Dale Roberts

I was watching WW2 in HD on the History Channel a few weeks ago, and there were several episodes that showed soldiers reading comics. I think there were 12 - 18 episodes. Great series by the way.

If the book is restored by a professional restoration/conservation expert, then I would consider them equal value. However, our hobby places a stigma on such books and hence the market adjusts accordingly. Personally, an expertly restored book where paper has been deacidified, spines reinforced, tears sealed, etc., one could even argue is now in a better state than a non-restored copy with soiling, tears, rolls, etc.

 

A non-professional restored book? I wouldn't touch it in a million years.

 

I feel the only type of "bad" restoration is the kind that removes anything from the book i.e. trimming.

 

This is pretty much my own feeling... The only thing I would add is that the extensiveness of the restoration should play a part in determining final value, i.e.

 

Professional, slight = 90/100% of Universal

Professional, moderate = 60/90% of Universal

Professional, extensive = 40/60% of Universal

Amateur, slight = 40/80% of Universal

Amateur, moderate = 30/40% of Universal

Amateur, extensive = 10/30% of Universal

 

And then there are types of restoration to factor in, like, tear seals (+5%), colour touch(-10%), deacidification (+10%), pieces added (-20%), etc.

 

The above numbers are straight out of my arse, so are subject to change, derision, and revision at any time... but, they are my precise feelings on the subject of valuation of restoration.

 

Here's an example...

 

Marvel Mystery Comics #9 CGC 9.2 Restored, Professional, Moderate

 

Overstreet Guide Value is 58,000

Moderate restoration....... 52,200

 

Restoration includes

tear seals (3).................. 60,900

colour touch................... 54,810

pieces added (2)............. 43,938

staples replaced............. 41,741

deacidification................ 45,916 as the final value

It is not my intention to ruffle feathers, but the percentages in this equation are ridiculous.

Here is the correct equation. A + B = value where

A = value of the book in original condition, before the restoration

B = cost of the restoration

In some cases, you might add just a bit (in the case of an extremely rare book, or superb eye appeal, etc)

Example -

Amazing Fantasy #15 graded at 2.5 prior to restoration, app 8.0 EP afterwards.

A = GPA 2.5 = $3600.00

B = cost of restoration = $500.00

value = $4200.00

If you look at GPA, this is very close to what the value actually is.

Restoration should rarely ever make the book worth more(probably only in the case of a book which grades less than Good), only make it easier to sell and increase the eye appeal.

In my opinion, Amateur restoration generally should be counted as defect. If someone color touches a black book with a black magic marker, the book should be downgraded. Amateur restoration has no cost and is done with materials that are generally not archival. There should be NO bump in value over original condition and in some case be downgraded.

 

Great display!

 

What is this issue? Does the indicia title match the cover title?

I can't match it up with any cover at GCD. The hand-written note says #5, but there's a [nn] issue in that spot for Teen-Age Diary Secrets

. Maybe that one is an error.

 

Thanks,

Jack

 

Is that the other Blue Ribbon issue?

 

Duh.

Can you explain?

Do you mean the cover here or the one as [nn] at GCD?

I don't see any Blue Ribbon (publisher?) series at GCD. Link? Is this a case where the indicia title doesn't match the cover?

Sorry, but I'm working without an Overstreet or Gerber at hand in my convalescence or I'd figure it out myself.

 

Jack

Hey, I will have to look back at the books, but I remember when I got the books that the Overstreet is wrong on the numbering on some of the issues. I will take a look and try to figure it out again.

Speaking of hygeine, Roy, I am going to have to ask you to shave your back hair before you work for me again. And a hairnet might help too....

awesome pics

Hey, I have some GI Joe Special Missions in 9.6/9.8 and some Savage She Hulks and Super-Friends in the Gold/Silver/Bronze thread.

Getting ready to start a HUGE thread of Silver, Bronze, Copper books, all of which are CGC graded 9.4 - 9.8. Lots of highest graded books, lots of cheaper stuff too. Should be able to start listing some stuff Friday night, and maybe more over the weekend. Could be well over 200 books in this thread, depends upon how fast CGC ships stuff to me. I already have over 150 books scanned.

I picked a ton of stuff up before San Diego, I will be listing some of that soon. Unfortunately some of you guys who were at San Diego have already seen some of it, but you other guys should like it alot.

2002

towards2112, FlyingDonut, gman, ArAich, greggy, fingfangfoom, Chromium, supapimp, Bronzebruce13, CaptainOfIndustry, valiantman, drummy, nearmint, Zonker, Architect, dena, SilverandBronze, chrisco37, bronty, fantastic_four, mr_highgrade

2003

Scrooge, Earl, BrianR, WEBHEAD, goldust40, sckao, Theagenes, detective27kid, Flaming_Telepath, Aces, Silver, shiverbones, Silver, telerites*, sakaridis, 500Club, BurntBoy, seank

2004

xsmanx, JordanScott, r1970d, Stronguy, namisgr, Currin Comics, marvelcollector, toro, Buck Biggins, Norinn Radd, bounty_coder, iggy, nerfherder-3

2005

Sal, kingofrulers, Crows, Cryptkeeper59, theHumanTorch, John72tex, RockMyAmadeus, JmC, Benz

2006

joeypost, nepatkm, lookwhoitis, MCMiles, thirdgreenham, Monstro, TimMaY, DrWatson, Korvac Saga, Ciorac (2003*/2004*), Karma23, Superman2006

2007

BlowUpTheMoon, MacMan, Count, blue808, Mr. Diggler, trmoore54, cheetah, bosco685, MR. COMICBOOK, JazzMan, bronze_rules, Spidermanontilt, Designer Toast, TupennyConan, shark2557, snitzer, rtarturo, almoe, the shadow knows, cloudofwit, Dale Roberts

2008

Comicopolis, Boozad, Nmtg9, Dollarbill, PEP, Black Lantern, Junkenstein99, Cimm, ShortstackComics

2009

slym2none, ashsaytr

Going to start a raw book thread with Golden Age & Silver Age, and Bronze. Not sure when I will start it, maybe Friday night, maybe Saturday night.

Golden Age

Hogarth Tarzan books

Schomburg war covers

pre-code books including a few tough Avons

GGA with Baker covers

Worlds Finest

1 Action

Silver Age

DC War comics

Misc Hero stuff

Bronze Age (mostly high grade and mostly cheap)

Super-hero & Horror, both Marvel & DC

Archie is the man...

My Heroes haul.

 

 

First two were bought from a booth I did not think to get the name of, in my infinite wisdom. Leroy Harris? Something like that;

 

JLA 67. Book is purrrrrrtty. On the edge of my collecting interests, but the book's really, really nice

 

 

 

 

Doom Patrol 86. Tough, tough, tough book to find in anything above a VF. I think this makes the cut. Regardless, nicest copy I've seen in three years of looking

 

 

 

And the first book in a grail run for me, Phantom Stranger 4. As a normative HG collector, it's tough to justify buying a lower grade book, but this title's not exactly Amazing Spider-Man in terms of its scarcity. Many thanks to Dale Roberts for both being patient with me and giving me a hassle-free deal on the book. I can't recommend him enough if you're looking for tightly-graded, quality material. Can you feel the love?

 

I feel it!!! All the way from NC to KY.

I saw it... next to Dale Robert's comics...pretty funny!!!

It was surreal.....people kept coming up and asking for high grade romance comics.....

I will starting a raw book thread tonight with nice Silver Age Marvel & DC books and several picture frame Marvels. Grades range from 9.4 - 6.0. Some key books from the thread include Batman #251, Green Lantern #7 & 20, Avengers 93, 94, 96, Thor #193, several nice 80 page Actions with Supergirl, some nice SA Superman comics, and quite a bit of other stuff.

Depending upon how the thread goes, I might also continue with some new GA books that I have picked up, which includes DC heroes, a Timely, lots of GGA, and some other interesting stuff.

Then you boys should see all the stuff I have on the way back...

 

You've done this for a year now, so if you ever get the goods I don't hear about it unless I do a random drive by in your threads.

I will be at Charlotte.......

Just picked this up.

 

 

absolute rubish...can I take it off your hands

 

Possibly. Check back in a month or so. I just picked up a sweet raw copy that puts this to shame.

 

9.4 feels like 9.0 nowadays, don't it?

 

Too true. Would love all 9.6/9.8 copies but the 9.4's do just fine.

Then you boys should see all the stuff I have on the way back...

Gwen is one of my favorite characters from the book, but I voted no. I hate to see some insufficiently_thoughtful_person like Straczynski ruin the character further.

It`s only been 3 weeks. Too soon to out or conclude that the guy has definitely backed out of the deal. I can`t believe how impatient people are.

Reading comprehension.....its a wonderful thing..

He told me that he was NOT going to send payment. I am not impatient. I would have waited another week easy. I would have done time payments if he asked. I would have sold him one of the books instead of both. I am EASY to work with. You can ask anyone who has dealt with me.

If I do it, it is not because of the money itself, it is more on the principal of the matter and to help keep the sales forum a trustworthy place. I am sympathetic to someone wanting something more expensive than they can afford, but if people don't follow up on commitment to sales on the forum, it will basically become like ebay......ugh

Look, if the person had been up-front and asked if you were okay with time payments, worked out the details of length-of-time, and then at least provided a down payment as an act of good faith, we wouldn't be having this chat.

 

What this potential buyer did was lead you on for weeks when you could have sold this book already. That is not right, and any normal person would not want to be treated that way.

 

Burn the witch!

 

OK, going to contact him one more time....

How long does probation last and how does it end? What are his options?

If I do it, it is not because of the money itself, it is more on the principal of the matter and to help keep the sales forum a trustworthy place. I am sympathetic to someone wanting something more expensive than they can afford, but if people don't follow up on commitment to sales on the forum, it will basically become like ebay......ugh

OK, generally speaking, never had this problem on the boards before, but I have a customer who made a 1550.00 offer on 2 books, I agreed to the price, he told me that international money transfer through paypal takes a little while, then finally today tells me he doesn't have enough funds to purchase the 2 books and that he will pass.

 

What do I need to do to submit a name for probation on the forum and should I put this guy on the probation list? I hate to do it personally, as I guess he

probably legitimately doesn't have enough money, but he didn't even offer to just pick up one of the books, he just said he will pass on both.

 

 

how much time passed between the deal being struck and being told he would take a pass? based on "finally"- sounds like a while. if that's the case, i'd out him. if it was a week or so, personally, i'd grind my teeth and hold my tongue.

No, it has probably been right at 3 weeks now. He had me on hold waiting for a paypal transfer that never happened.

OK, generally speaking, never had this problem on the boards before, but I have a customer who made a 1550.00 offer on 2 books, I agreed to the price, he told me that international money transfer through paypal takes a little while, then finally today tells me he doesn't have enough funds to purchase the 2 books and that he will pass.

What do I need to do to submit a name for probation on the forum and should I put this guy on the probation list? I hate to do it personally, as I guess he

probably legitimately doesn't have enough money, but he didn't even offer to just pick up one of the books, he just said he will pass on both.