Professor K

I like the early Shelly serious Flash much better than later renditions, same with Green Lantern. Been wanting to upgrade this to blue for a long long long time.

Oh boy back to square one. Thanks for taking the time to find those . So Eldon Hamann also wrote his name in cursive, and even his last name on some. As did Eldon Tuffenstamer, at least on that one book Red Fury posted. And from what I can tell the name Eldon looks the same on both, the E's and N's are identical. Oh this is just nuts. No wonder nobody knows for sure. Does anyone know for sure?

Well.......we know that Tuffy wrote his name in full name in cursive on some books so check that off. Unless someone finds a Cursive Eldon with an Iowa address on it we now almost conclusively that all the cursive copies are Tuffy's. As I asked FriscoL , but maybe you know, do the books with the Iowa address have the name only written as ELDON? If so I think that's all we need to know. 2 different Eldons are being put in 1 pedigree. If so no matter how inconvenient it may be this should be corrected and seperated from this point on into two pedigrees. The Hamann and the Tuffenstamer pedigrees.

Hi, so that is Eldon Hamann from Iowa, well his dad John. Do you know or remember if the name written on the books with addresses was written as ELDON or in cursive?

Very interesting. Are there other examples that have Tuffy written on them? Edit: Someone did post a pic of a cursive Eldon with his full name written on the back, so the cursive ones are definitely Tuffy's. Also the Eldon books whether cursive or block were never "discovered" and bought by someone all in one sale ( as far as we know) but "surfaced" here and there over the years right? Anyone remember the earliest time you saw a Cursive Eldon? Or if they first started showing up in Illinois where Tuffenstamer lived at the time of his passing? This may have been posted before but this is probably Tuffy. Passed at just 50 years old in 1978, wife 2 years later at 49, and daughter in 1994 at 42, or 43 years old, also in Illinois. https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/KWZT-MQ6/eldon-m-tuffentsamer-1928-1978 If there are two Eldons it would be wrong to designate them into one pedigree........for the memory of both men. Sounds sentimental but that's but I think it's only right.

Not always true. 10 years ago I had a plan to finish my Silver Age collection first, get that out of the way, and wait to concentrate on Golden Age once I'm done and I know more about it. Now I can't afford most of the ones I want. I think "you snooze, you lose" has much more truth to it.

Yes that is true, It was tighter. In this example even the graders notes list more defects in 2000. Perhaps that means that in 2023 those defects were overlooked intentionally or not noticed at all. To be clear, I'm not making any insinuations of preferential treatment on this book as "judging by the cover" it does look better than a 5.5. Looks like it deserved an upgrade. It's gonna get lots of healthy bids fer sure.

Yeah but the lack of a back cover scan could affect the price. Wait. Could? Will, that's better. Two full grades higher. Why can't I ever be that lucky. But looking at it now in the 5.5 holder on HA and it does look better than that. Maybe it deserved a bump, at least a full grade.

Oh right, I thought there was another. Well I still think my theory that most of the upcoming ones may be from sales that never were paid is possible. More possible than someone who spent over a million big ones on books suddenly deciding to sell them all in one auction.

I think that was the most expensive book of them all. Pretty sure it was the most expensive book of them all. That would make sense. Most of this whole promise lot could be from deadbeat bidders, not just one. It would make sense that if that's the case HA wait a year or so to put them up again so it looks like they're being re-sold instead of re-jects.

I've got a feeling there's gonna be a nice showdown at the end and the price may get up to 120,000 or more.

Yep.

Simon was really on his best game in those months. I know he was doing a lot of interior work and he did the cover for Ken Detective Funnies Jan1940, But it was those two covers where he really proved he could roll with the big dogs. I would think by looking at these two that when took over doing the covers at Fox in May 1940 that he must have studied Fine and Eisner's work beforehand. I see a strong similarity. And I think I told you already seeing your 9.4 is what inspired me to go after the next #10 that came up. So Im'a thanking you for that.

Thanks!. The cgc holder helps a lot. Book looks almost 3-D. Pretty sure Joe did the inking as well on this cover. I think this and Science Comics 4 are two of his best covers, if not the two best. Both May 1940. When he took over the reins at Fox from Mr. Fine. Pretty big task.

Well if it is a 2.0 its a nice looking 2.0. Great color. Other than the tape it looks real nice.

Back from cgc. Previously a 3.0 graded by the other guys. Not too bothered that it came back a full grade lower even though I think it should be a 3.0. Just happy to have one.

Sounds like fancy talk for..........you know.

I don't think he's aware that not all GA books cost a fortune. Thousands of GA books that cost equal, the same, or less than lots of Silver and up keys.

This is one of those topics where that little voice inside keeps saying ,"Stay out of it, stay out of it". Another guy here who (whom?) I respect a great deal stated most of the books were graded 3 to 5 incriments higher. I think that is an exaggeration. Just focusing on the high grade stuff, less than 1%? Maybe that might be an exaggeration also? I compared a lot of them as they appeared on HA to other pedigrees and high grade copies, Church examples included in the same grade range. I know you guys have seen a lot more than me, even held them in your hands ungraded so you know better than me fer sure. It just looked to me that an amount, be it a fair, moderate or large amount is matter of opinion but at least some were clearly over-graded. If they were over-graded and done so intentionally we'll never know for sure but we can sure think it a possibility.

I caught my 5,0 at the beginning of the drop. In fact it was the first one to drop below 20 in a year and a half. Before the past sales were 23 to 26k not counting e bay because who really knows at the place. The one I got went for a few thousand under 20. I was surprised I was the high bidder especially with the pedigree status and what it had been selling for. One of the rare times I think I did something right.

Great post! Honestly I wasn't surprised. I was thinking around 3k because it's an awesome unique cover and you never see one above mid grade for sale.

Nice compilation. I'm surprised the TAR 32 4.0 sold for nearly the same as the 6.5 Authentic Police 6 . Without checking past sales Phantom Ladies 19 and 20 look like good deals

I understand. I guess my grading standards have evolved over time into cgc standards. Meaning i've seen so many graded books that their criteria and mine are the same. So when I submit my expectations are I think realistic and for the most part accurate. Past few years I or perhaps I should we have been seeing so many over and undergraded books that the gauge is broken for having realistic expectations when submitting and personally I have submitted my last book for grading. And this was it. Graded 3.0 by the other guys, resubbed uncracked to cgc. They graded it a 2.0. Looks at least 3.0 to me based on the thousands of other books I've seen . At least it will come home in a nicer holder. Sorry if I'm off topic

I can't remember a time I was pleasantly surprised with the grade I was given for a submitted book. At best they've come back what I thought they would. More often than not less. Sometimes I even think they have it out for me, like I'm on some list, but maybe I'm just being paranoid. I hate seeing obviously overgraded books. However it seems the majority bid on the grade and not the book, at least from what I've seen.