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Even happened to me on 1 book. Spent $200 on it at auction during the near bubble height, 16 months later picked up a second copy at auction for a mere $35.

The argument went from is the book a good investment or good ROI at $5000? at $4000? at $3000, which now can be answered with a definitive NO, to the book is only bleeding slowly not hemorrhaging like others. Still 194 is bleeding and that has not abated. Newsstands in 9.8 as I predicted would be $2500 or less this summer. Newsstands in 9.8w now selling for same or less as direct sale did late last year. Next prediction; in 6 months time under $2000 will be the 9.8 norm for newsstands and under $1600 for Direct Sale. If regular auction could see even larger surprises. I do feel bad for those who paid $1k+ for 9.4's or $1.5k+ for 9.6's ... Never buy a book when hot is almost always best advice. FOMO is seriously bad mojo

The original is square bound

Funny Among some folks I knew way back when eBay introduced Buy-It-Now it was popular for them to say never sell anything that way as all it took was 2 ID10T's

60 - How about, Showcase 60 re-intro and 1st SA Spectre #48 Add Dell Giant 48 1st app The Flintstones yeah I know both are in my current sig

My First Sub. man I was young then. The book was highest and 1/1 on the early census' as i recall, alas no longer either... I handed it to CGC at a local con - CGC was still in NJ. Was as simple and smooth as could be. Back in 2000 there were no long lines and their staff was extremely careful/gentle with books, helped me fill out the form and they even took time to talk w/folks. I recall Steve B saying can't wait a Dell Giant to grade, or somethings thereabouts... Those days are looong gone.

we really should have a cronze or bropper sub-forum

plus right now they can make a 30days of 5% or so annually on the dough. Actually with all the coin that passes through them probably much higher than 5%

As they say in trading cards; "Buy the card, not the flip" Flip means label in the slab. I've many 9.6's that present much nicer than 9.8's specifically on my self submitted stuff.

No one size fits all

I have as well but only if i feel price is less than current fmv - reason is fmv's are sinking on most of the stuff i seek.

hoping he can get back what he's lost.

typical of bubble burst after effects. Now that less and less care about chasing books due to film or tv it will get worse. Outliers and hot items of the moment will always exist but the days of nearly every book being hot will not exist again in the lifetimes of most reading this post today aug 4 2023 BTW this is good for collectors who are once again the lifeblood of the hobby rather than the carpetbagger flippers and speculators!

Solid and Sound Advice! I never ever use a password on more than a single site and use unique names, as well as MFA where available. Still I generally only use 1 of 6 different email ID's for most sites...

Anyone in an 'Internet Space" for a large enough firm will find that hysterical especially if a regulated industry ! I could tell you some stories from when i was just starting out 20 years back

Definitely send pics, I see in above post you have a reply from Joey who is the expert's expert ! So get those pics posted.

I get impression it's all Josh's bat and ball. Still Doug being an officer of the corporation may have some liabilities both in criminal and civil arena's - talking in general not just regarding this situation. Regardless of the exact issue this time it could have very likley been avoided if Josh had not been so cheap with tech budget (geez, Spencer and Doug even admitted they had 90's code on their site), which is the very heart and lifeblood of his business. Josh's miserly stinginess now will be costing him BIG TIME! I advise all to monitor whatever credit card they have on file with CLink very carefully! Not just for the next week or 2 but for the next 90-120 days!

While on surface perhaps plausible it's a positive sign, from a tech perspective it may very well be independent thus no sign whatsoever. Example inventory DB is fine and email batch mechanisms no issues since independent.

I am seeing Doug's name mentioned so frequently in this thread. I thought he was merely an employee working mostly on commissions and Josh was the firm owner? Is Doug now a partner ?

In today's worlds using open-source and patching regular is critical. I work for a Fortune 20 firm and we patch weekly, sometimes more frequently as need or chatter arises. In 2023 if operating a true eCommerce site you do not have the budget for IT Security then you do simply not have the budget to stay in business. Based on CL bragging about the items they have sold it seems to be greed and stinginess is the culprit not lack of budget. Now they will take a huge reputational hit, that even worse braggarts like Heritage can capitalize on in the court of collector/seller perception. Simply no excuse in today's world to get caught with pants down when there is AWS for example to let handle security of the cloud while you handle security in the cloud.... Yeah yeah I did just get my Architect Cert even if my firm doesn't use AWS. I do feel for the folks at CL but if Josh was not sooooo cheap they would not be in this mess. P.S. I am a CL link fan as a buyer and have been for 18 years but may need to re-think that stance as their lack of IT security is highly problematic.

Hi, Did something occur?

see general sub forum for more ( or less ) folks

Once a site is "down" more than 8-10 hours elapsed with support with folks actively working on it usually means it will be multi-days. Reason is the simple things are not working, and they likley have little idea how to proceed. Then the pasta stage begins; throwing stuff at wall to see if anything sticks.

They say it's better to be a has been, than a never was. I do wonder if that provides the Overstreet folks with just enough comfort that they don't even try to do better.

Not saying this has anything to do with their issues; When you are still running late 1990's code (and they are) in 2023 at very least you are inviting trouble! P.S. I do feel those folks personally as this will mean near 24/7 hours for many of them for possibly quite a while. Then there is the reputational hit...