PROBATION DISCUSSIONS 21 21

[greggy]

Suck it, Tim

[N/A]

Lick it, Greggy.

[DR.X]

Suck it, Tim

 

You know, you lucked out this year mister as I could not make Chicago. But next year you better have eyes in your keister.

[greggy]

Suck it, Tim

 

You know, you lucked out this year mister as I could not make Chicago. But next year you better have eyes in your keister.

I'm the M in your S & M fantasy so bring it on

[slym2none]

 

Snip

 

 

They caught onto the shill and most likely banned him, deleted his posts and any posts responding to him.

 

Although my restraining order should have stayed.

 

In correct, for whatever reason I'm still here.

 

If any of the powers that be would like to talk, I'd be more than happy to via PM or email.

 

Why don't you just leave for good? Why keep trotting out the same tired excuses we know you won't hold yourself to? WHY KEEP COMING BACK HERE? NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE, YOU ARE A BLIGHT TO THIS COMMUNITY.

 

Don't leave. I want Arch to ban your azz again.

 

 

 

 

-slym

[PovertyRow]

 

You didn't land on Plymouth Rock, Plymouth Rock landed on you?

 

Sweet ref!

 

If driving fast cars you like,

If low bars you like,

If old hymns you like,

If bare limbs you like,

If Mae West you like,

Or me undressed you like,

Why, nobody will oppose.

When ev"ry night the set that"s smart is

intruding at nudist parties in studios.

Anything goes.

[PovertyRow]

I am nominating Symbiotic (Joseph Andrew Kim aka Drew Kim) to the Hall of Shame. He has exhibited several signs of being a scammer and a complete fraud on multiple occasions. His modus operandi of choice appears to do something fraudulent or deceptive, be discovered and apologize and claim he needs a period of reflection to help himself. Rinse, repeat.

 

Symbiotic first backed out of a sale from one member of the Boards claiming he has fallen upon hard times and wouldn't be able to complete a transaction where he had bought a book. However, it was discovered that Symbiotic was, at the same time, buying a more expensive book from another seller on the Boards.

 

On another occasion, Symbiotic had listed a book for sale. Upon a potential buyer taking the book, Symbiotic informed the buyer that the price has now doubled and would not honor the sales thread listed price.

 

Symbiotic was later discovered as to have been shilling his auctions on 11/13/13. He admitted I obviously knew shilling was not a morally ok practice and used his standard defense of I messed up real bad here, I see that now and I understand. If you want to prob me, ban me, or never deal with me again I also understand. for the first time. This led to several threads such as I shill my own auctions but you can't hate cause I admit it and his eventual response thread: The Shiller Speaks where once again he tries to garner pity by admitting his faults and falsely stating that he hopes to change and loves this community. When this thread happened, he also changed his name to "Future" and then changed it back to Symbiotic when he realized yes the name change back to symbiotic is due to the fact that i'm not trying to hide anything at this point and vowed to take some time away from selling because these Boards meant more to him for the community aspect more than the monetary aspect. This time away from selling lasted less than two weeks where once again he tried to elicit sympathy and admitting all of his wrong doings and said he wasn't going to sell here every again I won't be doing any sales threads EVER again, and that's not hyperbole. Ban me on sight if I do so. This time his "I'll never sell here again" lasted closed to two months.

 

On April 18, 2014, he was nominated for the PL by Wolfpack06 who had purchased a Manifest Destiny #1 off of Symbiotic around the time the book got hot. Instead of sending the book to Wolfpack06, Symbiotic submitted it to CGC "by mistake". He PMed Wolfpack06 and informed him of this and asked Wolfpack if he still wanted the book. Wolfpack06 replied via PM that he did still want the book. This was read and ignored by Symbiotic who instead listed the book on eBay for a higher price and sold the book and refunded the original purchase price back to Wolfpack06. He pulled the customary: I'm stepping away from the board and selling for the foreseeable future.

 

Again, he tried to change his name to "whouffle". It was also discovered less than a week later that he was still shilling his eBay auctions. Once AGAIN, he stated he wasn't going to sell on the forums anymore. I'm not looking to sell on the forums anymore, as I don't think I deserve that right. its a right not a privilege to sell to this great community. For a second time, he stated that he was changing his name back to Symbiotic because he had nothing to hide. He was added to the Probation List. However. on July 8, 2014, he was right back to selling. There were several that advocated for him to be removed from the Probation List since he had refunded Wolfpack06. Later that day, Wolfpack06 confirmed the refund from Symbiotic and Symbiotic was removed from the Probation List. On July 10, 2014, Symbiotic at the urging of others due to his removal from the Probation List earlier in the week, started a new sales thread selling a Hero for Hire #1 8.5 White Pages. It was determined that this book was listed on eBay. At that time, Symbiotic admitted the book he had used in the scans was not the same book, but one he had found on eBay. His book was actually an OW/W copy. He had simply stolen images from an eBay seller and passed it off as if that was the copy for sale.

 

At this point, he has proved time and time again that he does not honor transactions, whether buying or selling, he is a twice discovered shiller and his pattern of eliciting sympathy behind cries of regret and admitting mistakes and taking time off appears to be a ploy to bury his history and reappear several months later with hopes of having many forgetting his repeated transgressions on the Boards.

 

UPDATE NO. 1: Even after apologizing, Symbiotic continues to shill his auctions AFTER this poll was started.

 

UPDATE NO. 2: Caveat Emptor

 

UPDATE NO. 3 : Caveat Emptor

 

UPDATE NO. 4 : More Shilling

 

UPDATE NO. 5 : Strikes: Attempted to make two shill accounts here. - House Stark and Yaygurr

 

UPDATE NO. 6 : More shills: Storm Born f/k/a Sir See Lannister, JD Glitch

 

UPDATE NO. 7 : Even more shills: RubberFlipz, Glitch215

 

UPDATE NO. 8 : Another shill: Staroline

 

UPDATE NO. 9 : Another shill: Smoak//Frost

 

Great research there Harvey! Wanna poll this?

[Ryan.]

Wanna poll this?

 

Woah.

[PovertyRow]

Wanna poll this?

 

Woah.

 

For HOS a poll is how we roll.

[crassus]

Wanna poll this?

 

Woah.

 

For HOS a poll is how we roll.

 

or as Arsenio Hall used to say, "hit me with the digits"

 

 

and for the HOS those digits hit hard!

[HarveySwick]

Wanna poll this?

 

Woah.

 

For HOS a poll is how we roll.

 

There was one done a LONG time ago and the poll results are already linked.

 

258 - Yes

20 - No

 

I just bumped it to update his running list of shills.

[jsilverjanet]

Wanna poll this?

 

Woah.

 

For HOES, a poll is how we roll.

 

Fixed

[jsilverjanet]

HOS

 

Harvey's

Official

Swick

[Junkdrawer]

Good Lord Swick keeps some serious tabs. I wonder if he knows what I did last summer.

[divad]

Good Lord Swick keeps some serious tabs. I wonder if he knows what I did last summer.

 

He knows what you did this morning . . .

[retrothecollector]

Good Lord Swick keeps some serious tabs. I wonder if he knows what I did last summer.

 

He knows what you did this morning . . .

[HarveySwick]

Good Lord Swick keeps some serious tabs. I wonder if he knows what I did last summer.

 

He knows what you did this morning . . .

[Junkdrawer]

Good Lord Swick keeps some serious tabs. I wonder if he knows what I did last summer.

 

He knows what you did this morning . . .

Dang it

[Scturo]

He knows if you've been bad or good,

[PovertyRow]

Wanna poll this?

 

Woah.

 

For HOS a poll is how we roll.

 

There was one done a LONG time ago and the poll results are already linked.

 

258 - Yes

20 - No

 

I just bumped it to update his running list of shills.

 

Actually you didn't bump it, you reposted as a new post starting off " I am nominating Symbiotic (Joseph Andrew Kim aka Drew Kim) to the Hall of Shame." Since I have tremendous faith in you and your assiduousness, I took it at face value and, while confused, thought he may have been missed on the HOS list. I should have looked but if I saw his name already on HOS I would have been more confus-ed and possibly suffered a nervous breakdown.