comicnoir Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 That's why staple replacement is considered conservation rather than restoration. It keeps the book from deteriorating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, comicnoir said: That's why staple replacement is considered conservation rather than restoration. It keeps the book from deteriorating. How would they know if staples had been replaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, szavisca said: One more high grade Baker non romance that I got for less than guide ... just need a better copy of #3 now and I might be able to lay claim to having the finest WBT run outside of Sqeggs Manor... You're on fire nowcongrats! (i hear each book has its own shelf space for viewing enjoyment at Sqeegs Manor ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, sagii said: You're on fire nowcongrats! (i hear each book has its own shelf space for viewing enjoyment at Sqeegs Manor ) Are you kidding? Sqeggs is so disorganized that he probably can't find half his Bakers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: How would they know if staples had been replaced? Usually there's rust migration on the paper. If the staple looks clean with rust on paper around it, that's a clue. A friend asked me my opinion on a book he had on loan from the dealer. I looked and said the one staple (Timely) had been replaced. He bought it, got it graded, and it came back staple replaced. He returned it to the dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 11 hours ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: Are you kidding? Sqeggs is so disorganized that he probably can't find half his Bakers... Sad but true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 16 hours ago, Ricksneatstuff said: A lot of the “D” copies I have owned had rusty staples. A lot have foxing as well. Moving them to the garage after the theft hurt the condition of many copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exitmusicblue Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 All hail the Great One....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 hours ago, comicnoir said: Usually there's rust migration on the paper. If the staple looks clean with rust on paper around it, that's a clue. A friend asked me my opinion on a book he had on loan from the dealer. I looked and said the one staple (Timely) had been replaced. He bought it, got it graded, and it came back staple replaced. He returned it to the dealer. Thanks. What if there was no rust on the paper and the staple did not look "new"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayzen Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I just picked this up. How many of these do you see in the wild? I think there is only 1 in the census. Got to love this baker. Tri-Color Brian, jimjum12 and szucchini 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: 7 hours ago, comicnoir said: Usually there's rust migration on the paper. If the staple looks clean with rust on paper around it, that's a clue. A friend asked me my opinion on a book he had on loan from the dealer. I looked and said the one staple (Timely) had been replaced. He bought it, got it graded, and it came back staple replaced. He returned it to the dealer. Thanks. What if there was no rust on the paper and the staple did not look "new"? Then you may have sneaked one past the CGC graders, which I'm sure has happened. I think I remember Overstreet saying at one time that replacing rusty staples with vintage staples didn't constitute restoration, but CGC has explicitly ruled that out -- no blue label for a book with replaced staples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Dayzen said: I just picked this up. How many of these do you see in the wild? I think there is only 1 in the census. Got to love this baker. Very nice! Definitely a tough book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: Thanks. What if there was no rust on the paper and the staple did not look "new"? All right then look for widening in the holes where the staples go. It isn't tight after you take out and replace staples, although I'm sure they're working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, comicnoir said: All right then look for widening in the holes where the staples go. It isn't tight after you take out and replace staples, although I'm sure they're working on it. Now, I need to inspect every GA book I buy...thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 A friend of mine replaced staples in a book and submitted it...he got a blue label. He must be good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: A friend of mine replaced staples in a book and submitted it...he got a blue label. He must be good... I'm sure it happens and, as I mentioned, I believe Overstreet's old grading guide allowed it so long as the staples were vintage. I would guess even the occasional married cover or cf gets missed, although, obviously, it would be harder to pull one of those off. Not that us upstanding folks would ever try such a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Sqeggs said: I'm sure it happens and, as I mentioned, I believe Overstreet's old grading guide allowed it so long as the staples were vintage. I would guess even the occasional married cover or cf gets missed, although, obviously, it would be harder to pull one of those off. Not that us upstanding folks would ever try such a thing! Oh, I forgot...it was a married cover too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: 3 minutes ago, Sqeggs said: I'm sure it happens and, as I mentioned, I believe Overstreet's old grading guide allowed it so long as the staples were vintage. I would guess even the occasional married cover or cf gets missed, although, obviously, it would be harder to pull one of those off. Not that us upstanding folks would ever try such a thing! Oh, I forgot...it was a married cover too... They probably also missed that it was a reprint of the Canadian version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sqeggs said: They probably also missed that it was a reprint of the Canadian version. No...it wasn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: 8 minutes ago, Sqeggs said: They probably also missed that it was a reprint of the Canadian version. No...it wasn't... How can you be sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...