LordRahl

Are they high grade?

Basically everything is 9.4 (mostly 9.6 and 9.8) and above with maybe 10 books in the 8.0-9.4 range

As a customer, I don't want grading that is too tight or too loose. I want grading that is consistent and correct.

 

The grading coming out of CGC right now is brutal.

 

 

This. A hundred times this. Not sure I've ever complained about grading. I've missed stuff. But I have 2 subs done without a prescreen because I figured every book at least a 9.6, with most a 9.8. Most are 9.6 with a couple 9.4s and 9.2s. I can't imagine what a 9.9 looks like now. The requirements for a 9.8 have gone up substantially.

 

I'm actually, glad to hear about the tight grading. As a buyer, I am now getting what I pay for. I think CGC went terribly soft a few years ago and it influenced our personal grading. We starting grading soft also. Now, CGC has finally tightened up. Maybe a 9.8 will now look like a near flawless book, this is the way it should be. Kudos to CGC !!! Tight grading is good for the hobby.

 

Tight or loose, just be consistent. Right now, they're not consistent. I'm still talking about nearly flawless books or else I wouldn't sub them without a prescreen if it mattered. I'm not just talking sour grapes here.

I'm not seeing it. I just got the grades for 5 submissions. Something around 75 books. My grades were dead on or under what CGC gave it on all but 4-5 books

I think you are confusing popular/in demand with key. Just because a book has a cool cover and people pony up a lot of money to buy it does not mean the book is important in any way beyond having a cool cover. A cool cover does not equal key.

 

I think that once you start referring to classic covers as "key" it makes any sort of agreement on the definition of what constitutes a key much harder to come by. But...people do it all the time:

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4782132&fpart=1

 

Personally, I'm fine with the words notable or important or breathtaking being used in lieu of "key" every now and again.

I think most people in the hobby equate a key with some level of importance of a book. Hence the level of key. First appearance of a major character = top level key, first appearance of a B level character = minor key or some such. Sure there are variances in each individuals definition of key however the hobby as a whole has some consensus on the fact that a key features some sort of important event (1st app, death of, team up, whatever). I don't think anyone can argue with a straight face that Batman 227 is important in any way, shape or form. It ISN'T... at all. It's just a cool cover that happens to be hot right now. In 20 years it might not be and then the book has nothing going for it. Hulk 181 however will always be the 1st app of a major character and therefore a key even if it isn't popular for a time.

I got Showcase 30 a long time ago. Have always thought of it as a key.

Movie, schmoovie, I couldn't care less.

There is no retcon, there is no bamboozling, not towards me. Sorry.

 

Congrats..?

 

No sure what this has to do with anything?

 

I was trying to reply to your other post, but it is now dust in the wind. Probably for the best, since you don't want such silliness leaving a stain on your posting legacy.

 

Anyway, you were searching for consensus. That's easy. Collectors have spoken with their wallets, and Showcase #30 is, at the very least, a minor key.

 

Why is Hulk #181 considered a more important key than #180? Money. That's the consensus. Sure, there are specific reasons that people used when the majority chose #181. They are the opposite reasons people used when they decided on the key Doomsday and Darkseid appearances. The consensus is often arbitrary. Why is Batman #227 considered a key? Batman #251? How about a Hulk vs. Thor battle from 1973, nearly a decade after they first fought? None of these feature a first appearance of note. Yet they all command a premium.

 

So what is our clearest indicator of what collectors consider to be key? How they choose to spend their money.

 

This consensus you seek doesn't really help your argument.

 

So what else is heating up on eBay besides the white hot juggernaut that is Showcase #30? Are the still affordable Dr. Strange books about to get another bump as more movie info is made available?

 

 

 

I think you are confusing popular/in demand with key. Just because a book has a cool cover and people pony up a lot of money to buy it does not mean the book is important in any way beyond having a cool cover. A cool cover does not equal key.

Can anyone explain why DC Super Stars 17 sells for more than All Star 69? Census numbers in 9.6 and 9.4 would favor All Star in terms of fewer available. Came out the same week I believe and CGC actually lists All Star as the 1st appearance yet it sells for less than DC SS

Current TAT on modern FT is now 25 business days.

 

Pretty bad when FT is slower than the listed TAT for non-FT.

Between this and what I'm hearing about CGC hammering books now for defects that they were more lenient on in the past... Voldemort here I come.

"Tight" is good. Consistently tight would be better. They have had some periods that were PGX like in terms of grading.

TATs updated on the website on 4/23. The ones most people care about:

 

Modern* 55 business days 20 business days

Modern Fast Track* 25 business days 10 business days (Up from 20)

Economy 75 business days 40 business days

Economy Fast Track 35 business days 20 business days

Value 75 business days 40 business days

Value Fast Track 35 business days 20 business days

And here I was hoping Voldemort would actually alleviate some of this

Anyone got a Modern Fast Track in beginning of April? CGC received my order on 4/10.

 

thanks (thumbs u

3/31 MFT Graded as of yesterday

At the CGC booth over the weekend I asked

 

CGC modern was 2.5 months door-to-door

CCS modern pressing was around 3 months.

 

Yeah they lied to you. I'm at 2 and a half months right now and still sitting at Graded

 

Maybe she meant business days?

 

I actually just GOT a submission back that was exactly 2.5 months door-to-door.

Then I'm getting the shaft. 4 modern invoices submitted 2/10 sitting at Graded. Granted that is 3-4 days shy of 2.5 months but since they still haven't gone through QC, I won't see them for probably a couple of more weeks

At the CGC booth over the weekend I asked

 

CGC modern was 2.5 months door-to-door

CCS modern pressing was around 3 months.

Yeah they lied to you. I'm at 2 and a half months right now and still sitting at Graded

Just bought a couple of Spidey slabs from Tom. Shipped fast and well packed and beautiful books for the grade

Thanks again Tom!

He's too busy making dumb insurance commercials to notice.

 

And coming up small in crunch time in the big games........

Oh yeah. He is clearly the one to blame for that meltdown last year

Some highlights from my MegaCon onsite submissions...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn Andy that is an impressive submission

One of, if not my top Bronze cover.

Would have shelled out what this would have gone for a couple of years ago. Alas with the movie hype I guess I will have to continue to settle for my 9.6

So they casted a girl who is completely Asian to play a character that is Chinese-American (Jubilee).

 

And they casted a girl who is Asian-American to play a character that is completely Asian. (Psylocke...with a hint of British-ness)

 

Wierd choices.

Aaaand that matters... why exactly?

It's called Comiclink

I bought an Avengers # 57 from him, he graded it VF - it arrived and was VG+ at best.

To be fair, he refunded including return shipping from the UK.

Of course he did. That is his MO. Overgrade badly and hope that the buyer either isn't good enough at grading to know the difference or too shy/lazy/whatever to go get a refund. That is how he keeps his 100% positive feedback, going back to his Robojo days this is how he always did it.

I think it's actually "Nice comic(s) " and I think it's been trademarked

And now they are using PGX to give them some measure of legitimacy of being unrestored because PGX can't tell a trimmed book from a hole in the ground

Has anybody gotten the sellers user information yet from eBay yet?

 

I actually thought you would know and was going to PM you.

 

Not yet, I'm surprised the people who bought form him have not come up with it.

His name is Ed Kelly if memory serves.

My personal opinion is don't allow auctions at all unless it is some sort of charity auction thread. But if auctions are allowed, definitely a sub forum with limitations put on it. 1 thread at a time, no more than 3 books/lots per thread.

I like the idea of limiting it to people that have a certain number of posts. I think 500 was mentioned which seems reasonable. Just not sure this can actually be automated.

It's either a DannyD front or clone. Stay away.

I got 1,000 shares of Yahoo instead. IPO at $92 is way inflated.

 

But I'd still take 100 shares of BABA over a low grade AF15...higher potential for a higher return.

 

***Clarify...Yahoo priced back during their dip a few months ago. Now even Yahoo is inflated at current price.

It IPO'd at $68

The answer is likely very dependent on your time horizon and how long you are willing to hold each.

Compare the share price of Alibaba to an AF 15 next Friday and then 6 months from now and then a year from now. Pretty sure that Alibaba will have much more significant movement, whether it be up or down.