RockMyAmadeus

I keep forgetting that you are old enough to have courted the younger sisters of Ditch's conquests. I still have my red vinyl, Canadian import copy of Hemispheres. Anthem label. Also, I have no idea what this is but it sounds old. I also have no idea what any of that means, except that it involves a record of some sort, from Canada. That's it.

I keep forgetting that you are old enough to have courted the younger sisters of Ditch's conquests. So are you. And courted...? Nice nomenclature, Jedidiah. Dost thou wish to take yon motorized carriage for a repast in the village inne?

Yes it is. Definitely not a surprise at all. (thumbs u -J. Of course, that's the end of the story, and must be very satisfying for you. The great ASM 361 first/second print debate is over, and you are the winner. Don't tell him that! He won't understand that you're being sarcastic, and he'll repeat it as his own in a few months.

You should make a Kickstarter to ® your ™, so no one else can use it.

Yes it is. Definitely not a surprise at all. (thumbs u -J. When ASM 361 2nd print came out, I recalled the print run was around 50,000. Do you have any documentation for this? It would be nice to have that sourced. Thanks! Back in the 1990's, it was rumored (or from the information passed to me) that the Marvel gold and silver 2nd printings had a print run between 50-100K. The ASM 361 definitely had a smaller print run compared to the others 2nd prints. But no documentation, or contemporaneous information, huh...? I don't doubt you, I'd just like to have documented proof. It's like the much bandied about 10,000 print run for the Spidey UPC Gold. That was the number given out at the time, but does anyone have any proof? Like for the 35 centers, at least we have Sol Brodsky's letter, to peg them at about 1500 copies.

Not trying to be a downer here, I just try to be realistic. Obviously what you say is true about the rarity and difficulty of getting a nice set like this. The problem I see here is, it actually IS just like throwing gobs of money at Spidey in this situation. Throw out huge $$$ for a black hole 4 in 9.8 and you are golden, and then... The man who has collected some of the rarest comics in history is slow selling HG upgrades to one person who is willing to put up the cash, while locking anyone else out of those books as part of the agreement. I'm just not that impressed with this. I give it a big Hate to say it but this is life. I used to get really annoyed about dealers who allow other dealers to go through con stock before the public gets a shot at it when the doors open. You may not like it but it's not going to change. Stuff like this has been going on in the collectibles fields for decades. I normally don't respond to Silverdream, but since you did, I'll add my two cents: what he doesn't understand is that, no, you cannot just "throw money" and make a 9.8 set of the 3-packs, because most of them don't exist in 9.8. Most of them don't exist in 9.6. Some of them are represented by 5-10-15 known copies, in all grades. The same cannot be said of the same era of Spiderman, ALL of which are represented by 9.8s, in multiples. There isn't a single regular Amazing Spiderman issue that exists that has less than 1,000 copies extant. Not a single one. And that number is likely actually 10,000+. So, no, it actually is NOT like "throwing gobs of money at Spidey." So she's buying Doug Sulipa's set...so? What if there's one that Doug doesn't have? What if someone else DOES, and they're not selling? Or, simply, what if the book doesn't exist in the grade sought? All the money in the world won't resolve that problem. And, if you want access to particular stock, the answer is simple: put up the money. If you won't, or can't, oh well. I can't. More power to Bonnie that she can, and will. Good for her. I sold her one of the books for her set, and I was happy to do it.

Yes it is. Definitely not a surprise at all. (thumbs u -J. When ASM 361 2nd print came out, I recalled the print run was around 50,000. Do you have any documentation for this? It would be nice to have that sourced. Thanks!

Many, many, many years ago I bought a too-good-to-be-true lot of baseball cards through Yahoo Auctions (told you it was many years ago) and the seller required payment via MO. Being young and stupid I sent a $400 MO and I'm still waiting for my cards to arrive. That was the first and last time I didn't use Paypal. I got taken in 1999 for a set of Primer #2 and Grendel #1-3, all signed. $180 money order sent. I'm still waiting. Then I bought a set of every Valiant/Acclaim comic ever published (except Unity #0 Red) from Joe Petrilak in 1999. I've never gotten everything, but I settled (and I do mean settled) in around 2007.

That would end up killing the snake. Seems kinda cruel.

I used to think that their house was literally in the MIDDLE of the street, and thought..."wouldn't that just interfere with traffic....?" Ugggh. The Unfunny Subforum. Sponsored by Unfunny Ryan. I was being serious. I may be a genius. Or, I may just be a moroon.

I used to think that their house was literally in the MIDDLE of the street, and thought..."wouldn't that just interfere with traffic....?"

The subforums would be "I was just joking when you called me out for my behavior." and "The fanny rubber/sychophant everyone gets along" subforum. Also the "sub-forum for redundancy sub-forum."

Watched.

That is awesome. Now I need to purchase a car with a rear wiper.

I didn't need to watch that. That was awesome. And horrifying. And awesome. There are some SUPER freaky videos of bugs taking up residence in the human body. Especially the botflies. I've learned not to click on those. Also, do not click on anything with boil and drain in the title. The botfly vids are most impressive. My stomach clenches every single time. I forgot how to quote.

I didn't need to watch that. That was awesome. And horrifying. And awesome. There are some SUPER freaky videos of bugs taking up residence in the human body. Especially the botflies.

If you changed your underwear more than once a week, it wouldn't.

Spidey #238 75 cents is the clear winner (for the moment.) I don't know about that - a Swamp Thing 37 95 center would do extremely well in this market right now, as would a 75 cent New Teen Titans 2. Yeah, ST #37 makes a pretty fair answer, but there is no 75 cent NTT #2. The Canadian versions didn't come about (for DC) until 1982. I knew that. I meant 44. There is a sexy 15p NTT 2. A couple of 9.8 95 cent NTT #44 have sold...not for near as much as the Spidey #238.

If you are Antman. http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-03/jf/feature/

This book is super interesting. At first there were very few copies available. Price is high. Then a big sale in 2008 (along with the mainstreaming of pressing) brings out many copies. 2-3 years later the price completely tanks. Then, starting in 2012, the price cranks up again. It is a very interesting sales analysis for a non-key book. GPA summary (Year, # of sales recorded, price) 2006 (1) $689 2007 (1) $970 2008 (2) $495, $1320 2009 (21) $203-$1001 2010 (18) $125-$500 2011 (5) $99-$241 2012 (5) $250-$320 2013 (5) $400-$875 2014 (7) $592-$1283 I was in the trenches with Copper books for all these years, plain and simple - the economy tanked. The Economy recovered at the same time collecting Copper became one of the cool things to do. Maybe it was just new blood. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Tom, I have no doubt that played a part in it. I had some High Bronze in a 2009 C-Link auction, and several of them would have been GPA lows by a factor of 60-70%. Now that was a tank-fest. But there is ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION in my mind that the boom in supply was a large part of it as well. What I find interesting is that other monster boom books (Transformers 1, GI Joe 21 etc.) have not had the second rise that this book has. Yes an increase in available copies due to pressing, Heritage jumped into the game as they liquidated a warehouse collection deep with multiple copies. The ASM McFarlane run has garnered enough new set collectors to outpace the supply. The supply seems to be ramping up again. Other titles have just stabilized and have a consistent value over a raw high grade copies. Except that for *this* particular book...as people have pointed out for quite some time...is quite a bit tougher in 9.8 than the rest of the books, for a variety of reasons already discussed. Despite monstrous prices, the rush to 9.8 has slowed to a trickle... This book does stand on its own legs, very hard to find in 9.8. I actually think its the most difficult to find of the entire McSpidy run regardless of condition. Combine with a cool cover that looks like 300 and you get a perfect storm for a wild price spike in 9.8. I have only had two 9.8's and they were both early 2009. I've had four, and I had the $735 sale after your $1001 sale. Then, I gave away the other three for $250 each.

How dreadful. However did you manage...?

Here's something that's cool: Can hit so fast and so hard, it creates cavitation bubbles in the water, which collapses and creates heat AND light. Unbelievable. And it'll mess you UP.

I was going to post pictures of a Cyclopian baby, but that would be too much for this board to handle, I imagine. Quite frightening. Will keep you up for days.

This book is super interesting. At first there were very few copies available. Price is high. Then a big sale in 2008 (along with the mainstreaming of pressing) brings out many copies. 2-3 years later the price completely tanks. Then, starting in 2012, the price cranks up again. It is a very interesting sales analysis for a non-key book. GPA summary (Year, # of sales recorded, price) 2006 (1) $689 2007 (1) $970 2008 (2) $495, $1320 2009 (21) $203-$1001 2010 (18) $125-$500 2011 (5) $99-$241 2012 (5) $250-$320 2013 (5) $400-$875 2014 (7) $592-$1283 I was in the trenches with Copper books for all these years, plain and simple - the economy tanked. The Economy recovered at the same time collecting Copper became one of the cool things to do. Maybe it was just new blood. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Tom, I have no doubt that played a part in it. I had some High Bronze in a 2009 C-Link auction, and several of them would have been GPA lows by a factor of 60-70%. Now that was a tank-fest. But there is ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION in my mind that the boom in supply was a large part of it as well. What I find interesting is that other monster boom books (Transformers 1, GI Joe 21 etc.) have not had the second rise that this book has. Yes an increase in available copies due to pressing, Heritage jumped into the game as they liquidated a warehouse collection deep with multiple copies. The ASM McFarlane run has garnered enough new set collectors to outpace the supply. The supply seems to be ramping up again. Other titles have just stabilized and have a consistent value over a raw high grade copies. Except that for *this* particular book...as people have pointed out for quite some time...is quite a bit tougher in 9.8 than the rest of the books, for a variety of reasons already discussed. Despite monstrous prices, the rush to 9.8 has slowed to a trickle...

Spidey #238 75 cents is the clear winner (for the moment.) I don't know about that - a Swamp Thing 37 95 center would do extremely well in this market right now, as would a 75 cent New Teen Titans 2. Yeah, ST #37 makes a pretty fair answer, but there is no 75 cent NTT #2. The Canadian versions didn't come about (for DC) until 1982.