ChillMan

On 12/3/2023 at 9:22 PM, szav said:

I'll see you one Green Lama and raise you a Masked Marvel.  I don't understand it, is he breaking out of an old folks home where his sisters are the nurses...and he's throwing his cousin the accountant into his twin brother mobster who just happened to be there at the time?

I brought some strange old comic...I still remember it was Vol 2 #7....first appearance of the Masked Marvel.  I bought it when the Billy Wright collection went up for auction.  9.4.

The one I liked better (and also have since sold) was Crack Comics #43 Church....HERE COMES CAPTAIN TRIUMPH !!  The Gerber Photo journal shows him headlining the covers from 1943-1949.  And he has all of Superman's powers plus invisibility.

Aquaman

The media trashes him...outright lies LOL.  Like his movie is so bad that everyone walked out of the test screenings.

They said Flash was the best movie of all time...the test screening audience gave a 5 minute standing ovation.  And Blue Beetle is the heart & soul of the new DCU.  While Aquaman 2 is irrelevant.

Even CGC says the only comic-book movie in December is Wonka.  And they deleted their Comics General - Movies section.

On 11/13/2023 at 8:13 PM, Dr. Love said:

+ to infinity and beyond

So I'm wrong in saying this item is interesting and has potential ?

On 10/30/2023 at 4:42 PM, paperheart said:

define 'chance'

Critical success: highly doubtful given leaks around test screenings

Int'l BO: can it remotely replicate the $300M from China?

US BO success: 'market' seems to think total will be somewhat above 1/2 the first one

 

 

 

If I had to guess....I'd say $1.4B.

On 11/13/2023 at 8:09 PM, szav said:

I commend your repeated efforts to single handedly will this market into existence....go ahead, show us the Whitney Houston again and whoever else you might have come up with, or dug up or whatever.  Truly I admire this sort of entrepreneurial spirit to make something out of this and hope you profit hugely from it some day.  If it doesn't work out, try digging up celebrities' bones and selling them as religious relics. 

On 11/13/2023 at 11:51 AM, Patriot6 said:

Weirdly, I think in the coming years with explosion of AI that people will have much more free time on their hands. I think a weird genre of collectibles that is set to explode is vintage working appliances, minor appliances, sewing machines etc. I used to renovate houses and once pulled a pair of GE appliances from one kitchen. A range and an oven that is installed into the wall. Both were from 1958. This was in about 2008 or so. I sold both to a guy who collected vintage appliances. He was showing me pictures of a storage unit packed with the stuff. These were pretty minty mind you, but I was happy to take $350 for the pair. He later returned and bought the vintage microwave for $100. I was going to throw them away when someone had said there are people out there looking for those. 

 

The reason I think these items will become more and more desirable and expensive is because with more free time, like we saw with the pandy, people will be using these things daily if not every other day. These machines are built with 100 percent replaceable parts. The parts are extremely cheap. They are available en mass. The designs are extremely simple and well designed. They will run until the end of time. Take a sewing machine for example. You can keep a 20s Singer going for all of time. Every part can be replaced and the machine is so simple that anyone can fix it. Now there were a lot of sewing machines out there, this is true. But they have been getting scrapped en mass since the mid 90s and that is when something starts to uptick. 

I would never have believed it either, but my wife and I bought a house with old appliances in it, ironically a range and wall stove from 1958. They were original to the house. The oven looks like the back of a Cadillac. They are in mint condition from the original owner. We had every intention of tearing them out and selling them to someone like the guy I had mentioned above and going new. We started using them in the interim and I will never ever get rid of them no matter what. All of our friends are constantly complaining about their Samsung stoves and LG ovens and the modern Chinese made GE stuff that breaks down every 30 seconds. Meanwhile, I've replaced one heating coil for a total of thirteen dollars since we've lived here. They look great, all metal and chrome. Everyone asks about them when they come over. Boiling water takes very little time because the coils get so hot instantly. The oven gets to and holds temperature fast and well. I also like to cook with cast iron and this set up suits me well. What I'm getting at is that these things don't break down very much and are cheap to keep going. They are suited to a more 'commercial' use than modern day equivalents by which I mean that someone can use these things everyday where as the modern counterpart will not be able to be used the same way and will fail relatively quickly with heavier use. 

Will any of these items hit a million dollars? Absolutely not, but there is a nascent, although niche, collectible market for them and this is the bottom!

My odd take anyway.

Excellent post.

It's not for sure...but this thread is about giving ourselves a chance to hit big.

This post brought back the memory of the green sewing-machine my mom had in my room when I was about 5 I think.  It folded down so as to be a normal table.  I was fascinated by how complex it was.

Can these items be acquired now in MINT condition??

On 11/13/2023 at 5:15 AM, s-man said:

You could try lottery tickets, $100,000 buys a lot of 'em! 

99% of 'practical opinion' is like this.

But this thread is for those who want to give themselves a chance to hit big.

On 11/13/2023 at 3:13 AM, Cat-Man_America said:

10 to 40 years is difficult to predict in the $1M to $20M range, but some comics other than the usual suspects might achieve it. Pulps will probably increase in value exponentially over the next 10 years (especially with third party grading) ...not into the multi-million dollar range though.  That said, unique cover art associated with an energized pulp market by well known artists (beyond GGA and horror covers) has possibilities.

GA Comics will continue to expand in value especially easier to obtain lines only given marginal interest now.  Some characters may start sharing first appearance importance of Superman and Batman rarified values, but only those with strong media tie-in interest if that media interest is ever generated. Stage costumes worn by pop stars may reach that $1M to $20M if sufficient interest is generated by younger fans. Rare guitars and stage played instruments is already a popular commodity ...even dropped mics (lol) might become a hot item.

Elon Musk memorabilia has potential (X marks the spot), but I predict collectable red gimme caps will drop off dramatically, ...into landfills. 

Dropped mics is thinking ahead.  But everyone already knows about stage worn items.  And pulps...unless it's an extremely underrated character.

I'm talking about predicting what no one talks about now...but should be.

On 11/13/2023 at 2:40 AM, Tri-ColorBrian said:

Ah, you DO have a sense of humor.  Go back and read my original post and see if you can get the humor this time...

At first...when I read your original post...it was only the words.  The photo didn't pop up until later.

I love John Wayne.  I went triple my maximum price but still got out-bid for his drivers license.  My point is...yeah Roy Rogers looking like that might have gotten me suspended outta here if I said how he looks LOL.

On 11/13/2023 at 2:26 AM, Tri-ColorBrian said:

I did...I just don't know how to find current drivers licenses of people who are going to die...

Start with Google.

And there are lots of auctions of stuff of celebrities who have already died.  They won't sell their drivers license before they die LOL.

On 11/13/2023 at 2:24 AM, Tri-ColorBrian said:

As comic genres and individual issues get more and more expensive, I think most collectors will just keep grabbing cheap stuff until it rises in value also.  Those who have the means will always drive the value of certain expensive comics farther and farther into the stratosphere, but many collectors will rediscover the lesser collected (cheap) books...like Archie, Westerns, Four-color, etc.  I would suggest you start grabbing high grade Roy Rogers now...while you still can...

Buying the lesser things of well established things isn't predicting ahead.

For comics...I'd predict that cameos & ad-appearances...pre-1st-appearances...are undervalued.

On 11/13/2023 at 2:24 AM, Tri-ColorBrian said:

As comic genres and individual issues get more and more expensive, I think most collectors will just keep grabbing cheap stuff until it rises in value also.  Those who have the means will always drive the value of certain expensive comics farther and farther into the stratosphere, but many collectors will rediscover the lesser collected (cheap) books...like Archie, Westerns, Four-color, etc.  I would suggest you start grabbing high grade Roy Rogers now...while you still can...

We posted at the exact same time.  Read my above ^^^ post please.

I predict that current-valid drivers licenses & passports of celebrities who passed away will in 10-40 years become the 'rookie cards PSA 10' of celebrities.

How many of us looked at the Baseball Card Price Guides from the 1950's to the 1980's and thought we'll make a fortune by buying stacks of 50 rookie cards...Puckett, Bonds, Clemens...oh, remember that McGuire Team USA rookie...Canseco...I had stacks of Gwynn, Boggs...I had rookies of a hundred HOF'ers from even the old days - 50's through 70's.

But I wasn't thinking ahead intelligently.  It all turned-out to be worthless.  Intelligent would have been to contact PSA and buy graded 10 rookies.

At least I did switch to GA comics...in time to make a good move or 2.  In business...you only have to predict something right once.  But you can't just say what everyone else is saying.

Not just comics.  Things that no one talks about now.  These items exist.

But this tread is for 1 thing and 1 thing only.

Predictions on what will skyrocket in value in 10-40 years.  Like that can be acquired now for $5000-$100,000 but HAS A CHANCE to be worth $1,000,000-$20,000,000 in 10 to 40 years.

On 11/12/2023 at 10:53 AM, zen514 said:

Hindsight is 20/20 🤣

 

Yes.

I was writing a comment on this...but I deleted it...because this topic deserves a tread of it's own.  Which I'm posting now...

On 10/10/2023 at 6:26 PM, Bosco685 said:

 

Lies.

The waken will be left in the wake.

Not to rant...but it's so easy to show that the media is LYING.

Aquaman 1 got over $800M overseas.  Audiences overseas OBVIOUSLY don't care about Amber Heard...and OBVIOUSLY don't care about the DCEU...they don't even know who Amber Heard is, let alone James Gunn or Peter Safran.  So ridiculous.  Absurd.

I told you right on here that The Flash would flop...right in the midst of it being hailed as the greatest superhero movie of all time.

So people...it's all good...if I'm wrong I'll eat crow...but for fun, let's hear some realistic non-media-propaganda Aquaman 2 box-office predictions...........

5-minute standing-ovation for Flash...people walking out of Aquaman 2...Lobo above Aquaman...Harley Quinn & egg sandwiches so awesome...Wonder Woman #1...Shazam a success...Black Adam a game-changer...Blue Beetle so original and breaking barriers...

Mary Poppins too much for Aquaman...

It's all LIES.  But everyone believes it.

On 9/15/2023 at 4:37 AM, Bosco685 said:

 

The media is so ridiculously over-the-top spreading anti-Aquaman propaganda.

And people who watch the 'news' believe everything they're spoon-fed.  This will never change.

The general population fortunately doesn't watch much 'news'.

AQUAMAN 2  training...

On 6/14/2023 at 10:58 AM, Dr. Balls said:

 

At first, he said WW was banned in China...which I showed is untrue.

And that's the only thing that matters.  Lebanon, Tunisia, Kuwait, & Qatar don't matter to the box-office.

On 6/13/2023 at 7:40 PM, Bosco685 said:

It was banned in 14 countries due to Gadot's Israeli military service and underperformed in male-dominated countries (China, India, Russia). Russian critics even wrote how ridiculous it was have a massively strong female lead.

Other than that - it had a fair shot.

LOL stop lying.  Not only wasn't WW banned anywhere...but it was given ridiculously fawning lying media backside-smooching praise.

And now, predictably, the media is saying that Aquaman 2 is terrible LOL.

On 5/30/2023 at 3:21 AM, Bosco685 said:

"They" are probably even happier since it exceeded $800M though multiple countries banned the movie due to an Israeli lead actress and underperforming in patriarchal countries (Russia, India, China).

Yes, WW 1 was about $818M worldwide.  And it had a fair shake...it was released everywhere.  $89M in China.

Normally I don't trust China.  But for US superhero movies...I'd trust them more than I'd trust the USA media.

WW 1984 was $38.5M in China and $169.6M worldwide.  It would look too overly ridiculous if the US media said it was a blockbuster here.

Aquaman was $335M US (at least, probably much more)...$298M China...and $1.15B worldwide.