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On 2/1/2024 at 4:06 PM, The Lions Den said:

That tiny amount of wear could still be allowable in a 9.6...  

That's surprising to me. There's a significant color breaking tic and not sure what you call that long line. Plus the wear on the upper right top corner I feel like these combined and still getting a 9.6 questionable.

I'm curious if this Hulk 181 is the one where they created a duplicate label but with a higher grade. Can having these defects still score a 9.6? This was in a batch of 5 books submitted on 9/8/2023. One of the books sold on ebay from these folks. Grader's note only says "very small crease left top of back cover".

On 12/25/2023 at 8:37 AM, AbsoluteCarnage said:

Bottom back corner of this recently sold or ended ebay Mark Jewelers ASM CGC 9.8 301 sale? Seen some crappy 9.8s but this book is a nightmare to get CGC to 9.8. Take what you will and investigate. Not sure if it was just a hatchet grading job or something's up..............

 

Amazing Spider-Man Mark Jewelers #301MJ CGC 9.8 1988 3806823004 | eBay

 

Multiple MJ 9.8s in that submission

5/20/21

3806823003 - ASM 294 9.8 Mark Jewelers
3806823004 - ASM 301 9.8 Mark jewelers
3806823005 - ASM 303 9.8 Mark jewelers
3806823007 - ASM 306 9.8 Mark jewelers
3806823010 - ASM 308 9.8 Mark Jewelers

On 12/22/2023 at 7:08 AM, Iconic1s said:

You are correct, but this is just ANOTHER reason why the census is worthless MOST of the time. I’m not saying I have a problem with CPR, even though we know we’re “supposed” to return the cracked label  many don’t.  This guy just made it so much worse though, if he in fact did keep making a 9.8 back into a 9.8, so he could fraudulently turn lower grade books into “9.8 holdered” books.  Purpose of CPR (I thought) was to bump, lets say, your 9.4-9.6 to a 9.8 and be done with it.  if the book’s previous label isn’t returned that’s a bummer but not as bad as this guy adding numerous 9.8’s using the same book.

You guys know as well as I do that we often times base asking/offering prices on census population… for anyone collecting the kind of books he targeted, that tool just became as worthless as a hammer without a head.

I still think this is all on CGC for providing this window of opportunity. I looked carefully at CGC’s description of their holder and label last night and if you look carefully it’s really all about “preservation” and “presentation.”  I don’t really read anything about guaranteeing the holder’s contents as authentic, more that the holder itself is authentic.  Very clever I think!

It would be great if CGC gave a $5 credit towards grading or something to return labels. Keeps the census clean and incentivizes people to return CPR labels. It's a win-win. 

On 12/21/2023 at 2:39 PM, Prince Namor said:

Not by eBay.

It's much more likely eBay would go after the SELLER as having scammed someone to get any money back they may have reimbursed someone for that the seller wasn't able to. 

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out but eBay is not incentivized to do anything. Let's not forget they collected thousands in fees from these sales. Not sure what eBay would do for a buyer that purchased something months ago that was fraudulent. They might not even care. I've heard some horror stories from people dealing with their support. I will say that I work for a law enforcement agency and we have investigators that have worked with eBay for gathering evidence. eBay will provide that but of course this is because a law enforcement agency has brought up a case and is requesting the data. I don't see eBay cooperating if it's just a customer trying to resolve these fraudulent sales.

On 12/21/2023 at 2:20 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

Is this 181 from the same seller as the MJ inserts?

yes it's the same seller

oops did the wrong screenshot on the auctions

Oh wait never mind they did relist it.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought if an item is relisted it says so.

I'm thinking 9.0 - 9.2

ok cool, thank you

Hey guys, if your membership auto renews do you get another $150 credit towards grading?

On 7/31/2022 at 11:45 AM, King Farce said:

Why are you buying stuff in the CGC store? Why waste your money on that crap, use your own box and make your own window bags!

for what you get it's actually not that bad of a deal. I prefer to use the solid boxes they offer anyway plus it comes with bags and boards.

Customer service instructed me to to just add code "10OFF" at checkout for the discount to apply. While it didn't resolve why the discount didn't apply after entering my membership # the code did work properly so didn't inquire any further.

Most of the damage is color breaking so pressing wouldn't make much of difference but a cleaning would definitely help the grades. Also IMO not worth screening with older books since the grades may vary plus you need 25 books. I'd just get these guys slabbed. I'm jealous! Some great books to have in a collection!

I have a similar copy at CGC waiting for grading right now. Mine also had the weird yellowish color on the back so I think you are right about the color bleeding into the back. Depending on how CGC treats that coloring issue I'd say a 9.0 - 9.2

IMO I think this book has the potential to be a 9.2 - 9.4 with a press. Plus it's a newsstand so definitely worth it!

IMO 9.0 - 9.2. I looked at my copy to compare and you already mentioned the issues on the front but I see additional on the back. On the upper right corner it looks like there's some color rub in the blacks. Also on the left side parallel to the guy's knees there's color breaking creases. Plus the blunted corners and I'm leaning more 9.0 than 9.2. I added a pic of mine to compare. 

Hi everyone I was wondering if anyone knew how CGC treats printer defects? I have 3 newsstand copies of 442 and all of them have the same/similar printer defects. Pictured are 2 of them and while the blue blotch on the back bottom right is identical on all 3 the other defects are variations in the same areas. I haven't seen this defect on the direct additions and the limited other newsstand additions I saw online didn't have them either. So let's say I only sent one copy for grading. The blue blotch I'm sure they'd know was a printer defect but there are other ones that might be interpreted as maybe stains. I feel like you wouldn't really know until seeing another example with the similar markings or maybe the graders have seen enough to realize it's a printer defect. Just wanted pick your brains. Thank you for your time.

Hey everyone thanks for taking a minute to look. Overall I think this book looks good but it does have some color rub on the upper right. My biggest concern is the chunk missing on the back top right corner. How bad would that knock this down?

I had an unfortunate death in the family which required some time away so the package sat unopened for a bit. I missed the 30 day money back guarantee by a few days and I didn't pay via Paypal so no extension beyond the 30. Reached out to the seller anyway and they were unwilling to refund the purchase even though it was not as advertised. I guess I should have scrutinized the pics more. It was for a lot of Spiderman books and the pics were a bit grainy but the tear was definitely not there. I guess noob mistake since I don't really buy comics online. If it's in the 6 range I guess it's not really worth grading.

Hey guys I really need some advice. Long story short got duped with an eBay sale. Book was more damaged than pics appeared including a tear right in the middle of the cover. Return is not an option and it's been a nightmare. At this point I'm trying to recoup as much money as possible by possibly getting the book graded to sell. I'm planning to press it so some of the ticks will come out but a big concern is the tear by Spidey's leg. How bad would this get hammered? Thank you much!

Does anyone know why I'm not seeing the 10% discount for supplies at the CGC store? I registered for an account and entered my CGC membership number but the discount isn't applied at checkout. What am I missing?