Nick Furious

On 2/4/2024 at 7:24 PM, PovertyRow said:

you can read MTU #95 a thousand times and you will not see Mockingbird in the book.

She's on the cover.

On 2/3/2024 at 1:06 PM, Yorick said:

Did anyone suggest that this was only found because of the investigation into swap-gate?  When I know where to look for a rat, I usually find a few more...

The timeline doesn't indicate that.  CGC investigators were interviewing the accused months before the swap-gate concerns were brought up.

On 2/3/2024 at 11:04 AM, Jimmy Linguini said:

So does CGC not have cameras that cover the entire "secured facility"?

In fairness to CGC, cameras can be a proactive visual deterrent, but they are typically reactive in terms of viewing the footage.  It could have been months before a single book was even known to be missing.  It's very possible that all the books were stolen in the timeframe before even the first theft was investigated by reviewing camera footage.  

Florida Company Screws up Court Filing Accusing Florida Man of Stealing Comic Books

On 2/3/2024 at 9:58 AM, Galen130 said:

Agreed!!  Greed is a major issue these days in so many facets of our current society, from the top on down.  This isn’t a surprise that CGC is, and has been, the same in this regard.  Truly sad and disgusting…😕😕

That could be a good What If? Episode:  What if Stan Lee had lived long enough to do a CGC mail-in signing in 2021?  

On 2/2/2024 at 9:35 PM, DougC said:

I am assuming the first sentence above is the entire point of the filing. I have previously assisted with something like this in the past where the complaint filed is meant to be rejected by the court and used only to tell a one sided PR mitigating story favoring one party on public record. Civil court with all the huge financial verdicts are impotent unless the guilty party has actual property you can eventually file liens against.

The average American believes winning a civil suit mean you actually receive the financial assets of the verdict; that is rarely what happens.

Just for personal interest I do hope they refile as I was looking forward to reading all the interviews and employee statements that were to be exhibited to try and find a thread of a link between label swap guy who said they "knew someone on the inside, that was assisting them".

The part I'm that is troubling me is the (seemingly) lack of a criminal referral.  It's one thing if it's company property that was stolen.  But this property belonged to customers.  Even if they were paid out on their lost books, surely they suffered some hardship or loss through the process.  It seems to me that there would be an obligation to refer this case to law enforcement for criminal prosecution on behalf of those third parties who were affected by the alleged criminal action.  I don't see how keeping it private or contained to civil court would be an option in a case like this.  But I don't know the law. 

On 2/2/2024 at 8:39 PM, comix4fun said:

Sad about the lack of hot chicks though

That's why I'm not in favor of the cartel-style nekid graders idea.  

On 2/2/2024 at 6:53 PM, bluehorseshoe said:

You gonna get this work. EDMF.

Not a lawyer but I'm guessing from the term "shotgun pleading" that it needs to be rewritten in a more narrowly focused manner.  

On 2/2/2024 at 4:45 PM, bluehorseshoe said:

Annndddd just like that, Plaintiff's Complaint is Dismissed and Plaintiff's Motion for Restraining Order and Preliminary Injunctive Relief is Denied.

 

Life moves at you pretty fast. 

Any links to the details? 

On 2/1/2024 at 5:29 PM, solm4st3r said:

My question is whether the police are involved since the CGC employee actually admitted to stealing books worth several thousand dollars?

I think this is a fair question.  Would be good to know if a criminal complaint was filed also, or just a civil suit.  

On 2/1/2024 at 4:59 PM, Samlarn72 said:

Wow thank you fast work 

Does that look like your book?  Just curious.  

On 2/1/2024 at 4:44 PM, Iconic1s said:

Could have sworn some higher up at CGC went on some Youtube channel and said there was no CGC employee involved in swapping books 

Pure speculation on my part, but I'm guessing at the time of the interview they were still hoping to get a private settlement with the employees that would keep this from being made public in a court filing. 

Further speculation on my part; looks like the husband was working with the investigation back in October...maybe he tried to avoid implicating the wife (who is still selling on Ebay).  When her involvement was revealed, they realized that he wasn't being completely honest (it's mentioned in the court filing that they don't think he has given complete information).  A game of chicken between the accused and the CGC team took place with the accused thinking that CGC would not want to go public with a court filing.  All speculation on my part with no information beyond what everyone else knows.      

On 1/31/2024 at 6:48 PM, Topnotchman said:

Check your yellow pages for trucking companies

On 1/29/2024 at 8:35 AM, Mdesimone said:

I have tried , I call and they won’t direct me to the correct people to talk to, I have asked how will I be compensated and I get that reply, I have emailed them to call me, it’s been over a week now with nothing, why bother going on a YouTube video and state we will be compensated fairly, I am reaching the end of my patience, 

Maybe get your requests in writing formally in a polite-but-specific response to the customer service email?  Ask that person to take your request up the chain of command and get you a response.  I think that the more specific you are in your request, the more likely you would be to get action.    

On 1/29/2024 at 7:52 AM, Mdesimone said:

This is the response I get when asked how will I be compensated, because the price I paid back in 2019 is half of what it would be worth now

I don't mean to tell anyone what to do, but at this point, with receipt mentioned twice and no timeline, I think I would be responding back with my own politely worded reasonable request for compensation.  You did your part and complied quickly with their requests.  I don't think it would be unreasonable at this point to articulate some terms and conditions of your own.  Such as what you want, when you want it by and which obstacles (such as receipts) you find unacceptable.      

On 1/28/2024 at 11:19 AM, sledgehammer said:

grader's notes are  "spine stress lines break color"

I find that note interesting, considering how many times I'm seeing that exact note, on other 9.8 books on submissions that include books on the list.

That's going to become like a scarlet letter for buyers in the know.  Check the grader notes on 9.8's, stay away if it says, "spine stress lines break color".  

On 1/26/2024 at 1:33 PM, lizards2 said:

Quit wasting your GD money on comic books, son.  

It's Canadian money.  

On 1/26/2024 at 8:46 AM, comicjel said:

The scam, as we know it, is to acquire 9.8 labels with legit 9.8 books, and then get inferior books reholdered using those same 9.8 labels... So why sell the legit 9.8 book in the acquired 9.8 holder?  From the scammer's perspective, isn't that a waste of a perfectly good 9.8 label??

To me, there is an aspect of this scam that does not necessitate a book being reholdered somehow.

I think I get what you are saying.  It's possible that when the scammer bought or received a legit 9.8, he only cracked out the ones he was most comfortable could be regraded at 9.8.  The scam would lose significant value if the original 9.8 came back as 9.6 when submitted a second, third or fourth time.  

On 1/26/2024 at 5:06 AM, Gaard said:

I'm wondering to myself if it's SOP for this kind of ignoring over there, or if it was a 'perfect storm' scenario (multiple employees dropping the same ball). I've seen numerous posts by people (in the Ask CGC section) informing them of books being entered into the system with the wrong title, issue, printing, whatever. They are ALWAYS told the same thing ... it'll get fixed down the pipe. It's hit or miss if it is.

I heard a Stanford alum tell a story about having a possible heart attack on campus.  When he got to the medical center, they were very calm and not very concerned.  When he asked why they said, "you're not having a heart attack, you're having a panic attack...we see it all the time".  I think one possible explanation is that CGC customer service sees so many "panic attacks" each week that they may not take it seriously when it is an actual heart attack.  Another more likely explanation is that the system is just too complex for a customer service representative to be able to get definitive solutions to problems like this, so they create a "note" and hope that works.  

On 1/25/2024 at 3:39 PM, wiparker824 said:

Here's a fun one I stumbled across...

First image from WP/eBay sale from 7/16/23 direct edition book, direct edition label for $760. 

Second image from listing on Grailz IG account on 8/15/23 for $2999 but what's this, magically there's a newsstand book inside. Side note - my man wastes no time getting books reholdered, got to say I struggle to even get CGC to open my box in 1 month this guy bought it from eBay got it shipped to him and reholdered, then relisted thru Grailz in 1 month. Impressive. 

Third image from CGC scans on verify tool. The 2nd custom label, which hey at least it's not a Spidey custom label on an X-Men book anymore, also got CGC to "fix" his label and notate the newsstand edition this time. 

Was this book on the recall list?  

On 1/25/2024 at 10:43 AM, shadroch said:

Really. Just because there is a chance the 9.8 book you buy is a 9.4 that was switched at CGC is no reason to lose faith in the company.  The notion that the scammer gets an awful lot of notes on his 9.8 submissions compared to the general public shows how much CGC cares. It will take more than their slabs having no integrity to cause me to lose faith in them.

I agree that the unusual amount of (generic and consistent) grader notes is the most unsettling piece in this puzzle.  It doesn't fit very well into a narrative that this was just a random guy pulling one over.  The grader notes wouldn't happen at reholdering, they would happen at initial grading.  It does lead one to wonder if someone on the inside was anticipating that whatever book was inside the case down the road might come under scrutiny.  The grader notes could be designed to give some reassurances to someone in the reholder department who had any hesitations about the book they were reholding.  Also would give some reassurances to a consignment house or eventual buyer who might have concerns.  

On 1/24/2024 at 7:31 AM, kmarty009 said:

BTW - I paid 370.00 for the x-men #109. 

Ouch!  MCS has a CGC 9.4 consignment for $275 and another for $309:

X-men comic books issue 109 (mycomicshop.com)

I had this situation happen years ago with another known scammer.  When I Googled his Ebay name and found out he had a reputation, I messaged him through Ebay.  I said that I was going to let it go as a mistake, but now I see that he has a long history of this kind, and I would like him to accept the return or refund 30% of the purchase price.  After a brief back and forth and threats to take it straight to Ebay, he refunded 30% of the purchase price.  

On 1/23/2024 at 2:25 PM, Galen130 said:

Nope...said they wouldn't leave the house, had to be done there.  Plus, it would have been a two and a half-hour drive for me.

Then they failed the test, in my opinion.  If they had agreed to any public area meeting, I would have felt better about going to their house.  

Would they meet you at a public location somewhere closer to their house, so they didn't have to be gone for a long period of time?  

On 1/23/2024 at 9:09 AM, rsouxlja7 said:

Sounds like someone who sold an ASM300 on eBay in 2022 is about to have a bad day. 

If you are referring to the @Sorensen7 purchase, there is no possible way this would come back on the seller.  If Capital One reimburses, it would be an internal expense on their part.  They can't say "buyer sent item to a 3rd party who stole it, buyer wants seller to purchase price".  This would have to be just a goodwill gesture on the part of Capital One.