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On 5/5/2024 at 10:29 PM, Cerebus3000 said:
Thanks Mike, thanks all, congrats all. This is also likely the only time I finish in the top three. I have to note, the last thing I did before sending in my grades this round was change the 8.0 that I had given to SS 10 down to a 7.5. Literally had 8.0 typed into my message to Mike, stared at the screen for five minutes and then made the switch. Grrr...could have been fighting for first. Very happy to be here though. I'm not conceding to @zzutak but, I am pretty sure he said his grading focus is on the older mid grade comics...I think I am in trouble.
I would have liked your post, but laughed at your graphic (carping bricks) : )
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On 5/5/2024 at 8:46 PM, CGC Mike said:
Thanks for doing this @Superman2006 It is much appreciated.
No problem!
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See below for CGC Grading Contest Awards Based on Cumulative Performance Through Contest #10 + Other miscellaneous stats through Contest #10
As usual, the cumulative CGC grading contest rankings ignore tie breaker rounds. Following are the "MVP", "Diamond Club", and "Honor Roll" award winners based on performance through the first 10 CGC grading contests (as usual, I set the qualifying requirement at 50% x total contests to date - 0.25 = 50% x 10 - 0.25 = 4.75 contests).
P.S. For anyone that isn't included on the list below (either because they haven't met the 4.75 contests requirement, or because their average score is below the cutoff): If you'd like to know your average score / rounds completed, etc., either reply in this thread if you want me to post your details here, or shoot me a PM and I'll respond via PM.
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On 5/5/2024 at 7:36 PM, Nschenks said:
Hi yes that’s me! Just adjusted my username a few weeks ago.
Thanks, buddy, and congrats on the awesome finish. It would have been good enough for Top Rookie, but as it is, it helps with your overall overage. With 4 total rounds, you're getting close to meeting the number of rounds requirement for the cumulative rankings results that I put together.
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On 5/5/2024 at 7:01 PM, CGC Mike said:
Thanks @Superman2006
Anytime! Thanks to you, Matt, and CGC for putting on another great contest!!
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Based on results of the survey I am preparing updated cumulative top 50 rankings through contest #10 now, and will release the results shortly.
@CGC Mike - As part of my updates, I also update the "Rookie of the Year" (which I should probably call "Top Rookie" since we have 4 contests per year). To that end: I am seeing what appears to be a new entrant named @Nschenks in contest #10, however, I see that there was an Nsschenks that participated in 3 prior contests. Do you know if that is the same boardie?
Is there a subforum that provides name changes that you can point me to? If so, then maybe I can reference that in order to better keep all cumulative rankings together for a given participant across all of their usernames. Presumably not too many name changes, so probably not a big deal.
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On 5/5/2024 at 6:43 PM, CGC Mike said:First place goes to @Axelrod $500 Grading Credit.
@zzutak and @Cerebus3000 will determine 2nd and 3rd place by playing a tiebreaker round. 2nd place: $250 Grading Credit and 3rd place $100 Grading Credit.
A tiebreaker round will be posted sometime this evening.
4th and 5th place goes to @apocalypse76 and @TheGeneral
6th place goes to @Ride the Tiger $500 Grading Credit donated by @Get Marwood & I
Disclaimer: If there is any disputes with my math, thinking, or anything I am missing, please feel free to post it.
Congrats to the @Axelrod @zzutak @Cerebus3000 on your top 3 finishes, and to @Ride the Tiger on winning the 6th place award donated by @Get Marwood & I!
@CGC Mike - Based on the grades posted for each participant in the version you posted for me, I came up with the same total scores for each participant in my spreadsheet, so your math looks good to me.
I'll update the cumulative top 50 rankings through contest #10 and post the results in an hour or two.
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On 5/4/2024 at 11:15 PM, Lninefingers said:
I vote now because I think I actually have enough entries now to join the list!
(although seriously, whenever is best for you - your work is super appreciated)
You are correct. I'll set the minimum contest requirement to qualify for the top 50 cumulative rankings list through contest #10 at 4.75 contests (as usual, I take total contests divided by two subtract 0.25 = 10 / 2 - 0.25 = 4.75). by completing all 4 rounds of this contest you'll have 5 total contests under your belt through contest #10.
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There were a couple of books this contest where I felt a bit disadvantaged by not having a copy of the CGC grading guide. I missed one of the two books by 1 point, but missed the other (SW #8) by 4 points!
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On 5/4/2024 at 11:00 PM, Cerebus3000 said:
That is pretty much exactly my thought process on SW 8, including considering a 7.5 and not wanting to own an 8.0 with that defect.
Of the top 20 contestants in the contest (as of round three) there were 7 bulls eyes, and 8 people within one grade. If the grade was actually 7.5 there would be 4 bulls eyes and 10 people off by one grade. If the grade was 7.0 there would be 3 bulls eyes and 5 people off by one grade. Perhaps guessing the grade on that one comic is why people are in the top twenty this round, but many of those people are consistently on the leader board. I think this shows that 8.0 was certainly a "predictable" grade per the published standards, given some tolerance for subjectivity. I really appreciated seeing that comic in this competition as a learning example, and learning is really why I am here.
@Superman2006 and/or @zzutak I would be interested in seeing some sort of comparison between the actual grades of this contest (each contest) with the average/mean/mode guessing of the cumulative top 10. I suspect the people that have a proven history of "cracking the code" will be clustered more tightly around the CGC grades, and it might dispel some comments about CGC inconsistency. Thanks for doing the reporting you already do, please feel free to ignore this suggestion.
Hi @Cerebus3000
In terms of CGC consistency/inconsistency, I did some analysis a while back, through the 6th grading contest, in an attempt to follow Aristotle's "wisdom of the crowd" concept, whereby "large groups of people are collectively smarter than individual experts...". As a result of that analysis, I found that the CGC grader(s) would have ranked 3rd overall if measured against the performance of the top 50 graders through the 6th grading contest (with an average score just 1.5 behind @jbpez and just 0.2 behind @TheGeneral through the first 6 contests). To me that is a very very impressive ranking, and within the margin of error of being the best grader out of all participants.
I could refresh that analysis through the first 10 contests if you'd like. As part of that refreshed analysis, I could provide an alternative cumulative grading test top 50 for everyone else as well, as measured against the top 50 boardies average grade per book.
I could reduce the top 50 to say the top 25, or top 10 like you suggest.
I think that would provide you with some comfort about CGC grading consistency. Individually and as a group we may occasionally disagree with the grade CGC has given a book(s) in this contest, but I for one am sure that I have "missed the mark" on some books a lot more than CGC has.
Let me know that would provide what you're looking for (if not, it's getting late and I have a headache, so that's my excuse
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On 5/4/2024 at 8:22 PM, zzutak said:
Agreed. Your effort (which is much appreciated
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Thanks, buddy, and good luck to you and all other remaining contenders for this contest, in finishing in the top 3, or picking up the generous 6th place prize offered up by @Get Marwood & I!
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On 5/4/2024 at 8:17 PM, grendelbo said:
I don't know what "crack option" is but do it at your convenience.
Back when I joined the CGC boards in 2006, it seemed like every poll had a crack option. I think it's basically an option for those that read the poll that don't really care either way. Someone else more familiar with the history or the "crack option" may be able to provide a clearer definition (or if no one else knows what I'm talking about, then maybe I'm on crack lol)
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On 4/30/2024 at 8:11 PM, jcjames said:8pts.
I KNEW that SW8 was going to be an utter crime.
I called it 6.0 for rusty staples that bleed even through from the cf to cover. Even if the rest of the book was 10 (which it wasn't), those staples and stains should never leave the midgrade range.
Horrible.
Ditto for me, 8 pts, knowing that the SW8 could kill my score. I graded it a 6.0 as well due to the horrendous looking staples / stains. I wanted to give it a 6.5 at first, but brought it down to a 6.0. I figured it would end up somewhere between a 4.0 and 8.0, so I split the difference.
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On 4/28/2024 at 7:11 PM, CGC Mike said:
@Superman2006 The spreadsheet that you can copy is now in the 3rd post of this thread. Note that Axelrod is above the score/grader/book line. Everyone should be listed. If not, let me know. I had to do some cut and pasting. near the top. It's a long story. Lol
Got it. Thanks!
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On 4/28/2024 at 6:44 PM, CGC Mike said:
If there is a tie, I may have 2 books stashed away somewhere. If there is still a tie after that, we could use this like we do to determine our 3 winners for the contest.
In the event that there is still a tie, This criteria will be used to determine the final rankings. If #1 doesn't reveal a winner, #2 will be used ect...
1) Most cumulative Bullseyes (Bullseyes in tiebreaker round count)
2) Most Books off by 1 grade
3) Most Books off by 2 grades
4) First Book in order listed to get Bullseye
5) Second Book in order listed to get Bullseye
Here are the people participating in the tiebreaker round:
That sounds great. Thanks again for all that you do Mike! You are awesome!
And thanks again to @Get Marwood & I for the generous donation, giving hope to me and others that aren't optimistic about sniffing a top 3 finish this time around!
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On 4/28/2024 at 6:55 AM, Get Marwood & I said:
Fellow participants! Last year I won the sixth contest and bagged a $500 grading credit that I'm never going to use. With Mike's blessing, I would like to offer that $500 credit to whoever comes sixth in this, current contest. Six is a favourite number of mine, if you hadn't already guessed.
So, let it be known - if you want to win some grading credits, try to come first, second, third or sixth this time.
Good luck to everyone and thanks to Mike for agreeing to the transfer
That's very generous of you, @Get Marwood & I! Given my expected results on this last round of books, I'll be lucky if I'm in a position to compete for 6th place
Following are the 6th place results from the prior contests:
C1: 4 participants tied for 3rd through 6th place.
C2: 4 participants tied for 6th through 9th place.
C3: 5 participants tied for 5th through 9th place.
C4: 2 participants tied for 6th through 7th place.
C5: 3 participants tied for 6th though 8th place.
C6: 3 participants tied for 5th through 7th place.
C7: 5 participants tied for 3rd through 7th place.
C8: 8 participants tied for 6th through 13th place.
C9: 1 participant finished alone in 6th place.
One option to settle the tie for 6th place would be to have those tied for 6th place to grade a set of tie breaker books (could use the same books that any participants that are tied for 1st, 2nd &/or 3rd use for their tie breaker), etc. Then need to decide what to do from there, such as giving the 6th place prize to the winner of the tie-breaker (with or without allowing 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place finisher to win more than one prize; see C1 and C7 above for example), or some other approach (note that giving the 6th place prize to the winner of tie-breaker would prevent someone from trying to tank it in the tie-breaker, e.g. if 3 players tied for 4th through 6th, and 6th place prize given to someone that finished in 6th including the tie-breaker, then all players might grade every book a 0.5, or a 9.8 in the tie-breaker to try to get the worst score in the tie-breaker). Or @CGC Mike could just pull a number from a hat, or do something else that doesn't take a lot of additional effort!
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On 4/25/2024 at 9:02 PM, ChrispyC66 said:On 4/25/2024 at 8:29 PM, Superman2006 said:
Interesting. I'm not a Transformers #1 expert, but I checked out some graded copies on eBay and I noticed the same thing.
@CGC Mike - in the off chance that the back cover posted doesn't correspond to the Transformers #1 front cover that was posted, one option is for CGC to give the book a hypothetical grade based on the front and back cover scans provided. That would seem to be seem to be a fair enough approach, since that's what everyone who has submitted grades so far would have done (and it wouldn't require striking out, or replacing a book which could be a pain for you).
It’s the 3rd Print
Good to know. Thanks for clearing that up!
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On 4/25/2024 at 7:23 PM, WilliamLunt said:
Random observation, is that the back cover for Transformers #1?
Every copy I look at (N/S, direct, CPV) has this back cover:
Interesting. I'm not a Transformers #1 expert, but I checked out some graded copies on eBay and I noticed the same thing.
@CGC Mike - in the off chance that the back cover posted doesn't correspond to the Transformers #1 front cover that was posted, one option is for CGC to give the book a hypothetical grade based on the front and back cover scans provided. That would seem to be seem to be a fair enough approach, since that's what everyone who has submitted grades so far would have done (and it wouldn't require striking out, or replacing a book which could be a pain for you).
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On 4/23/2024 at 12:07 PM, CGC Mike said:
Here's the results for @Superman2006, so he can copy the data.
TITLE Avengers #10 Frankenstein #13 Showcase #97 Spidey #252 Superman #75 FINAL GRADE 8.0 9.2 9.6 8.5 9.4 SCORE GRADER BOOK 1 BOOK 2 BOOK 3 BOOK 4 BOOK 5 1 genrlzod 8.0 9.2 9.4 8.5 9.4 2 Nschenks 8.0 9.4 9.6 8.5 9.2 3 1Cool 8.0 9.2 9.2 8.5 9.2 3 comicstock 8.0 9.2 9.4 8.0 9.2 3 Cushing Fan 8.5 9.2 9.6 8.0 9.2 3 misterrmystery 8.0 9.4 9.6 8.0 9.2 3 TheTallGuy 9.0 9.2 9.8 8.5 9.4 3 topcat54 8.0 9.0 9.4 8.5 9.2 3 Yorick 8.0 9.2 9.2 8.5 9.2 3 zzutak 8.0 9.4 9.4 9.0 9.4 4 Axelrod 8.5 9.4 9.4 9.0 9.4 4 brumil190 8.5 9.4 9.6 9.0 9.2 4 Cerebus3000 8.0 9.2 9.2 8.5 9.0 4 ChrispyC66 8.0 9.6 9.4 8.5 9.2 4 Darwination 9.0 9.6 9.6 8.5 9.4 4 EastEnd1 8.0 9.2 9.2 8.5 9.0 4 eeb03 8.0 9.2 9.2 8.5 9.0 4 Hudson 8.0 9.4 9.4 8.0 9.2 4 jbpez 8.0 9.4 9.2 8.0 9.4 4 JollyComics 8.5 9.2 9.4 9.0 9.2 4 KryptoMayor 7.5 9.4 9.2 8.5 9.4 4 old_dano 8.5 9.2 9.2 8.5 9.2 4 Ride the Tiger 8.5 9.2 9.2 8.5 9.2 4 Sandflea 8.5 9.4 9.4 8.5 9.2 4 skypinkblu 7.0 9.2 9.6 9.2 9.4 4 TSwift25 9.0 9.4 9.6 8.0 9.4 4 TTG 8.0 9.2 9.4 8.0 9.0 4 Withering Wind 8.0 9.4 9.4 8.0 9.2 5 aszumilo 7.5 9.2 9.0 8.5 9.2 5 comicginger1789 7.5 9.4 9.2 8.5 9.6 5 Deputy Dan 8.5 9.2 9.4 8.0 9.0 5 frozentundraguy 8.0 9.4 9.6 7.5 9.0 5 GawkHawk 8.5 9.6 9.4 8.5 9.2 5 grendelbo 9.2 9.4 9.6 8.5 9.2 5 John R 8.0 9.0 9.6 7.5 9.0 5 musicmeta 9.0 9.2 9.4 8.5 9.0 5 Superman2006 8.5 9.4 9.2 8.5 9.2 5 TheGeneral 8.0 9.4 9.2 9.0 9.2 5 Wipple 8.5 9.4 9.8 9.0 9.6 6 boron 8.0 8.0 9.2 8.5 9.2 6 CJ Design 8.5 9.6 9.8 9.0 9.2 6 Cman429 7.5 9.4 9.4 7.0 9.4 6 Electron 8.5 9.4 9.2 9.2 9.4 6 Get Marwood & I 8.0 9.4 9.4 7.5 9.0 6 Jesse-Lee 8.5 9.2 9.0 8.0 9.6 6 makeminemarvel 6.5 9.2 9.4 8.0 9.2 6 mattn792 9.2 9.4 9.6 9.0 9.2 6 Point Five 8.5 9.2 8.5 8.0 9.4 6 silverseeker 7.5 9.4 9.2 8.5 9.0 6 spidermanbeyond 9.2 9.4 9.4 8.5 9.2 6 SpidersComics 7.5 9.0 8.5 8.5 9.4 6 thehumantorch 7.0 9.2 9.2 9.2 9.4 6 toro 8.0 9.0 9.6 7.5 8.5 6 trmoore54 9.0 9.6 9.4 8.5 9.2 6 WilliamLunt 8.5 9.6 9.2 9.0 9.4 7 alecholland 7.5 9.2 8.5 8.0 9.2 7 Benjamin1977 8.5 9.4 9.0 9.0 9.2 7 Dormian 8.5 9.2 9.0 8.5 8.5 7 Grendel72 8.5 9.6 9.4 9.2 9.2 7 JWKyle 7.5 9.0 9.4 7.0 9.2 7 Kramerica 9.4 9.6 9.6 9.0 9.4 7 Lninefingers 7.5 9.2 8.0 8.0 9.4 7 Motor City Rob 7.5 9.4 8.5 9.0 9.4 7 Old Fashion PB and J 8.5 9.2 8.0 8.5 9.2 7 TC33 8.5 9.2 9.0 9.0 9.0 7 tmac100 9.0 9.4 8.5 8.5 9.4 7 Tom789 7.0 8.5 9.4 9.0 9.2 7 topofthetotem 7.5 8.5 9.2 9.0 9.2 7 Warlord 8.0 9.2 8.5 8.0 9.0 7 William-James88 8.5 9.0 9.0 8.0 9.2 8 1337pino 7.0 9.2 8.5 8.0 9.2 8 ArAich 6.5 9.4 9.6 8.0 8.5 8 batcollector 7.0 9.4 9.2 7.5 9.2 8 BrashL 8.0 9.2 8.5 7.5 9.0 8 canickus 7.0 9.6 9.4 7.0 9.4 8 jcjames 9.0 9.4 9.0 8.0 9.2 8 Mr. Zipper 8.5 9.4 9.0 8.0 9.0 8 paqart 9.0 9.4 8.5 8.5 9.2 8 thingsofstuff 8.5 9.4 9.2 7.5 9.0 9 AJD 8.0 9.4 8.0 7.5 9.2 9 apocalypse76 7.5 9.0 9.0 7.5 9.0 9 asteroid-comix 8.5 9.4 9.0 7.0 9.2 9 Batman Fett 8.0 9.0 8.5 8.0 8.5 9 Jackhartmann 6.0 9.2 9.4 8.5 8.0 9 jas1vans 9.0 9.4 9.2 8.5 8.0 9 JohnH19 7.0 8.5 9.2 8.0 9.0 9 Morganmi 7.5 9.4 9.0 7.5 9.0 9 pastandpresentcomics 7.5 9.2 9.0 8.0 8.0 9 SNiPER 9.0 9.6 9.2 9.2 9.6 9 timfinz 9.0 9.2 8.5 8.0 9.0 10 aj_curated 7.5 9.4 9.2 7.0 8.5 10 BuscemasAvengers 7.0 9.0 9.2 7.0 9.0 10 davidking623 7.5 9.4 9.2 9.0 7.5 10 flashlites 7.0 9.4 9.2 7.5 8.5 10 FSQIV 8.0 9.2 7.5 7.5 9.0 10 pmpknface 8.0 9.0 9.4 7.0 7.5 10 scburdet 8.5 9.4 8.5 7.5 9.0 11 ADAMANTIUM 8.5 9.8 9.6 9.4 8.0 11 F For Fake 8.5 9.4 8.0 9.2 9.0 11 Mars76 9.0 9.8 9.2 9.4 9.6 11 Panda2 8.0 9.2 8.5 6.5 8.5 11 sagii 5.5 8.5 9.6 7.0 9.2 11 Supa-Bad-Mofo 7.5 9.0 8.0 7.0 9.2 11 CHASEnBLUE 7.0 9.0 9.4 7.5 7.5 12 BlackOut21 6.0 8.5 9.0 7.0 9.4 12 Bmattioli86 9.4 9.8 9.6 9.4 9.8 12 FigaroToe 6.5 7.5 9.0 9.0 9.2 13 Doctor Dositheus 6.5 8.0 9.2 8.5 7.5 13 jayhawker 9.0 9.4 8.5 7.5 8.0 13 Vince G 7.0 9.2 8.5 7.0 8.0 14 Pickie 7.0 9.2 8.0 6.5 8.5 15 Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice 7.5 8.5 6.5 7.0 9.2 16 AnthonyTheAbyss 7.5 9.2 8.5 5.0 8.0 19 ned 5.5 7.5 6.5 8.0 9.2 23 Crose87420 6.0 7.0 8.5 6.5 7.0 23 Dark Elf 5.0 7.5 8.0 6.0 8.5 Awesome. Thanks, Mike!
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I only started publishing Rookie of the Year winners after Contest #8, if I recall correctly.
Here are the Rookie of the Year winners for all contests to date:
Honorable mention to others that did well in their first outing, especially those in the first contest (including @Motor City Rob who had a 14) as that was the toughest contest to win RoY, as it included the legendary @Squirrel Guy (who would be ranked first overall if he had enough qualifying rounds and maintained his current average over 3 rounds), and many other top ranked graders, including three that are currently in the top ten cumulative rankings (@jbpez, @Point Five and @zzutak).
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