No depressing world here - and I can be very forgiving. But I also realize when someone keeps showing the same poor character flaws there is a very strong potential for that activity to get worse - not better.
And after all he did, and folks still kept forgiving him - including Divad who tried to pull him off the probation list - he then goes and screws over Steve Borock and his business by tampering with his business cell phone message.
So it is a world of reality. Sorry to hit you with a dose of it.
Pay very close attention to the words I am about to type, Bosco, because they are incredibly important and bear a TREMENDOUS amount of weight to this situation:
CAP FREAK IS A KID.
He's, what, 19 now?
Are you even aware that people do not finish developing (man, I sound like a wacky liberal) until their mid 20's?
Cap Freak, like all kids, got away with what he got away with because people trusted him with more than he was capable of handling (obviously!)
Stupid kids deserve the right to grow up.
If he was 30, I would agree with you. He is not. He was a kid.
Should he be given a VERY short leash? Oh, you betcha. Should he be made to provide restitution to everyone he wronged, to THEIR satisfaction? Oh, you betcha. Should he be trusted with ANYTHING until he has demonstrated consistently, over a VERY long period of time, that he's capable of that trust? Hell no!
Does he deserve to be on the HOS when he's 40?
Please.
I hear you about him being a kid. A kid that was given more breaks than probably anyone has been given on here. Even people working with him after the Probation List entry to show they were still in his corner. And he still blew it twice-over.
Is it very sad to see what occurred? Of course it is.
Does it make me pity him? Sure - but don't the victims deserve the same concern?
At 17-19 years old, if you still keep burning yourself and others, you need a very strong wake up call to help leave a lasting impression why to change your ways. He will probably make a great addition to another forum one day when he matures. With this one, he did too much damage to be allowed back on as a buyer or a seller.
I would not make the HOS a lifetime sentence, but there should be a list there which would include all names that have ever been put on the HOS list.
Sure, if someone at some point really could make up for how they got on the HOS list, allow them forgiveness. But I would maintain a notation or notes about their past, in that HOS list. Have a poll of members to allow them back in, after what ever restitution. But always have their name visible in the HOS list, place a huge neon sign next to forgiven HOS members which points to details of their rehabilitation. It should be like having a sex offender always registered with local authorities. Don't hang a sign around their heads, or in their signature, but be sure that their past history isn't wiped clean or invisible.