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3 minutes ago, lou_fine said:

Yes, you are definitely 100% correct here, as I really should have qualified my broader statement that although we definitely do see a significant drop back in prices from the peak movie hype levels, they do drop back, but never back down to their initial starting point before the initial movie hype.  

So, this kind of robust market for movie related hype books usually works out better for speculators and flippers who enjoys timing the market and can get out in time, as opposed to collectors who enjoys spending time in the market.  

Could not agree more or have said it better   

 

20 minutes ago, lou_fine said:

Yes, but does it really make that much sense when history has shown us time and time again that these movie amd media related hype books that are driven up into the stratosphere for a short period of time in almost every single case falls back down to Earth by the time the movie comes out.    

Have to disagree, I remember when the 1st Deadpool was announced ( Ryan did the mini promo). CGC 9.8 WP jumped over night from $300/400 to $800/1000+ With high grade raw's selling for as low as $50/100 in my shop one week to $300 the next. After the movie & the hype as expected it dropped, but not back down to pre movie levels but to around last years pre Covid norm of about $750/800. This tends to be the trend, look at the IM 55's sales history and numerous other books that jumped  due to "movie hype" Yes there is pre movie high but in most cases the books settle at a significant higher price then their pre movie hype number. I also suspect we will see the same trend with todays crazy hyper market, using DP as example again if pre Covid a 9.8 avg was $800 & today the book is trending at $2800/3000.....I bet it settles in at 2k when life get back to being somewhat normal for most of us, which is still a big jump from pre Covid prices, but that's just 100% speculation, if enough NEW money comes into the hobby and stays in the game who the hell know ?

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14 hours ago, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

Some of those Valiant Nintendo books sell for a ton in high grade. There's someone on the Facebook Valiant Buy/Sell group selling up a big batch of them right now.

I upgraded my 9.0s to 9.6 this year and posted the extra here with no takers at $75, sold it on ebay in a few hrs at $99.  I am sure it's not the same for everyone but I am finding that I am getting faster sales even when priced higher on ebay (I try and give the board members the 20% or more I am paying to evilbay) as I would rather sell the books here. 

9 hours ago, Lazyboy said:

Were you even alive in the mid-90s?

_{Yea graduated with my Masters in education in 1992 lol, I grew up being a collector in the 2nd wave of the hobby.}

On 3/15/2021 at 12:12 AM, Subby1938 said:

It’s irrelevant wether you care or not . Comic books have changed . Pop culture has changed . We are no longer geeks collecting and sharing our hobby with nerds underground . This is full blown modern Americana pop culture . 
 

 

You know what I find so ironic  is you can go back decades at this point and its the same statements in one form or another over and over" I would never spend that much on a comic unless I loved it" "There are to many of them out there"  "I would buy a rare golden age romance before I bought a modern" I am in it for the love of comics" blah blah blah. 20 years plus of a world wide internet market bringing in millions of new collector that is continually being fueled by TV shows, movies & social media has not convinced some collectors that it's not 1985 & Overstreet is still relevant. 

 

 

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11 hours ago, oldmilwaukee6er said:

 

That is his main point... new card money does not care about our old comic rules. They don't care that comic old guard worry over census population.

 

I can't agree more and after looking at many of the posts here by many of the " old guard" it's hard not to see his point of view...."I would only buy it if I like it" "I am not in it for the money" I can't understand how any can drop 2k on a modern book" 

3 hours ago, Lazyboy said:

I'm not going to watch the video. Based on the title, I'm just going to assume it contains a bunch of footage from the mid-90s.

No it contains a point of view on WHY THE BIG CRASH many people on the board expect may never happen.

6 hours ago, www.alexgross.com said:

if by "these days" you mean for many years now, then yes, WP command higher prices in all books "these days."

Hi, maybe I wasn't clear in what I was trying to say when I said " larger prices" ie WP commanding even more then in the past, 100% WP have always been more sought after but looking at the current market trend many Bronze age keys with WP seem to really be commanding a higher % premium than in the past.

24 minutes ago, HotKey said:

He makes some great points. Assuming his theory of sports card money being the primary force driving up comic prices is correct, I don't see a crash coming. It would take almost all that same new money wanting to bail at the same time and undercutting each other for it to crash. Otherwise if only some bail, the other new money will buy it up at the selloff rates and the market will remain largely the same. 

His comparison to population numbers follows logic too, especially his point at the end about the ones that will forever remain in PC's no matter what the price is. The comic world definitely seems to have more nostalgia and sentimental value attached to their collections. 

How many NM 98 9.8s are actually available right now? Maybe 10% of the census? When someone could sell their Jordan rookie and buy 20+ of them, it doesn't take very many of those happening to drastically impact the market.

I think new money wins the battle and stays a dominant force in the market.

 I think its hard to gauge right now as everything is up but what impacted me more than anything about this video was his comparison of what the comic community considers a large census # vs how new people entering the hobby view those same numbers. When I start to think of it in terms of historic character impact vs census # for a book like 9.8 Hulk 181 or even a NS 1st Harley I think he makes a valid point that many book might just be way undervalued right now? I agree with your Jordan statement 100% yes it's extreme but the point is dead on! (  how many people need to get into our hobby to have a big impact on a book like NYX #3 9.8 if she becomes the next generation Wolverine?). If anything he also does not take into consideration that in MOST cases comic characters have a  infinite longer collectable life span vs 99% of sports cards ( most cases Mickey Mantle is Mickey Mantle, Jodan is Jordan etc) Who was Don Mattingly? 

Take a few minutes ...watch this and then let's have a discussion...................................................

 

 

3 hours ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Dang a 7.5

Off white just sold for $5.700

And off white to white sold for $6,300 snap that is tempting

White Pages seem to be commanding a larger premium these days in all grades.

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6. HULK #180 OW/W 6.5 $160

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I love the Aardvark and have a complete run up to the Mid 200s ( jusy got to wacked for me) & I treasure the early issues However regardless of comic value WOLVERINE is the king of the Bronze age hands down. What I find so funny is there was a time in High School when I had the same conversation (1986) if it was Punisher or Wolverine.