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Batman 423

Grade 9.4

Page Quality WHITE

Grade Date 06/22/2022

Grader Notes light spine stress lines to cover

On 7/3/2022 at 11:05 AM, Chaz G. said:

Here's my book that went from my presser to CGC.

Looks just like the ones I had issues with. Same for me as well - from presser to CGC.

Indeed CT removal! 

On 6/24/2022 at 7:30 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

There's some cognitive dissonance going on here.

On 6/18/2022 at 6:39 AM, comicginger1789 said:

I checked eBay and some copies have this, others do not. Just thought I would shed light on a potential printing flaw that seems common and I wasn’t sure anyone had ever mentioned it before 

I did a quick peruse and found it on three different venues in a few minutes. My take it is a variation of "ink transfer stain" aka "Oil transfer stain" where the oil from the printers ink migrates, usually to the inside front cover. This seems to have gone in reverse from the inside front cover to the outside. Looking at the inside that is a heavy application of solid yellow with what appears to be some cyan, magenta and black in very small amounts. Guesstimate solid (100%) yellow, 30% magenta, 10% cyan and 5% black (its been 40 years since I was in 4-color pre-press so am a bit rusty.) 

My books from Bob were wonderfully packed (will save it for my own comic shipping) and arrived quite quickly and safely. Just the perfect size for my apartment mailbox, too! VERY easy to communicate with as well! Thanks Bob!

On 6/25/2022 at 10:01 AM, Robot Man said:

Here is a progression. I think I am happy now. 

My god that is a CLASSIC demonstration of the fugitive inks so common in Fiction House books! 

On 6/23/2022 at 7:45 PM, PeterPark said:

And with Elvis, of all people...

OMG That IS Elvis!!! As Bruce Campbell said in Army Of Darkness "Hail to the King, baby!"

On 6/23/2022 at 5:12 PM, Hap Hazard said:

Haven't seen this one, some great title blurbs on the cover.

Some blurbs all right! "I wanted fun and popularity so I joined a teen-age sex club!" I need a copy!!!

First Love #49 -  Feb 1955 - the Last of the pre-codes for this title, which continued post-code through #90 in 1963. Very Van Helsing-esque use of the mirror. Guess the guy is "Bob".

First Love #27 - 1953

Yet another trio!

First Romance #20 - 1953

The couple being discovered is a popular theme. May make a fun "genre".

Picked up a few Harveys. Really enjoying this new direction for me.

First Romance #10 - 1951. Reminds me of the scene in Attack Of The Giant Leeches just before Bruno Vesota comes upon his his wife (Yvette Vickers) and his best friend (Michael Emmet).

Wow! Thanks CGC Mike! Greatly appreciated! Here is the ST 169 PGM I was referring to. Wish the pic was still there buy Photobucket zapped them all without warning years ago!

Just got back three books earlier today. All were pressed by the premier presser and sent by them to CGC so minimal back and forth. Any light creasing or finger bends would have been taken out. A repeat of my Modern fiasco but these are all pre-1975 books so I was hoping for more care in handling. Grader notes as follows (I bolded the relevant text):

Marvel Spotlight #12 came back 8.5
Grader Notes:
light creasing to cover
light finger bends on cover
light spine stress lines to cover

Marvel Tales #1 (1964) came back 7.5
Grader Notes:
light creasing to cover
light finger bends on cover
light spine stress lines to cover

Strange Tales #169 Came back 7.5
light creasing to cover
light spine stress lines to cover

Regarding the ST 169 I had posted it in Can You Spare A Grade several years ago and the general consensus was certainly higher than 7.5. I put it in a Mylite 2 with Fullback and never touched it until I sub's it this time around. Still trying to find my PGM post but this new software search is useless and even Google Advanced Search can't find it. 

On 3/6/2022 at 1:37 PM, vaillant said:

Modena, Emilia Romagna.

Please send me a nice DOP Aceto Balsamico Tradizionale Balsamic! 

On 6/18/2022 at 2:16 PM, JRTownsend said:

Has the C&P thing become the default standard that all comics need a C&P in order to get the highest grade or does it really only help with a comic that has some slight soiling and slight creases or bends but people are just used to saying it now? I mean in my mind a perfectly clean comic with no bends shouldn't need it in order to get the highest grade. 

For many C&P is the norm before submitting to a grading service. I tend to agree with you when you said "a perfectly clean comic with no bends shouldn't need it in order to get the highest grade."

On 6/18/2022 at 6:45 AM, nDemik said:

Hello everyone,

I’m nDemik and in my mid 30’s and just started collecting less than a month ago. 
Walked into a comic book store and picked up some teen titans for my son (3rd grade) and started a convo with the store owner and he was kind enough to answer my elementary questions about comics and I ended up buying everything he had on the wall (all graded stuff he had)

my knowledge of comics started and ended with (Old comics are worth a ton!)hopefully I can continue to grow my collection and maybe down the road I’ll learn enough to possibly contribute to the community as well. 

Hi nDemik! Welcome. Just a question and a question/comment.

My question..when you said you bought out all that dealer's wall books ("all graded stuff he had") were they CGC type graded books or just books with a grade notated on a mylar?

My question/comment: from an old collector to a new buyer. First the (rhetorical) question: when you said "my knowledge of comics started and ended with (Old comics are worth a ton!)" who told you age equates to value? Do get that idea out of your head. Age itself does not make a comic valuable. Condition combined with importance, wether it be a first appearance of an important character such as Action 1, Detective 27, Tales to Astonish 27, Strange Tales 110, Fantastic Four #1 etc., an origin story, a classic cover, a first such as Eerie #1 1947 or Adventures Into the Unknown #1, specific artists or writers...these factors make a comic valuable because the demand is there.

Bottom line, demand dictates value, which accounts for the high prices being fetched by, for example, Hulk #181 with 15,658 CGC graded copies alone but an insane demand.

Anyway, I do hope you enjoy acquiring more comics and hope you can put a bit of your available $$$ into picking up some reader copies or reprints to give you a bit more insight into the characters, art, stories, genres, artists etc. Best of luck to you! 

On 6/18/2022 at 5:34 PM, CGC Mike said:

So, am I right in thinking there are 2 different issues with finger bends?  The one's that have finger bends in the graders notes didn't happen during encapsulation.  The example that @PovertyRow posted seems to have occurred during encapsulation.  

When this thread first popped up, I mentioned to the new QC manager that people were getting a lot of books that had finger bends in the graders notes, and asked him to check into the page counting step of the grading process.  I went on to say that many of these books were pressed by professionals, and in many cases, they were hand delivered to CGC.  It appears that I need to bring up the encapsulation issue as well.  I'm going to swipe the image that Pov posted, and am interested in any other comments that people have about this.  

Thanks Mike. As Joeypost mentioned above, this is not uncommon now.

On 6/18/2022 at 4:03 PM, BitterOldMan said:

Michael,

Set up a FedEx account and have them hold your package, so you can pick up at your convenience.

Missed you in Berkeley today. 🥲

Missed seeing you all as well. On my previous shipment from CGC I signed into Fedex and it said this package was not eligible for such changes. Tried going back into Fedex but my password was not working. Requested a verification code be emailed to me so I could change my password. Received none. Next requested a text be sent to me. Again nada. Now I know they have my email as I requested my username via my email an d I got it. I also have emails from Fedex and also Texts from Fedex so I know they have my phone number as well. To paraphrase Stan Lee's cameo in the first AntMan movie: "Crazy super botched!"  

(For the benefit of those who may have not seen AntMan)

On 6/18/2022 at 1:32 PM, ExNihilo said:

All my return shipping from CGC ALWAYS gets delayed.  Granted, I use the USPS Registered Mail, but I dunno what it is, the tracking will show up in some San Francisco Distribution Center for a day or two, then it'll get moved to some other location in SF for another 2 days, then it'll show as out for delivery, then back to the previous location, then out for delivery again.  It's monumentally frustrating because the time bouncing around on the truck is the most worrisome for me.  I hate that CGC doesn't give us the option to use Priority Mail.  I ship all my books via Priority Mail and all my books are delivered within two days with accurate tracking.  I get that Priority only insures up to a certain point, but from my experience, Registered Mail is not providing the advertised service.  If my package value is only $400 (well within the Priority insured rates), then just let me ship via Priority.  It's soooo much cheaper, faster, and just plain better.

Anyways, I got side-tracked.  You've still got 3 hours to hit up the Berkeley show.

I hear that. Being in SF regular Priority Mail has been excellent. Fedex not nearly so. Have yet to experience USPS Registered. Sadly since I was planning to stay home for that Fedex shipment I made a couple of online orders for Saturday delivery and they are out on the road as I type. So no show for me. To compensate even further after ordering from Robot Man's great cheap GA thread I ordered a few cool books from MCS today to help while away the time. I'll post them when I receive them.

I must have some weird karma going with submitting to CGC. So my Fedex was supposed to be Saturday, as I said, so am staying home today. I made a few online orders for Saturday delivery since I was going to be home anyway.

Now I find my CGC delivery has been rescheduled for Monday. Similar thing happened with my last Fedex CGC delivery, which is why I avoid them whenever possible. 

Remember too that water is, itself, a solvent. Just a drinkable one for us! But water can dissolve dirt on a book and, when that area dries, can leave a cleaner area with a thin accumulation of the dissolved dirt/matter forming a darker outline (the "tideline) around the area. Very common to see in books hit by water but in a new book...weird.

Yeah, I got 7 Moderns a few weeks back with bends and dents. They were pressed by a premier presser and then submitted by them. One of the greatest offenses was a Spotlight #32 that the entire bottom was filled with bends due to how the book was encapsulated. Releasing it from the slab removed the bends and revealed a nice smooth bottom edge and that the ugliness was indeed caused by CGC.

I am expecting three pre-1975 books today and pray they are being looked at by a more experienced group of individuals.