akaSteveRogers

My - DC is right. #54 is a team-up, not a team. The team isn't founded until #60.

 

It's the same as Sub-Mariner #34-35. Yes, it has Hulk, Sub-Mariner and Silver Surfer teaming up. But they aren't the Defenders until Marvel Feature #1, when they gain both Dr. Strange and the name "Defenders." The Teen Titans aren't the Teen Titans until #60, when they gain the team name and are joined by fellow founder Wonder Girl.

 

There's no confusion over the first Defenders; the Sub-Mariner issues are seen as a prototype. The same should be true for B&B #54 and #60.

Isnt there a simliar case with the original Defenders? They teamed-up in each others titles (Sub-Mariner, Incredible Hulk and Doctor Strange) in a crossover event before subsequently appearing as the Defenders officially in Marvel Feature #1?

 

I think Sub-Mariner #34 is even labeled "prelude to 1st Defenders" or something of the sort.

Should have read all the posts...

I dont know any of those members but this thread has some sweeeet JAs! Wow.

if anyone ever lets go of there #5...

Isnt there a simliar case with the original Defenders? They teamed-up in each others titles (Sub-Mariner, Incredible Hulk and Doctor Strange) in a crossover event before subsequently appearing as the Defenders officially in Marvel Feature #1?

I think Sub-Mariner #34 is even labeled "prelude to 1st Defenders" or something of the sort.

Finally got my hands on this baby. Im not a huge fan of miswraps, but white spine on white cover didnt bother me as much as it normally would if it was a colored cover. Also, the fresh white pages and near flawless front/back cover helped to make up for it.

In the process of getting one of these as well. I'll post a pic once finalized.

What grade would you give this?

Hard pressed to find another cover to surpass this as my all-time favorite Iron Man cover. D&M book too...

another early Blade appearance (and cover).

Tomb of Dracula #42 Suscha News

Some pages from the 1975 calendar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some classic art...

Don and Maggie Thompson have an amazing and important history as part of the comic book industry. In 1960 they put out a mimeographed one-sheet called Harbinger, it told about their upcoming project, one of the earliest fanzines called Comic Art. The fanzine ran irregularly from 1961 to 1968. In 1967 they started another magazine called Newfangles where they focus on the comic fans instead of the industry news. The two are sometimes called the “George and Martha Washington of comics fandom” for how much they brought the fans closer to the creators over the years.

 

The couple had started a series of fan awards that then got picked up by a publication called The Comic Buyers Guide, a trade newspaper created by Alan Light in 1971. The fan awards appeared in issue 14 and by issue 19 the Thompsons began writing a column called Beautiful Balloons that would run in alternating issues. In 1983, Light sold CBG to Krause Publication and the Thompson’s were hired as co-editors. With their hiring the production values of the paper went up, the format became more stable, the fan awards were brought back and things we take for granted now were created like a highly detailed list of what was shipping week to week.

 

CBG130301CVRUPC.inddThe couple continued writing and editing for the magazine until Don’s health began to fail in 1993, writing some of his final reviews from a hospital bed. He passed away in May of 1994 at the age of 58. He had reviewed more than 10,000 comics in his career. When word of his passing got out, the first condolence note was faxed in by Neil Gaiman.

 

Maggie would continue editing CBG until the beginning of this year when the magazine ceased publication. She has since started writing a regular column for the San Diego Comic Con and has a website/blog of her own. http://www.maggiethompson.com/

 

As you would expect in over fifty years of being in the comic industry and being fans, the Thompson’s amassed an impressive collection of comics and original art. That collection is being put up for auction in two separate events, the first will be held November 21st – 23rd in Beverly Hills, CA. The second will be February 2014 in Dallas, TX.

 

It’s being referred to by Heritage Auctions as the $1 Million Don/Maggie Thompson Pedigree Collection and its part of the 1,700 lots of comics they’ll be auctioning off later this month. Among the pieces being auction is a copy of The Avengers #1 (CGC NM 9.4) considered one of the finest copies out there and estimated to bring in $80,000 plus.

Thanks Surfer!! (thumbs u

Ftr I like CGC. I just don't get why people don't vote for change with their wallets. Stop subbing for awhile. I guarantee the world will not come to a crashing halt. Demand they address their lateness issue. Continuing to give them money doesn't effect change.

...this. X 100.

I haven't subbed in 2 years...and that was with my coupons.

Lots of sweet books...noticed tons of Don and Maggie books flying around (I picked one up myself). Whats the story behind these?

On a Brother Voodoo roll right now...

 

Now you need to pick up ToD 35.

 

 

Just worked out something for this Suscha News copy...

On a Brother Voodoo roll right now...

 

Now you need to pick up ToD 35.

On a Brother Voodoo roll right now... as Im scooping up some more early appearances. This baby is a Bowling Green copy of him vs Werewolf by Night.

set a max bid price on an auction before I left the country for my bday. When I get back home, I check my inbox and see an invoice for my book waiting for me...

 

and for less than my max bid no less! Happy Birthday to me!

 

 

 

Just added this baby to the stash, last Brother Voodoo in title. From the Tongie Farm collection.

 

 

 

Very nice.

 

Thanks. It's actually a Tongie Farm too.

sweet. No Tongie sticker? Not a big sticker guy, but for some reason I like those. Maybe because it looks like the CGC hologram. So it blends in.

What are those Tongie's like? They sure look nice, but I am put off by some of the ridiculous prices being asked.

I still have yet to get this in hand to see. But I can't wait.

You're right about some of those Tongie prices. Im late to the game with this collection, so a few of the books I wanted were already scooped up. But I got this for a very reasonable price.

Horror?

[font:Century Gothic]STRANGE TALES #173 Tongie Farm collection. Last brother Voodoo. First Black Talon.[/font]

IH #181 in HG?

I collect what I like and have no interest whatsoever in Cerebus.

set a max bid price on an auction before I left the country for my bday. When I get back home, I check my inbox and see an invoice for my book waiting for me...

 

and for less than my max bid no less! Happy Birthday to me!

 

 

Just added this baby to the stash, last Brother Voodoo in title. From the Tongie Farm collection.

Exactly. You don't need someone to hold your hand. Do research. Decide for yourself. The market is what it is, and precious few can directly influence it, much less control it. However, no individual needs the market to decide for them what they should, or should not, think about any given issue, for any reason.

You make it seem like everyone else is so simple minded for not wanting to spend their precious time trying to figure out if OS, or CGC are right or wrong, when all they want to do is trust what CGC puts on a label. People have plenty of other things to do than take a day researching when a character appeared first.

Wow. More power to you but I don't have money to just throw hundreds, (in some cases, a couple thousand) on a book because CGC told me its a first appearance without making sure myself. Especially these days where info is a computer, tablet...even cellphone away.

I guess people really do just buy the label (and the cover). Who cares what's inside.

Iron Man #118, Jim Rhodes panels on last page....

 

This is false. It's on page 5 of 18.

 

oops...you're right, its not on the last page. But the point was these are the only panels. Doesnt change that important fact. Being on the last page or page 5 or page 12 really doesnt affect the point.

 

But thanks for correcting that.

 

He's named, his job is identified, he's wearing a yellow hat and he has a big thumbs up. Sounds like a first app to me!

this..

I said this in my previous post. I believe this appropriate for a supporting character, which he clearly was at that point in time. I think we are getting carried away to expect 1st brief...then 1st full appearance of every supporting character.

What's next 1st brief and full appearance of "Happy" Hogan or Pepper Potts?

Iron Man #118, Jim Rhodes panels on last page....

 

This is false. It's on page 5 of 18.

oops...you're right, its not on the last page. But the point was these are the only panels. Doesnt change that important fact. Being on the last page or page 5 or page 12 really doesnt affect the point.

But thanks for correcting that.

Iron Man #118, Jim Rhodes panels...

EDIT: removed "on the last page."

I'm not as familiar with #118 at the moment to discuss it intelligently. I am aware that it is considered his first appearance. However, if he appears less than Gamora, it should be considered a cameo.

Not sure I agree with this one, since Rhodes was not "War Machine" James Rhodes back then. He was Stark's pilot. He was simply a supporting character and was for some quite some time. He took over as Iron Man, I believe, 50 issues later, then ultimately became War Machine another 100 issues later after that. These elements raised his profile.

Are we saying that a supporting character needs a splash page, some action shots (in full garb) and a cover? Maybe CGC recognizes that we don't, hence Iron Man #118 is simply labeled "1st appearance of James Rhodes."

XMen 282 & 283 may be a good point of reference as well, gentlemen.

Last I remember, 282 was the higher $ book right?