Garystar

Took longer Than I thought. 1 hour 7 minutes. 
 

I will be starting at 15.00 gmt.

Posted my Alan Class collection in another thread; link didn’t quite work, my pics on page 210  

1 hour ago, Get Marwood & I said:

Have them pesky kids gone yet Gary? 

Having some restorations on their house so have to stay with us a few days more. Nice to have them with us but bedlam accompanies them. Will have a go at jigsaw when gone. 

9 hours ago, FoggyNelson said:

I feel like getting a superhero puzzle now😷😷👍 to do next winter ☝️👍👍a hard 500 piece one ‼️✅

If you want a hard puzzle the third- eye black light ones are really tough to do, take hours/days. Unfortunately they are expensive, no Ross Andru art but several Kirby and the BWS Conan one is a thing of beauty. 

I’ve started to look at distribution dates of the two issue gap and doesn’t appear anything clean cut, supporting Malacoda view that there was a continuous supply of UKPVs albeit a gap in each title. I’ll finish and post when I have chance (grand kids still here). 

You were lucky, we lived in a paper bag in middle o road....

I also remember 1973/1974 picking up water damaged Marvels - these were always cents and quite often were issues otherwise Not Distributed. A few I can recall getting - cap america #150, kull #6, Spider-Man #105 and 121 (I still have the 121). 

8 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said:

Could that six months comprise 3 months shipping (which has been mentioned many times) and, perhaps, 3 months in the US because the books were unsold returns? Or, does the fact that these were the last books in the UKPV hiatus have something to do with it?

However the following month marvels were UKPV which wouldn’t have been returns and could have been shipped direct to UK (say three months). If the ones in the film were 6 months behind then there could have been he next  three months of UKPVs already on sale before them?  

Well found. I recorded film but haven’t watched yet. 

42 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said:

I've searched some archive sites for the Daily Mirror in question - "Peace bid by the Commonwealth" appears to be the lead cover blurb - but so far have drawn a blank. If we can identify that newspaper date, then we motoring.

A quick google shows there was a meeting of commonwealth countries on 17 June 1965,  a peace initiative relating to Vietnam war - the headline could be relating to this. 

On 4/15/2021 at 7:04 PM, Malacoda said:

Amazing Adventures,  Conan, FF & Where Monsters Dwell were 6p
ASM, Avengers, DD, Hulk, Subby & Thor were 8p. 
Astonishing Tales, Cap, Iron Man were non-distributed
Xmen had already gone into GS cover stamped reprints, so they’re no help.

So I don’t think there’s a pattern there, I think it was just a massive cokc up.

If we look at release dates rather than cover dates there is a pattern;

Looks like they began printing with the more logical 8p and then perhaps a marketing decision to sell at 6p - hence later ones printed at 6p and earlier ones stickered.

15 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said:

My Mum and sister will take their goes in the week then I'll pick it up next Friday and have a timed go the at weekend. @Garystar is going to time his own copy - Gary - post your results when you're done mate (with a pic of the completed puzzle if you can).

Will do, although grandkids have to stop with us a few days so if I start now it will take me until they leave. 

14 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said:

• Stevie
• Jackie
• Garie
• Reggie

Sounds like the members of a pop group

If only we knew a band with four members whose names all ended in syllable “ee”. Could even be greatest band in the world. 
Hey ho it will come to me. 
 

5 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said:

The one on the left looks familiar but I've no idea about the image sources for the other two 

The one in middle is reworking cover #137, one on right cover #130. 

1 hour ago, Get Marwood & I said:

Gary - you a jigsaw man?

Why would I want a jigsaw - they’re for kids!

I think there is some more Ross Andru Spider-Man in with this lot. 
The third eye ones are spectacular and you would measure time to do these in days, unfortunately I only have the three. 
I already have the swinging Spider-Man one - I’ll time myself and post the results. 

Love seeing the images of FF #111. This was one of the very first comics in my collection and despite having a couple of nice copies in my collection its an issue I can't resist buying again from time to time and then selling donating proceeds to charity. Captain America #123 is another one.

58 minutes ago, Malacoda said:

Do you have July 71 issues (or later) with ink stamps? I don’t think it disproves my June date unless there’s a load of them .  

Yes, there are several with July 1971 stamps (not my comics images taken on-line);

However when you look at release dates (from MikesAmazingWorld), as opposed to cover dates, the ones with stamps are those released on or previous to 13/4/971. Issues after 13/4/71 eg Avengers 90, Daredevil 78, FF 112, don't appear to have stamped issues so I think your theory holds up albeit with actual release dates rather than cover dates. I have not found any issues after July 1971 with stamps.

When distribution of Marvels became more structured in August 1974 distribution appears to be based strictly on cover date rather than US release dates - all August cover dated issues were on sale in August, September in September ....... from World Distributors or they weren't distributed at all.

Could be and just because it was copyright in 1977 could have been released later but gives ball park and ties in with your google search. 

Yes, thanks both for this info, very illuminating, a couple of mine have price punched out and one clipped, good to know this is part of the distribution process and not some kid mutilating them.

On the downside until this thread started I thought I had all the Marvel ones, I now know there are $1.49 issues, blank price issues, punched issues, $1.99 stickered issues, clipped issues, Peter Pan re-issues and on top of that one of my Spider-Man LPs is lost. 

8 hours ago, Malacoda said:

but we know that there are inkstamps and UKPV's for the same issue in other places.  It would be interesting to know what causes this inasmuch as  it might offer some clues to other things. One of them, I believe, marks the changeover point between T&P and World.

I noticed this phenomenon looking at T&P stamps on Marvels and surmised either;

In April 1969 UKPVs restarted (after a year and half gap when only T&P stamps appeared) at 1/- price, however unlike previous periods of UKPVs there is an abundance of stamped copies also. I speculated either;

·       1)  There were reduced numbers of UKPVs which meant T&P needed to fill the gap with stamped cents copies

·         2) Demand had increased to the extent that T&P needed more supply

·        3)  World Distributors had taken over distribution of UKPVs and T&P stamps were in competition? (I can’t find when World Distributors took over from Thorpe and Porter).

From restart of UKPVs in April 1969 for around 6 months 1-9 stamping continues albeit in a ratherrandom way, then all stamps become number 3. For one month, August 1970, the stamp becomes “5p/1/-“ and thereafter all stamps are T&P – ampersand rather than a number. The last stamp I can find is July 1971. From here on in Marvels are either UKPV or they are non-distributed – no more stamps.

From April 1969 onwards I found no instances of MAJOR TITLES (Avengers, Daredevil, Spidey, FF etc) with a T&P stamp which didn’t exist as a UKPV. However lesser titles such as Peter The Little Pest (posted) Kull, Kid Colt do appear as T&P stamps where no UKPV exists. There might be something in this I’ll have a ponder.

I would like to add something insightful however all day tomorrow I will now be watching The Vampire Lovers. 

10 hours ago, Spider-Variant said:

Nice Steve.  I've never seen that puzzle.  I love stuff like this.  Does it have a year when it was produced on the box?

As Marwood says no date on the box however the hulk, ref 7826 and FF  ref 7827, are copyright 1977. Spider-Man is reference 7718, a lower reference, so wouldn’t that indicate an earlier release?

1 hour ago, Get Marwood & I said:

In theory, although not always in practice, the copies in the film photo should have 9d T&P price stamps on them. I can't quite see them though...

Avengers #18 looks like the only one where it would be possible to see the stamp (10d). This should be above Hawkeye's head where there is a round mirror(?) and arrow going through, looks like there may be something there but my eyes/computer not good enough to say for certain.

Only ever saw spinner racks when I was in the third form.