AbsoluteCarnage

I don't think SCS could do what's on that book 

Bottom back corner of this recently sold or ended ebay Mark Jewelers ASM CGC 9.8 301 sale? Seen some crappy 9.8s but this book is a nightmare to get CGC to 9.8. Take what you will and investigate. Not sure if it was just a hatchet grading job or something's up..............

Amazing Spider-Man Mark Jewelers #301MJ CGC 9.8 1988 3806823004 | eBay

On 12/25/2023 at 10:49 AM, wombat said:

CGC preparing their response. 

On 12/24/2023 at 12:48 PM, migmtl76 said:

Now every ASM 252 CGC 9.8 looks suspicious to me... currently on eBay (see pics).

I guess buy the book not the grade applies all to well here.

That couldn't possibly be a swiped book.

Judging by the ebay seller name, they may have glasses for U that while wearing will avoid being able to see this nasty ding.

Got a good show for you tho I'll pm ya

 @kimik you're probably like me just wanting the best Sci fi stuff to drop. We get what we get ;-) Argue with ya on that show but no point. We all have our opinions. 

finished it and loved it. Good show so far

I've been looking myself. Keep at it more people looking into this the better. Look for qualified books sold 1-2 moths back and roll from there. Possibly purple restored books Who really knows what's going on?

On 12/24/2023 at 3:52 AM, agamoto said:

Most of the books I've found on worthpoint relied on that "$$$ and Hard work" line. This is NOT one of those books that contains that phrase. That tells me there may be a whole lot more books out there this seller has touched. The seller location jives with one of the known addresses. While the shill bidding/manipulation was certainly going on for many years, I'm not so sure about the label swapping/reholdering. I think that didn't get wings until 2021-ish. 

Pandora's box. Hopefully less than we are praying it's not 

On 12/24/2023 at 3:47 AM, Buzzetta said:

Almost 4am here... Everything done and FINALLY headed to bed.  Same to you. 

have a good sleep brother

hard to keep up with this stuff. Ongoing nightmare. Wish you all the best and happy holidays to all ;-)

On 12/23/2023 at 11:53 PM, Steven Valdez said:

I suggested they put hologram stickers on all 4 edges but the moderator said that would be a 'waste of time'. I still wonder why he would say such a thing.

not a bad suggestion.  I amped it up with comic link stickers Plus 1700X adhesion about ahhhhh 50-60 pages back. I think my follow up was based on your original suggestion tho

On 12/23/2023 at 9:19 PM, AbsoluteCarnage said:

BRIVA .... Illegal Shift. 10 Yard penalty and automatic 1st down errr ahhh refund of funky ebay sales

redirecting this to youtuber Illegal shift. Sorry was watching football during the comments 

On 12/23/2023 at 9:09 PM, sledgehammer said:

Agreed. Is that that Automatic Comics dope again?

He said the 2 ASM books might be the same copy. "Shifting"

BRIVA .... Illegal Shift. 10 Yard penalty and automatic 1st down errr ahhh refund of funky ebay sales

On 12/23/2023 at 7:50 PM, Roo_Phillip said:

I like yours better!  

Ah you mentioned it  Spidey on Aphrodite I guess. I liked my guess as well. Guess they both work

On 12/23/2023 at 4:52 PM, Roo_Phillip said:

Geek on a Greek?

Football time anyway  

On 12/23/2023 at 4:32 PM, MAR1979 said:

Seems CGC has just tested best way out of this mess without responding

 

got something similar 

On 12/23/2023 at 4:25 PM, mephistopheles said:

The blue label indicates that the MVS is intact... at least it used to. I wouldn't buy a 181 graded before CGC fixes their processes.

Yeah exactly. Same here. Guess adding it at this point would make the other blue labels look like they don't have it so probably not a good option at any rate. Free resubs on any questionable books that ppl were worried about hopefully with some form of compensation if something was not as it should be would be a start. We'll see what transpires though.

New Hulk 181 submissions should come with a "Marvel Value Stamp Intact" on the label....

On 12/23/2023 at 3:47 PM, sledgehammer said:

Make no assumptions about where this might go.

The same Purple label Hulk 8.0 cert # that sold on 11/21 for $2.040, sold on December 11th for $3,800.

There's money in everything, including lower grade purple reholdered in to a higher grade slab.

Speaking of books sold on December 11th.... 

Recent purchase though so likely wouldn't get through at this point.

Jokes aside, there's much good detective work being done in the thread itself so if anything, it gives CGC areas (Books) to view and figure out more from their end if nothing else. 

The over under date is likely January 2nd for a CGC reply 

On 12/23/2023 at 11:23 AM, trademarkcomics said:

I feel this is still localized within the CGC fan community and spreading slightly elsewhere. Casual collectors(which still make up the bulk of potential CGC customers) are completely unaware of this situation. Until it hits the media, it's not going to have any measurable impact. Google "CGC" then hit the news tab and all that comes up is a publicly traded pot company. 

 

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