Dale Roberts

That would be outstanding for me. I have books to post right now, but I am refraining simply to appease the complainers. If this forum is truly to sell books, it would make sales that much more effective and easier.

 

Hey Arch,

 

Let's just set up a separate "Dale Roberts For Sale Forum". I mean he's just a nice guy and everything, and he just wants to sell some books . . . so what's the big deal?

 

Let's cut him some slack and build his website for him right here in River City

 

Cool

Yeah, I know what he was trying to do. But by using the quotation marks, he is indicating that I said EXACTLY that. Not really very honest in my opinion.

 

Jeez guy do you have some type of persecution complex? That's essentially what you said in three posts. Next time I'll add "essentially" so you won't think everyone's ganging up on you...

 

Jim

 

Would it be right of me to quote you in this way?

"I don't care what Dale thinks and I don't care what the moderator thinks, and I don't care what the guidelines are, this is what I think needs to happen", because that is essentially the same thing you did to me.

 

Change that to caring about what the mod thinks and the spirit of the guidelines and I have no problem with it... (thumbs u

 

Jim

Thats kind of the point though right?? Quotations mean a direct quote. And since that is not what you said or think, then it is not really appropriate.

Yeah, I know what he was trying to do. But by using the quotation marks, he is indicating that I said EXACTLY that. Not really very honest in my opinion.

 

Jeez guy do you have some type of persecution complex? That's essentially what you said in three posts. Next time I'll add "essentially" so you won't think everyone's ganging up on you...

 

Jim

Would it be right of me to quote you in this way?

"I don't care what Dale thinks and I don't care what the moderator thinks, and I don't care what the guidelines are, this is what I think needs to happen", because that is essentially the same thing you did to me.

As you stated, more than 2 is your "opinion". How am I, or anyone else for that matter, going to know (or base our decisions) on your opinions? I am sure other people have opinions about it as well. Many(most?) of them are on my side.

 

The guidelines are there for a reason. If they need to be changed, then address it that way and I will play by the rules just like everyone else.

 

Is it bullheaded to stand up for myself? I am not trying to be a bad guy. But I do feel like I am being targeted for some reason, and I am certain that I am not in the wrong. So I will do what I think is right.

 

You aren't the first to be called out for multiple threads so you can can the victim angle. There's a reason people mentioned your multiple threads...that's because others in the past have taken advantage of doing so. It's common courtesy as well. You aren't the only seller in the Marketplace and creating multiple threads put them at a disadvantage...especially considering who you are...

 

I and others were polite when we posted about the threads. You responded with "I don't see it in the rules, so I'll do whatever I want" instead of asking why. I take it you don't take constructive criticism well...

 

Jim

I am not running any angle. I am not trying to be the only seller in the market place. If you look at the first 3 pages, there will be at least 50 other sellers represented. If it were nighttime instead of noon, there would probably be 50 others in front of my posts.

I don't question that most people were polite when posting about the thread. I simply disagree that I did anything inappropriate. What would you do in that circumstance. When the first post came up, I immediately went back and read the guidelines. I politely responded to Divad after that.

Taking constructive criticism and jumping everytime someone says something to me are two entirely different things.

I understand that we disagree. And thats not a problem for me. I have no hard feelings about it. Each is entitled to his opinion. If the moderator determines that I am wrong, I will certainly abide by his ruling.

I don't think he intended it as a quotation, but more of an interpretive paraphrase.

 

Hey Dale, while your here...do you have any really sweet GGA GA books hanging around.....or do you mainly deal in SA and forward? Just curious.

 

Yeah, I know what he was trying to do. But by using the quotation marks, he is indicating that I said EXACTLY that. Not really very honest in my opinion.

No, I have quite a bit of GA actually. I have about 7 boxes of GA, and about 5 boxes of Precode horror. I don't have alot of GGA books in high grade, with the exception of Fiction House. But I do have several Fox books, lots of Matt Baker stuff (mostly St John), and stuff like that.

As you stated, more than 2 is your "opinion". How am I, or anyone else for that matter, going to know (or base our decisions) on your opinions? I am sure other people have opinions about it as well. Many(most?) of them are on my side.

 

The guidelines are there for a reason. If they need to be changed, then address it that way and I will play by the rules just like everyone else.

 

Is it bullheaded to stand up for myself? I am not trying to be a bad guy. But I do feel like I am being targeted for some reason, and I am certain that I am not in the wrong. So I will do what I think is right.

 

You aren't the first to be called out for multiple threads so you can can the victim angle. There's a reason people mentioned your multiple threads...that's because others in the past have taken advantage of doing so. It's common courtesy as well. You aren't the only seller in the Marketplace and creating multiple threads put them at a disadvantage...especially considering who you are...

 

I and others were polite when we posted about the threads. You responded with "I don't see it in the rules, so I'll do whatever I want" instead of asking why. I take it you don't take constructive criticism well...

 

Jim

If you are going to quote me, please do so correctly. If you are just going to paraphrase me, please do not use the quotation marks, because it is extremely disingenuous of you.

I would hate for that to reflect badly on you.

OK, I have to leave, HOWEVER as per Arch's wonderful memo, I'm taking this to the discussion board...

 

How many threads per day is too many...?

 

More than two in my opinion.

 

And just to be clear, I politely mentioned Dale's three threads in one day and why it might not be a good idea. He has decided to be pretty bullheaded about the matter...very similiar to what happened in his other pulled sales thread.

 

Jim

 

Oh, there's a surprise.

 

Tell you what...I'm going to start a new thread every time I have more than twenty books to sell. I'll have the whole front page all to myself, 24/7.

 

Or I could decide to be reasonable and fair to everyone else and just keep using the same thread until it reaches...oh, let's say 270 pages.

 

270 pages of drek :cloud9:

 

That's the point...it's not all been drek. I've posted a Batman #84 in there, Neal Adams X-Men, FF from about #20 through to #200...and just about anything inbetween.

 

 

 

Ah, what's the ing point...be on the look-out for as many threads as I feel like starting on any given evening. (thumbs u

 

(worship) (worship)

 

Well, I'm not all that bright I guess...I can't handle more than 1 thread, let alone 2, but I figure 2 should be max per day, just to be kind . I suppose if I wanted to do three, I'd just wait a day or two, then again, I've never been macho;)

 

I also find as a shopper, I get lost with so many threads and I do try to look at as many as I can.

 

The other problem is, honestly, I hate stepping on people's toes and having to explain myself if I post something in a thread about perhaps being considerate, I find upsetting...

 

I may still try and do it, but it's not fun....I don't like being the bad guy/person, pointing stuff out, and that was never the intent...I doubt it is for most people...however, it seems that is how it is perceived by some...

 

The answer to me is...no good deed, ...so...everyone have a beer, soda, cookie (oh and I picked up pizza, too...non of this online food has any calories btw;) so.....group hug...

 

Dale you are welcome to have a slice as well, I certainly, for one, do not intend to single you out....but I suppose I never noticed anyone else starting 3 threads within a few hours...if I do see that, I will say something to the other person, even though I don't really feel like saying anything anymore.

 

 

No problem. I respect your opinion. However, let me point out, that is was not like the threads started on top of each other. One started yesterday about 11:00. One started later in the day. And one started about 10:15 last night. By the time I started the last thread, the other 2 were off the board.

 

And the guideline talks about spamming and attempting to take over the front page. In no way, under no one's wildest imagination did I do anything even similar to this. I simply had 3 completely different types of material to list and felt the most effective way to sell them was to list them under different threads. I have NOT bumped any of them, and the MISC stuff for sale thread is probably on page 5 by now.

 

[font:Century Gothic]What about making sub-topics, like the one for the VCC, that will cater to specific types of sales: SS, Gold, Silver, etc... I don't know if this will make it any simpler, but it would create a venue where you could have more than one sales thread on the front page, but of different genres/periods.

 

What say you?[/font]

That would be outstanding for me. I have books to post right now, but I am refraining simply to appease the complainers. If this forum is truly to sell books, it would make sales that much more effective and easier.

OK, I have to leave, HOWEVER as per Arch's wonderful memo, I'm taking this to the discussion board...

 

How many threads per day is too many...?

 

More than two in my opinion.

 

And just to be clear, I politely mentioned Dale's three threads in one day and why it might not be a good idea. He has decided to be pretty bullheaded about the matter...very similiar to what happened in his other pulled sales thread.

 

Jim

 

Oh, there's a surprise.

 

Tell you what...I'm going to start a new thread every time I have more than twenty books to sell. I'll have the whole front page all to myself, 24/7.

 

Or I could decide to be reasonable and fair to everyone else and just keep using the same thread until it reaches...oh, let's say 270 pages.

 

270 pages of drek :cloud9:

 

That's the point...it's not all been drek. I've posted a Batman #84 in there, Neal Adams X-Men, FF from about #20 through to #200...and just about anything inbetween.

 

 

 

Ah, what's the ing point...be on the look-out for as many threads as I feel like starting on any given evening. (thumbs u

 

(worship) (worship)

 

Well, I'm not all that bright I guess...I can't handle more than 1 thread, let alone 2, but I figure 2 should be max per day, just to be kind . I suppose if I wanted to do three, I'd just wait a day or two, then again, I've never been macho;)

 

I also find as a shopper, I get lost with so many threads and I do try to look at as many as I can.

 

The other problem is, honestly, I hate stepping on people's toes and having to explain myself if I post something in a thread about perhaps being considerate, I find upsetting...

 

I may still try and do it, but it's not fun....I don't like being the bad guy/person, pointing stuff out, and that was never the intent...I doubt it is for most people...however, it seems that is how it is perceived by some...

 

The answer to me is...no good deed, ...so...everyone have a beer, soda, cookie (oh and I picked up pizza, too...non of this online food has any calories btw;) so.....group hug...

 

Dale you are welcome to have a slice as well, I certainly, for one, do not intend to single you out....but I suppose I never noticed anyone else starting 3 threads within a few hours...if I do see that, I will say something to the other person, even though I don't really feel like saying anything anymore.

 

No problem. I respect your opinion. However, let me point out, that is was not like the threads started on top of each other. One started yesterday about 11:00. One started later in the day. And one started about 10:15 last night. By the time I started the last thread, the other 2 were off the board.

And the guideline talks about spamming and attempting to take over the front page. In no way, under no one's wildest imagination did I do anything even similar to this. I simply had 3 completely different types of material to list and felt the most effective way to sell them was to list them under different threads. I have NOT bumped any of them, and the MISC stuff for sale thread is probably on page 5 by now.

OK, I have to leave, HOWEVER as per Arch's wonderful memo, I'm taking this to the discussion board...

 

How many threads per day is too many...?

 

More than two in my opinion.

 

And just to be clear, I politely mentioned Dale's three threads in one day and why it might not be a good idea. He has decided to be pretty bullheaded about the matter...very similiar to what happened in his other pulled sales thread.

 

Jim

This is NOT at all similar to the other thead. I was in clear violation of the guidelines, simply because I did not take the time to read them. However, I went and read the guidelines and this in NO WAY violates any of them.

As you stated, more than 2 is your "opinion". How am I, or anyone else for that matter, going to know (or base our decisions) on your opinions? I am sure other people have opinions about it as well. Many(most?) of them are on my side.

The guidelines are there for a reason. If they need to be changed, then address it that way and I will play by the rules just like everyone else.

Is it bullheaded to stand up for myself? I am not trying to be a bad guy. But I do feel like I am being targeted for some reason, and I am certain that I am not in the wrong. So I will do what I think is right.

That would be fine with me. By the way, I never stated you were the only one. You were the only one who was a jerk about it. In fact, YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME CLOSING THE THREAD. GACollectibles is who point out that I made a mistake, and he was really the only one. I talked to him several time by PM and through posts and I closed the thread within about 15 minutes of our discussion about it.

You are obviously deluded by your self-importance and it is blinding your memory and your judgement.

[Which is probably why you don't have guys like me listing stuff on here. It is really more trouble than it is worth, especially when you have to deal with people like Joe.

 

I find it quite hilarious that Jocko here keeps dragging me out as the big bad guy, when SEVERAL PEOPLE helped point out his OBVIOUS RULE-BREAKING, and by the time I came along, they had ALREADY CHASED HIS SORRY HASS off the forums.

 

But instead of highlighting the FACT that he was LAMBASTED by a GROUP of forum members for his transgressions, it's far safer to keep TROLLING and NAMING me alone.

 

I guess that makes it seem safer, portraying me as the lone gunman, rather than the reality of a group effort long before I even saw the thread.

 

I was clearly in the wrong, even tho that was not my intent.

 

Yeah, convenient that the thread is gone huh. Make it that much easier for you to make up lies and try to support your pathetic sorry existence.

 

And you really changed your tune since Arch totally deleted your thread. Where are the complaints about the "stupid rules" and how you "didn't do anything wrong"?

Yeah, convenient that the thread is gone huh. Make it that much easier for you to make up lies and try to support your pathetic sorry existence.

...azzkissing, inbred, dealer-loving, kow-towing, knucklehead...

Hey, I think that accurately describes what went on in the Dale Roberts thread.

Actually, the thread was closed by the seller in a more or less mature fashion when the rules were pointed out, and the thread was dead. Then, you lumbered in... ...and it went downhill. Sorry if that doesn't agree with your version of what happened, but that's exactly how that thread evolved. (thumbs u

Thanks Doc. I appreciate the support. I hope you know that JC will probably now label you in some way, but I can't imagine it bothers you anymore than it does me.

I was clearly in the wrong, even tho that was not my intent. I was trying to use a short cut to get some items listed, and pass some deals along to forum members. It obviously came back to bite me in the butt. But honestly, you really don't sell enough on the forums to waste a day scanning 100 books. Which is probably why you don't have guys like me listing stuff on here. It is really more trouble than it is worth, especially when you have to deal with people like Joe.

...azzkissing, inbred, dealer-loving, kow-towing, knucklehead...

 

 

Hey, I think that accurately describes what went on in the Dale Roberts thread. If a newbie tried the same thing, he'd be run out of town on a rail, and his thread deleted in a NY minute, but because it's a dealer that some on here are friends with...

This is a complete misrepresentation of the situation. I basically am a newbie, at least as far as for sale threads. I have run 3 or 4 ever, and never had any problem until this time. Has nothing to do with being a dealer. I simply was unaware of the strictness of guidelines. I was selling duplicate CGC graded books, exactly the same grade and page quality of the books for sale in my store. And offering a discount to forumites. If a book sold, I was going to sell the book which was scanned, remove the scan from my item in my ebay store, and scan the duplicate, replacing the book in my store. Figured it was a short cut, and I did NOT realize it was any violation of rules, regardless of what JC says.

Gene Colan

Gil Kane

Bob Layton

Mike Grell

Alan Davis

I can't believe that JC is actually trying to play the victim here. Poor Joe. He never does anything to anyone. Everyone just picks on him.

Yes, I was wrong in the way I handled the books I offered. I explained it very clearly and even showed pics of both books scanned together. Regardless, when my mistakes had been pointed out to me, I voluntarily closed the thread, long before JC started making comments from the peanut gallery.

What is the point once I have closed the thread? Other than to just be antagonistic. Especially when it is over and over and over on a thread which by all accounts would have been dead and gone if he had stayed out of it.

FT, I am not an "experienced" board seller. I have offered items 3 or 4 times at most (and sold very little). This is the first time I have gone about it in this way, and I learned something. I was simply trying to move a little excess inventory and pass some good deals along to forumites.

I guess I probably received 20 or so PMs, all positive and most critical of people like JC (mostly specifically JC) and others who were not even going to buy anything, but just wanted to police the board. I politely told all of them thanks for the support, but I would try to follow board rules more closely next time.

This doesn't make what I did any more right. But you don't have to beat a dead horse either, and sometime it would be better to just let something go, as to keep on and on about it.

Thank you I think that what is being stated is that there are non-antagonistic ways to inform sellers that there are fairly strict guidelines to follow for selling in the marketplace.

 

But in this case it wouldn't have mattered, as Dale never admitted he broke any rules, and even slammed the Sales Guidelines themselves.

 

Some people will never listen, and if someone wants to post on the CGC Forums, and NOT follow CGC rules, then we should be free to point this out to them, especially those that have been around and were obviously trying to circumvent them.

This is completely untrue. There are several posts by me which stated that I was in violation of the rules, which I did not know about, because I had never taken the time to read all the guidelines. Again, my fault.

Believe me, if I thought I had not broken the rules, the thread would still be up, or at least I would have not ended the thread voluntarily.

www.dalerobertscomics.com

Thursday Night at 9:00 Central Time, going to be listing some CGC 9.4, 9.6, 9.8 Bronze Age DC & Marvel Horror & War. Check it out.

Weds night between 8:30 - 9:00 pm CST, I will be listing somewhere around 30 Silver Age DCs, all CGC graded 9.4, 9.6. Many of the books are highest certified, and some are the single highest graded copy. Titles include Action, Adventure, Batman, Detective, Flash, Superboy, Jimmy Olsen, and Lois Lane and maybe an odd book or two.

Kudos to Dale Roberts for a nice IM annual.

Thanks, Tim was very easy to work with.

I am going to be posting some 9.4 & 9.6 Silver Age DCs tonight in the sales forum thread. Probably starting around 9:30 EST, maybe a little later, depending on what I have going on. Thanks

Not really my cup of tea, but I saw this thread and it made me think....Bill Hughes has 6 bound volumes of Weird Tales pulps in his current auction. You can access it right here if it is any good...

http://www.vintagecollectables.net/auctions.php

Some great covers there, Dale!

unfortunately there will be no more....some people have to ruin the fun for everyone......hopefully I won't ever see anyone trying to purchase a book not in the appropriate place......I might have to mention it to someone.

Not like I am offering the books for sale on here. I love this thread myself. Just wanted to share some images and if the store gets advertised a little, so be it.

Hopefully will have some more later this week. I will just post the images and skip the commentary, maybe everyone will be happy.