. I'd put this on par with Green Lantern. It had it's moments as a movie, it had it's moments for fanboys, and while it wasn't a total bomb, it was not great based on what a comic book movie could be. Fox threw out an opportunity to make a mark and instead they made a small splash. If you want to see a few cool scenes you can see the movie but if you wait for Netflix you won't be missing much.

Why would you think shenanigans?

If I remember correctly, he has a hearing disability so English isn't perfect for him. How does a hearing disability affect one's typing? I seemed to remember him excusing his typing and saying it was because of his hearing disability at one point. People generally type the way the speak, don't they? Many people with hearing disabilities have trouble speaking so I assumed the two were related. You'll have to ask him to be sure though. Doesn't make sense to me, but whatevs. ASL places the noun in different spots. Usually it comes at the beginning. It isn't always grammatically incorrect, but it has a different sound. As Roy said, many people type like the speak. People that are deaf or hard of hearing also have written issues that might make it difficult for them to learn in school. I student taught in a room with a student that was deaf, and she had a lot of writing issues. We usually just helped her do multiple drafts or allowed her to use a computer to point out the mistakes. I'm not an expert, but I took ASL in college and found the deaf community really interesting. It is something we don't talk about, but they have a rich language and culture. The attached article also states that 20-50% of students that are deaf have other accompanying learning disabilities. The article even states it is hard to diagnose because may students go to schools without the proper resources. https://www.gallaudet.edu/clerc-center/information-and-resources/info-to-go/educate-children-(3-to-21)/students-with-disabilities.html I think Fing should call Jolly out on it and see if he's faking.

I'd like to nominate you for being mean!!!!

As I said in the other thread...

Where was there a Drive In in Manhattan? Jim and I both live in two (different) very rural areas so they are still out there.

If I remember correctly, he has a hearing disability so English isn't perfect for him. How does a hearing disability affect one's typing? I seemed to remember him excusing his typing and saying it was because of his hearing disability at one point. People generally type the way the speak, don't they? Many people with hearing disabilities have trouble speaking so I assumed the two were related. You'll have to ask him to be sure though.

Maybe the buyer is a collector and cares about how the book looks.

If I remember correctly, he has a hearing disability so English isn't perfect for him.

That has happened to me a lot. I would listen to people's reviews, my expectations would drop and then I'd be pleasantly surprised when I finally see the movie. Hang on - I thought you could spot a good/bad movie from 50 parsecs? I actually can most of the time (not always obviously - even I'm not perfect) but my level of enjoyment can be affected by knowing too much before hand. I'm not saying you can make a 10 out of a 3 but it might change a 5 to a 6 or 7 or visa versa. You never miss an opportunity.

I've been having slow pages all day. I don't even bother posting in here anymore.

(thumbs u

What's your favorite Superhero movie of all time. What's your favorite non-Superhero movie of all time. How would you rate this on a scale of 1-10?

That has happened to me a lot. I would listen to people's reviews, my expectations would drop and then I'd be pleasantly surprised when I finally see the movie.

You're young. You'll learn. This movie had WIN all over it as soon as Affleck's name was mentioned. Screw the haters that jeered him. The guy is a Hollywood mogul and he knows what he's doing and he's proven it over and over again.

CGC can give non-certified signatures a blue label but the grade will be affected (downwards) by the 'writing on cover'. Alternative, they can qualify the signature (Green label) and grade the book without the 'writing on cover' penalty. I believe that's right. That is correct. Writing (of any kind) is a defect. That's why the SS grades are considered "Qualified" grades, a SS book without the writing would theoretically grade higher and be in a blue label. I don't think that's correct. If the signature is witnessed by a CGC witness, the book is graded as though the sig is not there. If the book is not witnessed by a CGC witness, the book is graded with the sig treated as writing on the cover. That's my understanding. CGC can give non-certified signatures a blue label but the grade will be affected (downwards) by the 'writing on cover'. Alternative, they can qualify the signature (Green label) and grade the book without the 'writing on cover' penalty. I believe that's right. From my understanding you are correct. I have an ASM 300 with an uncertified sig by Mcafarlane on the first page. It is a blue label 9.8, which makes me think that the book would have graded a 9.9 without the sig. I believe your book can grade a 9.8 with an unauthorized sig on the inside of the book. I wouldn't bet that this is the only thing keeping it from a 9.9. There could be additional defects. 9.9 grades are usually only handed out to flawless specimens (and we're talking about near microscopic flaws including limits to production defects).

I think general, people should think about saying or putting something into writing before doing it. Generally, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. That's good advice that's applicable far beyond the bounds of this place. Wholeheartedly agree.

Does this mean that they lose the additional revenue that would generally come with 3D ticket sales then?