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Weird Paper

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    Frazetta with COA from next of kin

    in Original Comic Art

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    18 hours ago, PhilipB2k17 said:

    In fairness, that could be from the time when Frank was trying to relearn how to draw with his left hand after his first strokes. :cool:

    I don't think so. There are artistic decisions on this piece that seem wrong regardless. Also, there is a FB discussion on this piece where FF's son expresses his own doubts about it. You can buy it if you want, I'm going to hold out for that original Wonder Woman #1 cover being sold out of Turkey by a zero feedback seller.

    (attempted) Flip of the Day!

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    4 hours ago, PhilipB2k17 said:

    Well, actually, as I've discovered here, the more seasoned OA collecting vets generally stay away from eBay. 

    So, it would make sense for someone to try and flip a piece they bought on c link, on eBay, because the more serious collectors are not scrounging there  

    Abd the OA art bubble problem is not new. I'd argue that the flipping is a symptom of it, as much as a cause. THE biggest cause, IMHO, is a group of wealthy Collectors who bid up the high end pieces, which trickles down to everything else. 

    The way to avoid being burned by a bubble is to sell everything and wait it out. Or, just buy at the budget end of the spectrum.  

     

    I wouldn't stay away from ebay entirely. Somebody in this thread (not me) recently scored some sweet pages for about 3% of their (reasonable) market value. :takeit:

    (attempted) Flip of the Day!

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    16 hours ago, lobrac said:

    BWS Conan #21 page 14 sold on HA in May 2017 for $4,780

    https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/barry-smith-p-craig-russell-and-dan-adkins-conan-the-barbarian-21-page-14-original-art-marvel-1972-/a/7163-93213.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    Now $5,800

    http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1406830

    Certainly on the low side both times for a true BWS Conan page. Unfortunately the amount of BWS participation in this page can be debated.

    Has anyone ever refused to help another collector complete a book?

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    I was contacted a few months ago by somebody who was trying to complete a story. I had a double-page splash from the story, a prime example from someone I like and admire as an artist and as a very good human being. I politely declined. It was not the last page he needed to complete the story -- that would certainly weigh in his favor -- and it was my only example by this artist. I told him I'd contact him if I changed my mind, but I guess he gave up, because he was selling his pages from the story a short while after that. 

    Is it really hard to admit it ?

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    One word: Sekowsky. His figures are stiff and blocky. His faces all look the same. Ughh. But... if you grew up reading DC in the 60s, then you grew up loving his JLA. I've got multiple pieces by Frazetta, Adams, Wrightson and BWS in my collection, but my favorite piece is my JLA 21 page. It's blocky, stiff and beautiful and it drips with nostalgia... and I've always argued for quality-of-art over nostalgia as a purchasing motivator. 

    Incredible Jon Berk Collection Hits the Auction Block

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted · Edited by Weird Paper
    correction

    10 minutes ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

    So, it seems like the general line of thinking is that OA prices realized for this auction were on the upper end/ above upper end expectations.

    just wondering if the results would have been even higher if these pieces were offered on a more user-friendly auction site?

    I had no problem with the site. I do wonder, though, where the offset is between a site like CC where there is no buyer's premium or sales tax (out-of-state) and an auctioneer like Heritage with more traffic but a fee/tax bump of almost a third over the hammer price.  

    Difference between Comic Art & Transparency?

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    2 hours ago, desertdogg20061 said:

    yes. I agree it a shame how people can stoop so low to defraud the public on this so called production art.  I  just hope that ebay will put a stop to this but iam sure they don't care. as they are about making money. I once saw a guy selling covers like this at a comic show and just laughed at him and told him are you serious dude!  he just stood there silent as he knew he was busted. I shook my head and left.

    To some degree, the buyer has to take some responsibility too. If you don't educate yourself on what you think you're buying, that comes back to you. A scam requires two willing participants.

    Not to take responsibility away from the scammer, but come on. Places like Gallery on Baum managed to sell a lot of fakes to people who failed to do their own due diligence. The current crop of charlatans are probably easier to identify as a scam than the Forgers on Baum were.

    Here's a thought. Assume everything is a scam until you can prove to yourself otherwise.

    Incredible Jon Berk Collection Hits the Auction Block

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted · Edited by Weird Paper
    Typo

    1 hour ago, drdroom reborn said:

    My tracked GA lots:

    All New 7 pg 23 (Fujitani attrib; The Zebra) $803

    Cap 9 page 36 (Kirby/Shores): $14,011

    Master Comics 1 pg 1 (Newt Alfred, 1st app & origin of Master Man): $5,272

    Daredevil Comics 10 pg 4 (Bob Wood, colored by unknown): $3,433

    Hello Pal 1 pg 3 (Charles Sultan, Yankee Doodle Jones, big skull panel): $940

    Master Comics 22 pg 21 (Phil Bard, Minute Man action page): $750

    Military Comics 15 pg 15 (Crandall Blackhawk page): $3400

    Rex Dexter of Mars 1 cover recreation ( Briefer 1980): $1951

    Slam-Bang 3 pg 59 (Lee Granger, Jungle King): $702

    Smash 33 pg 62 (Alex Koda, The Marksman): $420

    Twice-Told Tales unpublished cover (Joe Kubert): $1900

    So'd you get any of them?

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    My visit to comic nirvana

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    Since the art auction was last night, I wanted to return briefly to this. When Leonardo   ... I mean Adam and I visited Jon a few years back, one of my very favorite pieces in his collection was the Joe Doolin Mars splash page from Planet Comics. If I recall correctly, it was the one of the first pieces I asked Adam about after he went to the auction preview at Metropolis. I took a shot at it last night... I put in my max bid about a half hour before the close and then put my phone down and went out to the back yard to babysit the chickens. (Not some kind of weird metaphor... we have copious hawk nests in the greenbelt behind our yard, so when we let the chickens run loose in the yard, we go out there with them, usually for about 45 minutes before dusk each night.) I figured I'd leave it in the hands of fate and wouldn't look again until after the auction ended. After the chickens retired to their coop for the night, I went inside and checked. It's been years since I've bid on CC, so when I looked at my bids/offers page and didn't see the Mars, I thought it must have been pulled. Then I realized there was another page with auction wins. There it was, at a few hundred under my max bid. My little piece of Jon's historic collection. 

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    "It's not for sale... unless the price is right"

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    13 hours ago, MrBedrock said:

    I had someone message me on CAF in regards to a Frazetta oil. They asked if it was for sale. "No, but I will certainly listen to offers." His next message was, "If you could let me know what you paid for it that would help me make an offer." I didn't think that warranted a response.

    In that case, you tell him a figure 2-3x what you paid and wait for his response...

     

    "It's not for sale... unless the price is right"

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, ParamagicFF said:

    I completely get that, and that's how I would feel as a seller as well I imagine. But the only way to know is to ask/offer. This wouldn't sour you on dealing with a potential buyer in the future would it? I know I wouldn't write someone off all together for making an offer lower than I'd like, but I'm interested in others thoughts. I just want to make sure I use some proper etiquette when going about these things. I appreciate all the feedback.

    Not at all.

    "It's not for sale... unless the price is right"

    in Original Comic Art

    Posted

    My collection is a collection. It's not inventory. If somebody asks about a piece, I tell them I'm not actively trying to sell it, but they are welcome to make an offer. I've accepted such offers before -- both cash and trade offers -- though not frequently. If that offer is market value, or "I know from auction records you paid this much, so that's what I'll offer you" forget it. Chances are, I bought it for market value, and unless I've soured on it for some reason, or deemed it no longer viable in my collection (upgrade, etc.), there's no reason other than financial desperation that I'd turn around and sell it for that.