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SCS shouldnt even be a thing.

The comic shouldnt move around in the case that was designed to freeze the comic in its current condition.

Its possible the book was damaged between being pressed and graded.

On 3/17/2023 at 1:46 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

Quite the miswrap for this book as well.  Is there a spine roll?  

No spine roll.

On 3/16/2023 at 4:07 PM, D2 said:

I love seeing 9.8s with visible flaws, because then I know I got lucky with my grade. 

I have one 9.8 that I submitted myself ...I was only hoping for a 9.6 because It has a color break on the spine.

Its dead to me.

I love 9.6s that have zero visible flaws.

I had great success finding them in 2019 / 2020.

I put together a gorgeous Walking Dead run of issues 1 - 10 & 19... most in 9.6 / 9.8 and they all look flawless to the naked eye.

The past few years, not so much.

In fact, Im finding it hard to even find a 9.8 without flaws these days.

I tried buying older slabs but many of the books in the old slabs have SCS.

On 3/16/2023 at 8:34 AM, BlowUpTheMoon said:

Well, 9.8s are not 10s... or something blah blah.

The staple placement on this book is just plain ugly.

I know this is common for older books but have you ever seen such a thing on an almost modern age book?

Would you say it's been pressed and that's the cause.

Or simply a factory defect?

On 3/10/2023 at 9:37 AM, LowGradeBronze said:

Here's a chance to grab a tatty copy in a lot of four ASMs: Dont be put off by the .co.uk IP address, this lot is in the US, Toledo, Ohio.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134478948903?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20220705100511%26meid%3D12993ce22dd34b118ce7c91d1234a008%26pid%3D101524%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D134478948903%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2&_trksid=p2380057.c101524.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3Ac91ccc3b-bf50-11ed-8ac4-22da6e21ce41|parentrq%3Acbf2a02a1860acd89d24e7a4ffffd984|iid%3A1

Unfortunately the 210 is in the worst shape of the lot, but with a hazmat suit and gloves you may survive handling it.....

Thanks for the heads up.

I wouldnt even feel comfortable storing that book with my other books.

Id need to quarantine it.

Thats one fugly book.

Thanks guys.

I have read it but my copy is in a CGC case now.

I like to have a readers copy for any slabbed books I own.

Its usually an easy task because my interests are 90% modern.

ASM is the only title I collect through the ages.

This book (ASM 210) will most likely come down in price at some point so ill probably just keep my powder dry for a while.

Those books are awesome.

There are a lot of things in life that are "easy to find" but you still have to pay a lot for them.

Shoot, electricity is easy to find but the bill keeps going up for some reason.

Marvel Tales maybe?

Im just looking for a readers copy of 210.

The listings/prices for 1st prints on Ebay make little sense right now.

Raw copies are damn near as much as graded copies, which are priced all out of whack.

Low grade - CGC graded copies are almost as much $ as mid grade - CGC graded copies which are almost as much $ as VF+ CGC graded copies.

Im not sure how these sellers expect to sell a CGC 4.0 for the same price that a CGC 7.0 is listed at.

50,000 comics?

Dayuuuum, I have maybe 2,000 and im out of space.

On 3/3/2023 at 10:52 AM, marvelmaniac said:

I am by no means trying to tell you what or how to collect, I was merely responding with my opinion on why comic books stress you out, I found that to be a bit sad since comic books are supposed to fun, if I offended you in anyway I apologize.

No problem at all, my friend.

On 3/3/2023 at 9:20 AM, CGC Mike said:

BTW, I have been told that this is a production chip, which is evidenced by the same “chipping” through the interior pages. Very common, and allowable in 9.6.

Thanks for clearing that up. 

I was going to ask you to check with the grading team on that.

I dont agree with it because there is a chunk missing from the cover.

It is what it is.

On 3/2/2023 at 1:27 PM, CGC Mike said:

Hi

Sorry to hear this happened to you.  I wish we had the opportunity to inspect the slab and book.  I guess it's too late now.  

Mike

Hi CGC Mike.

This was not a book that I submitted but one that I purchased.

That said, I did not destroy the slab yet and would be more than happy to send you the empty slab if you provide me with a shipping label.

Id like to keep the blue label with the book but this is the cert #:

4123644013

On 3/2/2023 at 11:15 AM, marvelmaniac said:

Just my opinion...

If you do not want to be stressed you should adopt a 1960's/1970's attitude towards collecting, that is, that they are comic books, meant to be opened, read, handled and enjoyed. Todays mentality is high grade only, perfect (NM+ 9.6/NM/MT 9.8), encapsulated books, how much are they worth and "OH NO!!!, a can barely see it defect", will I still get a 9.6? I can imagine the stress of buying new books and having to find the "perfect copy" and keep it that way, sending it for grading and hoping nothing happens to it along the way.

I imagine that the era you grew up in has a lot to do with your mentality towards collecting, here's hoping you can find more joy in collecting and a lot less stress.

 

Whoa, take it easy there, Dr. Melfi !

I collect what I like as most here do.

I like NM/NM+ books and im willing to pay the premium.

I collect mostly moderns, ASM aside, so it works for me.

~BUT~

I also have low grade/reader copies, reprints or TPBs for every graded book in my collection.

Nothing to fold, the chunk is gone and every page is damaged.

Oh well, I needed a nice raw copy anyhow and it wasnt that expensive.

I also wanna add that the slab opened way to easily.

I just ran my finger nail along the opening and it popped right open.

It snapped back closed without sealant too.

Ill take a hammer to it when I get home.

The slab, not the book.

On 3/1/2023 at 1:16 PM, Lightning55 said:

Sounds plausible. To the grader, it probably presented as a healed micro tear. Then folded back during encapsulation, or SCS.

On 3/1/2023 at 1:03 PM, Lightning55 said:

So your "Spidey-sense" was tingling and you pulled the trigger anyway, without inquiring? No wonder collecting is stressful to you.

On 3/1/2023 at 11:33 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

Kinda tough to imagine how this flaw would appear while in the case.

I agree 100%.

I was thinking it may have been damaged during encapsulation but now that I look at more slabbed copies on Ebay, I see that this defect is present on many high grade copies, some worse than others.

Im going to guess its a common manufacturing defect?

I still dont agree with it though. 

Defects like this should always count against the book IMO.

And if a high percentage of copies have it, well, those copies should be ineligible for NM or better grades.

It seems like every book I buy now has some sort of issue that stresses me out.

Im trying to hang in there but collecting comics should not be stressful.

I also wanna add that I did see it in the pics but thought:

"It must be debris inside the slab...no way a 9.6 has that harsh of a defect."