Superman2006

On 4/28/2024 at 7:11 PM, CGC Mike said:

@Superman2006 The spreadsheet that you can copy is now in the 3rd post of this thread.  Note that Axelrod is above the score/grader/book line.  Everyone should be listed.  If not, let me know.  I had to do some cut and pasting.  near the top.  It's a long story. Lol  

Got it. Thanks!

On 4/28/2024 at 6:44 PM, CGC Mike said:

If there is a tie, I may have 2 books stashed away somewhere.  If there is still a tie after that, we could use this like we do to determine our 3 winners for the contest.

In the event that there is still a tie, This criteria will be used to determine the final rankings.  If #1 doesn't reveal a winner, #2 will be used ect...

1) Most cumulative Bullseyes  (Bullseyes in tiebreaker round count)

2) Most Books off by 1 grade

3) Most Books off by 2 grades

4) First Book in order listed to get Bullseye

5) Second Book in order listed to get Bullseye

Here are the people participating in the tiebreaker round:

That sounds great. Thanks again for all that you do Mike! You are awesome!

And thanks again to @Get Marwood & I for the generous donation, giving hope to me and others that aren't optimistic about sniffing a top 3 finish this time around!

On 4/28/2024 at 6:55 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

Fellow participants! Last year I won the sixth contest and bagged a $500 grading credit that I'm never going to use. With Mike's blessing, I would like to offer that $500 credit to whoever comes sixth in this, current contest. Six is a favourite number of mine, if you hadn't already guessed.

So, let it be known - if you want to win some grading credits, try to come first, second, third or sixth this time.

Good luck to everyone and thanks to Mike for agreeing to the transfer 

That's very generous of you, @Get Marwood & I!  Given my expected results on this last round of books, I'll be lucky if I'm in a position to compete for 6th place 

Following are the 6th place results from the prior contests:

C1: 4 participants tied for 3rd through 6th place.

C2: 4 participants tied for 6th through 9th place.

C3: 5 participants tied for 5th through 9th place.

C4: 2 participants tied for 6th through 7th place.

C5: 3 participants tied for 6th though 8th place.

C6: 3 participants tied for 5th through 7th place.

C7: 5 participants tied for 3rd through 7th place.

C8: 8 participants tied for 6th through 13th place.

C9: 1 participant finished alone in 6th place.

One option to settle the tie for 6th place would be to have those tied for 6th place to grade a set of tie breaker books (could use the same books that any participants that are tied for 1st, 2nd &/or 3rd use for their tie breaker), etc.  Then need to decide what to do from there, such as giving the 6th place prize to the winner of the tie-breaker (with or without allowing 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place finisher to win more than one prize; see C1 and C7 above for example), or some other approach (note that giving the 6th place prize to the winner of tie-breaker would prevent someone from trying to tank it in the tie-breaker, e.g. if 3 players tied for 4th through 6th, and 6th place prize given to someone that finished in 6th including the tie-breaker, then all players might grade every book a 0.5, or a 9.8 in the tie-breaker to try to get the worst score in the tie-breaker). Or @CGC Mike could just pull a number from a hat, or do something else that doesn't take a lot of additional effort!

On 4/25/2024 at 9:02 PM, ChrispyC66 said:

On 4/25/2024 at 8:29 PM, Superman2006 said:

Interesting. I'm not a Transformers #1 expert, but I checked out some graded copies on eBay and I noticed the same thing.

@CGC Mike - in the off chance that the back cover posted doesn't correspond to the Transformers #1 front cover that was posted, one option is for CGC to give the book a hypothetical grade based on the front and back cover scans provided. That would seem to be seem to be a fair enough approach, since that's what everyone who has submitted grades so far would have done (and it wouldn't require striking out, or replacing a book which could be a pain for you).

It’s the 3rd Print

Good to know. Thanks for clearing that up!

On 4/25/2024 at 7:23 PM, WilliamLunt said:

Random observation, is that the back cover for Transformers #1?

Every copy I look at (N/S, direct, CPV) has this back cover:

Interesting. I'm not a Transformers #1 expert, but I checked out some graded copies on eBay and I noticed the same thing.

@CGC Mike - in the off chance that the back cover posted doesn't correspond to the Transformers #1 front cover that was posted, one option is for CGC to give the book a hypothetical grade based on the front and back cover scans provided. That would seem to be seem to be a fair enough approach, since that's what everyone who has submitted grades so far would have done (and it wouldn't require striking out, or replacing a book which could be a pain for you).

Great start, @genrlzod!

On 4/23/2024 at 12:07 PM, CGC Mike said:

Here's the results for @Superman2006, so he can copy the data.

	TITLE	Avengers #10	Frankenstein #13	Showcase #97	Spidey #252	Superman #75
	FINAL GRADE	8.0	9.2	9.6	8.5	9.4
SCORE	GRADER	BOOK 1	BOOK 2	BOOK 3	BOOK 4	BOOK 5
1	genrlzod	8.0	9.2	9.4	8.5	9.4
2	Nschenks	8.0	9.4	9.6	8.5	9.2
3	1Cool	8.0	9.2	9.2	8.5	9.2
3	comicstock	8.0	9.2	9.4	8.0	9.2
3	Cushing Fan	8.5	9.2	9.6	8.0	9.2
3	misterrmystery	8.0	9.4	9.6	8.0	9.2
3	TheTallGuy	9.0	9.2	9.8	8.5	9.4
3	topcat54	8.0	9.0	9.4	8.5	9.2
3	Yorick	8.0	9.2	9.2	8.5	9.2
3	zzutak	8.0	9.4	9.4	9.0	9.4
4	Axelrod	8.5	9.4	9.4	9.0	9.4
4	brumil190	8.5	9.4	9.6	9.0	9.2
4	Cerebus3000	8.0	9.2	9.2	8.5	9.0
4	ChrispyC66	8.0	9.6	9.4	8.5	9.2
4	Darwination	9.0	9.6	9.6	8.5	9.4
4	EastEnd1	8.0	9.2	9.2	8.5	9.0
4	eeb03	8.0	9.2	9.2	8.5	9.0
4	Hudson	8.0	9.4	9.4	8.0	9.2
4	jbpez	8.0	9.4	9.2	8.0	9.4
4	JollyComics	8.5	9.2	9.4	9.0	9.2
4	KryptoMayor	7.5	9.4	9.2	8.5	9.4
4	old_dano	8.5	9.2	9.2	8.5	9.2
4	Ride the Tiger	8.5	9.2	9.2	8.5	9.2
4	Sandflea	8.5	9.4	9.4	8.5	9.2
4	skypinkblu	7.0	9.2	9.6	9.2	9.4
4	TSwift25	9.0	9.4	9.6	8.0	9.4
4	TTG	8.0	9.2	9.4	8.0	9.0
4	Withering Wind	8.0	9.4	9.4	8.0	9.2
5	aszumilo	7.5	9.2	9.0	8.5	9.2
5	comicginger1789	7.5	9.4	9.2	8.5	9.6
5	Deputy Dan	8.5	9.2	9.4	8.0	9.0
5	frozentundraguy	8.0	9.4	9.6	7.5	9.0
5	GawkHawk	8.5	9.6	9.4	8.5	9.2
5	grendelbo	9.2	9.4	9.6	8.5	9.2
5	John R	8.0	9.0	9.6	7.5	9.0
5	musicmeta	9.0	9.2	9.4	8.5	9.0
5	Superman2006	8.5	9.4	9.2	8.5	9.2
5	TheGeneral	8.0	9.4	9.2	9.0	9.2
5	Wipple	8.5	9.4	9.8	9.0	9.6
6	boron	8.0	8.0	9.2	8.5	9.2
6	CJ Design	8.5	9.6	9.8	9.0	9.2
6	Cman429	7.5	9.4	9.4	7.0	9.4
6	Electron	8.5	9.4	9.2	9.2	9.4
6	Get Marwood & I	8.0	9.4	9.4	7.5	9.0
6	Jesse-Lee	8.5	9.2	9.0	8.0	9.6
6	makeminemarvel	6.5	9.2	9.4	8.0	9.2
6	mattn792	9.2	9.4	9.6	9.0	9.2
6	Point Five	8.5	9.2	8.5	8.0	9.4
6	silverseeker	7.5	9.4	9.2	8.5	9.0
6	spidermanbeyond	9.2	9.4	9.4	8.5	9.2
6	SpidersComics	7.5	9.0	8.5	8.5	9.4
6	thehumantorch	7.0	9.2	9.2	9.2	9.4
6	toro	8.0	9.0	9.6	7.5	8.5
6	trmoore54	9.0	9.6	9.4	8.5	9.2
6	WilliamLunt	8.5	9.6	9.2	9.0	9.4
7	alecholland	7.5	9.2	8.5	8.0	9.2
7	Benjamin1977	8.5	9.4	9.0	9.0	9.2
7	Dormian	8.5	9.2	9.0	8.5	8.5
7	Grendel72	8.5	9.6	9.4	9.2	9.2
7	JWKyle	7.5	9.0	9.4	7.0	9.2
7	Kramerica	9.4	9.6	9.6	9.0	9.4
7	Lninefingers	7.5	9.2	8.0	8.0	9.4
7	Motor City Rob	7.5	9.4	8.5	9.0	9.4
7	Old Fashion PB and J	8.5	9.2	8.0	8.5	9.2
7	TC33	8.5	9.2	9.0	9.0	9.0
7	tmac100	9.0	9.4	8.5	8.5	9.4
7	Tom789	7.0	8.5	9.4	9.0	9.2
7	topofthetotem	7.5	8.5	9.2	9.0	9.2
7	Warlord	8.0	9.2	8.5	8.0	9.0
7	William-James88	8.5	9.0	9.0	8.0	9.2
8	1337pino	7.0	9.2	8.5	8.0	9.2
8	ArAich	6.5	9.4	9.6	8.0	8.5
8	batcollector	7.0	9.4	9.2	7.5	9.2
8	BrashL	8.0	9.2	8.5	7.5	9.0
8	canickus	7.0	9.6	9.4	7.0	9.4
8	jcjames	9.0	9.4	9.0	8.0	9.2
8	Mr. Zipper	8.5	9.4	9.0	8.0	9.0
8	paqart	9.0	9.4	8.5	8.5	9.2
8	thingsofstuff	8.5	9.4	9.2	7.5	9.0
9	AJD	8.0	9.4	8.0	7.5	9.2
9	apocalypse76	7.5	9.0	9.0	7.5	9.0
9	asteroid-comix	8.5	9.4	9.0	7.0	9.2
9	Batman Fett	8.0	9.0	8.5	8.0	8.5
9	Jackhartmann	6.0	9.2	9.4	8.5	8.0
9	jas1vans	9.0	9.4	9.2	8.5	8.0
9	JohnH19	7.0	8.5	9.2	8.0	9.0
9	Morganmi	7.5	9.4	9.0	7.5	9.0
9	pastandpresentcomics	7.5	9.2	9.0	8.0	8.0
9	SNiPER	9.0	9.6	9.2	9.2	9.6
9	timfinz	9.0	9.2	8.5	8.0	9.0
10	aj_curated	7.5	9.4	9.2	7.0	8.5
10	BuscemasAvengers	7.0	9.0	9.2	7.0	9.0
10	davidking623	7.5	9.4	9.2	9.0	7.5
10	flashlites	7.0	9.4	9.2	7.5	8.5
10	FSQIV	8.0	9.2	7.5	7.5	9.0
10	pmpknface	8.0	9.0	9.4	7.0	7.5
10	scburdet	8.5	9.4	8.5	7.5	9.0
11	ADAMANTIUM	8.5	9.8	9.6	9.4	8.0
11	F For Fake	8.5	9.4	8.0	9.2	9.0
11	Mars76	9.0	9.8	9.2	9.4	9.6
11	Panda2	8.0	9.2	8.5	6.5	8.5
11	sagii	5.5	8.5	9.6	7.0	9.2
11	Supa-Bad-Mofo	7.5	9.0	8.0	7.0	9.2
11	CHASEnBLUE	7.0	9.0	9.4	7.5	7.5
12	BlackOut21	6.0	8.5	9.0	7.0	9.4
12	Bmattioli86	9.4	9.8	9.6	9.4	9.8
12	FigaroToe	6.5	7.5	9.0	9.0	9.2
13	Doctor Dositheus	6.5	8.0	9.2	8.5	7.5
13	jayhawker	9.0	9.4	8.5	7.5	8.0
13	Vince G	7.0	9.2	8.5	7.0	8.0
14	Pickie	7.0	9.2	8.0	6.5	8.5
15	Ahsoka Tano Jedi Apprentice	7.5	8.5	6.5	7.0	9.2
16	AnthonyTheAbyss	7.5	9.2	8.5	5.0	8.0
19	ned	5.5	7.5	6.5	8.0	9.2
23	Crose87420	6.0	7.0	8.5	6.5	7.0
23	Dark Elf	5.0	7.5	8.0	6.0	8.5

Awesome. Thanks, Mike!

I only started publishing Rookie of the Year winners after Contest #8, if I recall correctly.

Here are the Rookie of the Year winners for all contests to date:

Honorable mention to others that did well in their first outing, especially those in the first contest (including @Motor City Rob who had a 14) as that was the toughest contest to win RoY, as it included the legendary @Squirrel Guy (who would be ranked first overall if he had enough qualifying rounds and maintained his current average over 3 rounds), and many other top ranked graders, including three that are currently in the top ten cumulative rankings (@jbpez, @Point Five and @zzutak).

On 4/22/2024 at 9:25 PM, Axelrod said:

Where would I be if I had skipped out on that one really bad contest!

Or, maybe it was more than one bad one actually.  I can't even remember. 

I usually have (at least) one really bad round, I remember that!

Still, these are fun!

You'd have a 22.5 average if not for your worst two rounds of 35 (rounds 2 and 7).

Your best score was a 2 (in contest #1 and again in contest #8); your worst was a 15 in contest #7. Your 2nd worse was a 13 in in contest #4; you had just 11 total points across the other 3 rounds in that contest!

On 4/22/2024 at 4:32 PM, Kramerica said:

On 4/20/2024 at 8:47 PM, Superman2006 said:

Thanks, buddy!

It takes a few hours to put it all together with a lot of data checks throughout to account for any data issues (there haven't been many in recent contests thanks to good work by CGC Mike and Get Marwood & I) and to perform other cross-checks, so it's not an incredible amount of work. Maybe I'll keep updating it in the future, if more people want it than not.  Holding off on publishing it until the start of the next contest like I did this time does give me more freedom to update it at my convenience.

 

This is so cool. Thanks Supes! I for one would love you to continue to do this and I think that we - those who participate in the grading contest - should start a fund for you as a way of saying thanks. Enough for you to go buy something nice for yourself in the Marketplace here 

Thanks, Kramerica!

I had recalled at least one negative comment in the past from someone that didn't care for some of my cumulative rankings (and sometimes for every one complaint there are more that feel the same way), but based on the feedback in this thread, I plan to continue updating the cumulative rankings going forward. It's worth the effort to me since it sounds like more people enjoy the rankings and other stats I provide than not. 

I really appreciate the gesture, but I would request that no fund be started on my behalf. Similar to the efforts from @CGC Mike, @Get Marwood & I and @zzutak, and everyone that comment in the grading threads (I'm usually more of a reader than a commenter lol), I'm just trying to chip in, in some way. Just consider this my little contribution to the boards!

On 4/21/2024 at 4:11 PM, Superman2006 said:

On 4/21/2024 at 3:55 PM, AnthonyTheAbyss said:

May I ask what you use to analyze the data?  Excel?  Pen/Paper/Caluclator?  Just wondering if there's a way to make this easier or automated since this is great information to have and I would hate to see it stop.

 

***I love excel

I use Excel. I'm a big fan of Excel and I've been using it forever; well at least since I switched over to it from Lotus 123 back in the late 90's.

It doesn't take that long to put together; I think it took about 2.5 to 3 hours to prepare from start to finish this past time, which I don't think is that bad (I have a lot of checks that I perform to ensure accuracy). It is a fairly automated process already; there are some minor things that could be done to speed it up (data wise, and preparation wise), but probably not enough time savings to make it worth the additional effort.

Since it sounds like you and a number of folks would like me to continue publishing the cumulative rankings, I'll plan to keep doing so going forward. 

For anyone not interested in how the sausage is made, feel free to skip this post  

For AnthonyTheAbyss and any others that are interested in my process, the following covers most of my cumulative rankings update steps:

(a) locate the prior rounds results threads (I'll probably do that right after each round going forward)

(b) copy and paste the data into Excel, with one tab for each round,

(c) then reformat all names to remove any trailing spaces, etc., identify new participants, check them against participants through the first 8 rounds, and make sure that there weren't any inadvertent name changes in the contest summaries (e.g. in the past, "TheGeneral" might have participated in past contests, but then one contest there might have been an entrant of "The General", which was really the same entrant, and so when that was brought to my attention, I tweaked the checks that I was performing for any new entrants to make sure the name didn't have a typo in it, and I fixed the typo in my spreadsheet. I can't remember for sure if it was TheGeneral or some other name with a space issue in the middle of the name, but you get the idea; there weren't any name issues like that this past contest and maybe not in other recent contests, but I still check for it)

(d) for each round, given everyone's grades by book, I calculate my own scores for each participant and check the totals Mike comes up with

(e) compile all results for the current contest into a single tab, with one row for each entrant, regardless of whether they completed 1 round or 4 rounds in the current contest (this and all other steps are fairly automated; since CGC Mike started posting results in a format that I can copy / paste into Excel there isn't any manual data entry; just the occasional manual data correction, but even that is rare in recent contests.  Any manual inputs I performed to pull in some of the results from the early contests were double-checked for accuracy, plus like I mentioned earlier, I calculate everyone's scores in my spreadsheet, and so I then checked my totals against Mike's totals for everyone).

(f) bring in results for all participants for the current round into an aggregate tab that includes results for all participants to date for every book / round / contest to date. This is the tab that I then use to apply filters / prepare rankings, etc.

On 4/21/2024 at 11:10 AM, ChrispyC66 said:

Thanks @Superman2006, I was waiting to see if I made it into the Honor Roll this time. Woohoo…47! 

I appreciate you spending time on this for those of us that don’t get close to the money it’s small sense of accomplishment. 

Thanks, ChrispyC66, and congrats on making the honor roll. You have been on fire the past few contests with an average 22.7 over he past three contests!

On 4/21/2024 at 9:09 AM, ADAMANTIUM said:

I might have missed one contest, hard to believe that I missed more than half of the contests to not be included in the rankings. I don't remember even missing one contest, but idk, seem to remember inquiring before....  

No worries, glad there is some work put in  Cool!

I have not received an inquiry from you before, but here's some additional info since you asked:

There have 424 different participants across the 9 contests to date (I didn't check to see if anyone changed there user name, but if any name changes are brought to my attention I can update my info accordinly)

Out off the 424 participants to date, 86 participants have completed 4.25 or more contests (i.e. 4.25 x 4 = 17 rounds or more)

Those 86 participants qualify for the top 50 rankings in my first post.

You are currently in 71st place with an average score of 35.8. You have participated in all contests to date; 8.75 contests to be precise, since you didn't make it into the top 10 in the first contest through the first 3 rounds and therefore you didn't qualify for the 4th and final round of that contest.

Your best score was 28 which you received in contests 4 and 6.

Hope that helps  If you'd like your scores for all rounds let me know here or via PM (I have the info readily available and it would just take me 2 seconds to pull up)

If anyone else thinks they were excluded from the rankings in error, let me know in this thread or shoot me a PM.

On 4/20/2024 at 8:14 PM, CGC Mike said:

Great stuff, @Superman2006  Very much appreciated.  

Thanks, Mike!

Here are the average scores by contest, along with the number of participants that submitted grades for 1 or more rounds:

The average grade has been in the 29 to 32 range for all but the first contest.  For the first contest there were a lot more participants at the start (203 vs. a high of 134 for the other contests), and from what I recall CGC marketed the contest on social media, so a presumably a lot more non-regular boardies participated, which presumably is the main reason for the higher than usual average score in the first contest.

In case anyone was wondering what the rankings would look like if I didn't set a minimum number of contests requirement for the cumulative rankings in my first post above, here are all of the scores for candidates with an average score of 20 or less with no minimum number of contests requirement:

On 4/20/2024 at 7:27 PM, grendelbo said:

On 4/20/2024 at 7:05 PM, Superman2006 said:

It felt a bit too much like work putting this together this time around, so this may or may not be my last cumulative rankings update.

If I drop another five places like I did after the end of the last contest then maybe that's for the best. 

Seriously though, your analysis and hard work is much appreciated. 

I had been wondering where this cumulative performance ranking was. 

Thanks very much. 

Thanks, buddy!

It takes a few hours to put it all together with a lot of data checks throughout to account for any data issues (there haven't been many in recent contests thanks to good work by CGC Mike and Get Marwood & I) and to perform other cross-checks, so it's not an incredible amount of work. Maybe I'll keep updating it in the future, if more people want it than not.  Holding off on publishing it until the start of the next contest like I did this time does give me more freedom to update it at my convenience.

On 4/9/2024 at 3:36 PM, buttock said:

On 4/9/2024 at 1:54 PM, sfcityduck said:

Obviously, a matter of taste: But I like 23 better than 24. More drama. The guys on 24 could have just portaged their canoe, but the guy on 23 is fighting for his life. Colors on 24 are spectacular! But I prefer the simplicity and focus of 23 (which also has great colors in the sky -- and the snow really focuses the action). To be fair, both are masterpieces of the time. DC non-superhero adventure (little "a") covers are the standard for the time.

The guy on 23 could have just shot the wolves. 

That's what I was thinking at first, but I guess he must have run out of bullets or gun malfunction.

On 4/8/2024 at 1:30 PM, CGC Mike said:

On 4/8/2024 at 1:24 PM, Mmehdy said:

I did an interesting interview on the 6M$ sale of the Action #1 on the new collectable website called "cllct.com"..when you come up on the page, go to news and my interview will be the 3/4 th down. If someone wants to link it...it would be great...I think I was spot on!

 This was a very important milestone sale.

https://www.cllct.com/cllct/posts/meet-the-man-who-always-believed-in-the-world-s-most-expensive-comic-book

Good article. There's one thing that appears a be amiss in the article, unless I'm missing something. The article says that if Mitch's copy were a 5 today it would be worth around $300,000 today.  Did the author mean to say $3,000,000 (i.e. a simple typo), or was the author's estimate just way off?

On 4/1/2024 at 2:22 PM, Telegan said:

This is good to know.  I had no idea they built custom crates for you to load stuff into.  Thanks for coming back and posting the update with the info as I may be making a move later this year or early next year.  The only downside is how much extra the custom boxes and the comics added to the move.

How are the boxes put together?  Using screws or nails?  And how the heck are those boxes stored on the truck?  They look like they're floating.  Was Dr. Strange involved in this move?  Maybe adjustable "racks" that hold the boxes up, but are underneath and can't be seen?

I think that last pic is upside down : )

In please