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There's a good but outdated guide at UGComix.info. The last couple forums with all the info over several years are gone. eBay is you biggest source to look for purchase. Arnie at SDCC every year is the best source for high end books. Get a Kennedy guide and read, as well as the Fogel guides. Rebel Visions by Rosenkranz is your best history source book.

You can upload images on this forum, go to file manager when you post. You are limited to small pics only, I think it's under 200k so you have to shrink them first.

Nice one, still need to pick one of these up myself.

Watched the first two episodes back to back. That was two weeks ago. I'll watch the rest soon enough, but I'm finding it rather easy to put other things ahead right now. The show is nice but as one (probably all) reviewer wrote: very very cliched characters. It's almost painful to anybody with a working knowledge of the art world, collectors, auctions. But the general public...I'm sure it's fine entertainment. So what did I put ahead? Well tonight it's Bettie Page Reveals All that's dropping off NF streaming 12/20! You get Theakston and Olivia right at the opening Watched the Bettie Page documentary last night and enjoyed it, loved seeing Dave Stevens in it. Thanks.

ComicsPriceGuide was the main forum. It's funny how they last a few years, as I believe the main Underground Comix forum has changed twice prior. I believe there is one other forum you might want to keep an eye on at comixjoint, but last time I checked there the forum was also down.

Oh, the cover to Dope Comix #5 would be a nice find. I'll take any page from the Pixie Meat (with Gary Panter) book also. http://comixjoint.com/dopecomix5.html

Thanks. This whole thing reminds me of another situation. Dave Stevens was my favorite cover artist, and Michael Golden was my favorite interior artist. The splash page from I think Avengers Annual #10 blew me away when I was younger and I collected anything Michael Golden (probably have 80% of everything he published before 1990). But a few years ago, after reading about how he treated one of the people who ordered an OA piece from him ("Patience is a Virtu" or something similar misspelled), even with the situation eventually being resolved, I don't have any interest in his work anymore.

I'd request they pick up the tab for shipping or in the alternative, have them ship it to the Beverly Hills office for you to pick up. Stuff goes back and forth between the office all the time, so it shouldn't be difficult for them to piggy back your art with another shipment. The way I handle situations like this is simply not to due further business with them. They had another auction last weekend and I had two items on my watch list. I told myself I wasn't going to look at any OA on their auction, but might be interested in comics. But when the day came, I just wasn't interested in this auction so I didn't even watch and I didn't bid. I know if I was the under bidder on several items before and I don't bid, then they lose money. One of the two items I had on my watch list ended higher than I would have bid, but the other ended at $38! (with BP) I would have easily bid a minimum of $100 or more, even if I lost they lose money. It adds up also, as I bid on around 15-20 items the previous auction and was the under bidder on around a half dozen. Now not for any later auctions with them. The only thing I'd add, as I largely agree with you, is that -if I've read you correctly- you've only dealt with a single employee. No matter how good the company, you'll find bad employees. Bad at their jobs, lackadaisacal, lazy, whatever...But with that single experience, you haven't really given them (another employee) a chance to correct the situation and win back your business. So in your shoes, that's what I'd do give them that second chance, for another employee to show you had a bad experience but didn't deal with a bad company. If that second chance fails,a then yes I'm totally with you. Actually it was 2 employees. The one when I went in person and they didn't connect my online registration with one I was asked to fill out in person, even though she told me she found my online registration. And then the time I called the Beverly Hills office (who couldn't find my orders because they have me twice in the system) and was transferred to someone in the Dallas office, when I inquired about picking the items up. So that showed me I wasn't going to be happy dealing with them later on. No bid loss for me, was new to OA anyway, I've got my two pieces (if they arrive) which I'll get framed next to the printed cover and then hang them on my wall if I can find a open space for them. I'll let the big boys handle the OA art in the future, if I see a piece that interests me, I'll purchase it, but it won't be through HA.

Thanks, no tracking numbers listed by either order so no shipping yet for me.

I'd request they pick up the tab for shipping or in the alternative, have them ship it to the Beverly Hills office for you to pick up. Stuff goes back and forth between the office all the time, so it shouldn't be difficult for them to piggy back your art with another shipment. The way I handle situations like this is simply not to due further business with them. They had another auction last weekend and I had two items on my watch list. I told myself I wasn't going to look at any OA on their auction, but might be interested in comics. But when the day came, I just wasn't interested in this auction so I didn't even watch and I didn't bid. I know if I was the under bidder on several items before and I don't bid, even if I don't win, then they lose money. One of the two items I had on my watch list ended higher than I would have bid, but the other ended at $38! (with BP) I would have easily bid a minimum of $100 or more, even if I lost they lose money. It adds up also, as I bid on around 15-20 items the previous auction and was the under bidder on around a half dozen. Now not for any later auctions with them.

Do you get a notice via e-mail when items ship? I haven't received anything letting me know yet.

Are you saying the Hennessey brothers sold Hi-De-Ho? That would be news. A few years ago they moved from Santa Monica Blvd. to Lincoln Blvd. a few blocks east and south.

Meltdown on Sunset might be worth checking out. The second Comic Bug is on Overland in Culver City, they bought the Comics Ink shop, but I don't think they have anything other than modern (at least that's how it was when it was Comics Ink). Hi-De-Ho is in Santa Monica.

That reminds me, how does CGC handle grading books with the flexi-disc records removed? I believe Nexus #3 had one, is the book incomplete according to them without it or do they grade it but note it on the label the flexi-disc is removed? You'd think so, but it's not paper and what if it's scratched in the book, does that lower the grade even though they don't grade records? Also, I wonder how CGC would handle the grading of a Library of Congress Sample File copy of a book.

What about magazines that came with loose inserts? I think Comic Art had an issue with a loose insert. Would this be graded without the loose insert as incomplete?

Recently read the Crichton book Travels in which he discusses some of the making of the original.

If you recall, the same question sort of came up in the underground thread in reference to the Mouse insert that sold at Heritage last month. When removed from RAW magazine, CGC treats the insert as a standalone comic; sometimes the label notes that it is an insert (as with the recent CGC 8.0 on Heritage), and sometimes it doesn't (as with the CGC 9.4 currently on ebay). As you mention, RAW is too big to have graded, but let's say someone submits a Surfer Vol. 12 #6 without the Tales from the Tube insert, or a December '76 issue of Cheri without the Carload O' Comics insert: Would CGC grade those magazines as complete with a mere notation on the label that the insert is missing? Probably not. It's an interesting question to consider how CGC might handle a complete copy of Surfer or Cheri with the comic still attached. Personally, I would like to see the label make mention of the fact that the magazine contains a comic, but, given that the comic is part of the magazine, it wouldn't really make sense to assign it a separate grade. Then again, in light of the policy regarding the Mouse insert, perhaps CGC would assign the insert a second grade. We all know that double covers receive two grades, but if the outside cover is removed and resubmitted for grading, it will obviously be deemed incomplete (the sticker on the label will simply read CVR). Presumably, copies of Surfer or Cheri without their respective inserts would also be deemed incomplete. At least there would appear to be some consistency here in that what is removed from the outside is always what's rendered incomplete in the act of removing; whether it is the second cover removed from a double covered comic, or the magazine from which the insert is removed. But magazines are not the covers of the comics that are contained within them, so any perceived consistency on the part of CGC gleaned from this analogy would appear to be ill-considered. But doesn't CGC also grade magazines now also, so doesn't the magazine get a grade and the removable but bound in comic would get a grade if submitted separately, so shouldn't one of these complete mags get a grade and then a second grade for the comic mentioned on the label? I should submit my copies to see how it would be handled. Still haven't remembered the other magazine title somewhere in my boxes behind other boxes. Also, wonder if the Cheri holiday wrapper would be included in the slab and if that would be noted on the label.

Thanks for the correction, yes it was Cheri (does your copies have the Holiday wrapper around it?). Wonder if I got these (RAW is too big) graded, how the CGC would handle the comic? Give it a 2nd grade doesn't seem like something I've seen before.

How about a thread with magazines with regular comic books that where added/bound in, but removeable. Here's a few that comes to mind. Issues of Raw has the Maus comic. There's a issue of Surfer that had a comic. There's an issue of Hustler that had a R. Crumb comic bound in. There's another that I'm forgetting that had an issue of Gory Stories Quarterly #2 1/2 bound in. I know that an issue of Apple Pie had part of Real War Comix in it, but it was part of the magazine, not an addition.

Forgot, Finding Vivian Maier is excellent also, about an unknown photographer. Of course, for those that haven't seen it, Crumb about the Underground Comix artist.

Can't recall the title, but the documentary on the artist in the North East coast who jumped off a bridge and swam out to his death, leaving his house as a huge art piece with his organized art inside was excellent. Maybe someone recognizes the description and posts the title. Edit: Found it, it's How To Draw A Bunny (Ray Johnson) Another excellent one is The Devil and Daniel Johnston about the musician and artist. One of my favorite documentaries is Dig! (about a musician and his association with a band). Sadly all these are only available on DVD from Netflix currently, not on streaming.

It was good, but not great. Interesting enough for the Giger fan.

Robert Williams discusses this issue in this interview, if you haven't seen it already. I think it's interesting seeing the father of LowBrow Art discussing the work of the father of Punk Rock Art.

Yes, you do since they have a B&M location in California. Would be nice to save almost 10% though, but the invoice clearly has CA tax added on it. Plus, I find it impossible to believe that they packed up the entire session / shipment and sent it back today if they're weren't open on the weekend and didn't know who's winning what over the weekend / yesterday.

Well, that phone call was a bit frustrating. So when I went in on Friday to the floor auction and registered, the woman there asked if I had bid on their auctions before. I stated I had, she couldn't find my name and then asked if I had won any HA auctions before and I told her no. She was then able to find my account and I filled out another registration from for the floor auction. On it I checked the box that I wanted to collect the items at the Beverly Hills location. So this afternoon I called HA and was told the items from Saturday and Sunday's auctions are already on their way back to Dallas and that I should have notified them by Friday that I wanted to pick them up in Beverly Hills. Apparently the woman created a new account for me instead of attaching it to my online HA account. The woman on the phone today first told me the items weren't all in Beverly Hills, I told her funny but I physically examined them on Friday there. I told her she should pull my auction registration form I filled out Friday in Beverly Hills and she'll see I did check the pick-up box. So now I have to wait until it arrives in Dallas so they can ship it back to me here and pay to ship on top of the wait. Not very professional and probably my last experience with HA. I'll let others stick with the OA collecting.