Thank You All...

[shortstack comics]

Bye, Bye...

 

person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed

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Boozad,

 

I was just reading the mound city thread, and felt you were in the right. I also thought it was a stand up thing, in regards to speaking up for, "etanick".

 

I actually was going to reply in that thread, but couldn't, as I tried, I discovered it was locked.

 

I feel that the poster ID, Mound City, saying it's up to the owner was a bit B.S. And for them not to respond or refund Nick doesn't seem right. In regards to banning him, that seems sophomoric to me, very defensive, as the poster ID Mound City tried to ban you as well, hence when they requested you to PM them you contact info.

 

I do think it's nice they offered refunds, but it looks like it was the many, "complaints" that prodded such actions. I mean they were incompetent to rely on some gun for hire-shipper, to charge crazy prices and pass it on to the buyer. BAsically giving the third party free reign to charge whatever the hell they want with ones billing info. It does seem they learned from it though....although it's up to the buyer to let them know?

 

Yes, if it wasn't for folk like you, the corrections might not have been made.

I think you should stay.

 

I endorse this post. (thumbs u

 

Although perhaps a little too emotional about it, Gav wasn't wrong to take a stand.

 

The fact is that Mound City only attempted to put right what was clearly wrong (and there was a lot that was wrong from day 1) in the face of public outcry. That they are only now putting things right is not deserving of the outpouring of gratitude that has been seen. They created this balls-up and should be expected to do what they have now...finally...gotten around to doing. A brief 'thanks' would maybe be more appropriate for the circumstances?

 

As for their treatment of etanick, they have no excuse and their current smart-arse attitude...adopted, I'm sure, because they're 'giving' you all something...is not how I would approach customer service.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again...if Satan had a sweet run of books, there'd be Paypal payments flying into hell right now.

 

 

I don't know if it's just a UK thing but I agree with FT 100%. (thumbs u

 

Not just a UK thing. This American agrees.

[ciorac]

Boozad,

 

I was just reading the mound city thread, and felt you were in the right. I also thought it was a stand up thing, in regards to speaking up for, "etanick".

 

I actually was going to reply in that thread, but couldn't, as I tried, I discovered it was locked.

 

I feel that the poster ID, Mound City, saying it's up to the owner was a bit B.S. And for them not to respond or refund Nick doesn't seem right. In regards to banning him, that seems sophomoric to me, very defensive, as the poster ID Mound City tried to ban you as well, hence when they requested you to PM them you contact info.

 

I do think it's nice they offered refunds, but it looks like it was the many, "complaints" that prodded such actions. I mean they were incompetent to rely on some gun for hire-shipper, to charge crazy prices and pass it on to the buyer. BAsically giving the third party free reign to charge whatever the hell they want with ones billing info. It does seem they learned from it though....although it's up to the buyer to let them know?

 

Yes, if it wasn't for folk like you, the corrections might not have been made.

I think you should stay.

 

I endorse this post. (thumbs u

 

Although perhaps a little too emotional about it, Gav wasn't wrong to take a stand.

 

The fact is that Mound City only attempted to put right what was clearly wrong (and there was a lot that was wrong from day 1) in the face of public outcry. That they are only now putting things right is not deserving of the outpouring of gratitude that has been seen. They created this balls-up and should be expected to do what they have now...finally...gotten around to doing. A brief 'thanks' would maybe be more appropriate for the circumstances?

 

As for their treatment of etanick, they have no excuse and their current smart-arse attitude...adopted, I'm sure, because they're 'giving' you all something...is not how I would approach customer service.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again...if Satan had a sweet run of books, there'd be Paypal payments flying into hell right now.

 

again,

 

 

 

while it's nice that Boozad felt as though he needed to keep reminding MC how he felt about them and their practise in this whole event, considering he didn't have any stake in the matter kind of made it a bit off-putting to me, which is why i asked him to back off.

 

at some point, there is a difference between a company that doesn't move as fast as we'd like correcting a problem and a company / person who sets out to defraud. did MC screw up the post-auction process? absolutely. did they take longer than some would like to fix it? perhaps. did they do the right thing at the end of the day? i think so, at least in my case they did.

 

i see MC as a small, family-owned company that got in way over their head on a significant comic auction. they had an unfortunate response to an e-mail in the face of a personal tragedy. okay.

 

all this "i can't stay around and participate in a community that allows this sort of behaviour to go on unpunished and so i will take your leave with a FDQ exit on par with anything joe_c has ever tried before" is so melodramatic to me. maybe i'm combining my distaste for public pronouncement of intention to leave here with the MC thread, but hey, none of us is perfect, despite what we'd like the rest of the board to believe

 

I don't know Boozad or much about him, but if Sal is right in this summary, and I assume he is, then getting all worked up over this is mind boggling. I've followed the MC threads loosely (yes, some of us can actually use this word properly), and it has been a progression much as you describe above.

 

Boozad apparently hasn't been around very long. Getting insulting, profanity laced, emails, letters, etc from dealers is just part of the comic collecting experience.

 

You gotta have a bit thicker skin.

 

In the end, comic collecting is an incredibly fun hobby to participate in. Often times because of the personalities you come into contact with, other times in spite of. All part of the fun.

 

Bill, you complete me.

 

 

[Filter81]

My understanding of the facts (which could be wrong in which case I'll apologize up front, since I haven't followed the thread all that closely in recent weeks myself) are that:

 

1) Mound City required anyone who wanted to bid on their auction to provide a credit card # on file with the promise that the card would never be charged without authorization.

2) This credit card information was passed along to a third party without permission, who then charged obscene amounts for shipping without the authorization of the cardholders

3) Although Mound City's initial response was to tell everyone they had to take up their complaints with the shipping company, they later offered everyone a full refund.

4) After about a month had gone by with no refunds for most people, a few board members started asking about the refunds in the thread. At least one board member in particular received a very nasty (and in my opinion uncalled for) E-mail from Mound City.

5) That board member still has not received an apology OR a refund.

 

The first few points, if thats where it stopped, I think would be forgivable. But the E-mail Rob Classic sent to Etanick was completely inexcusable. The fact that Nick has been banned from future auctions (AND not refunded) even moreso.

 

It seemed to me that Boozad was just sticking up for a fellow board member that honestly has really been done wrong by Mound City up to this point..

 

[ciorac]

Getting insulting, profanity laced, emails, letters, etc from dealers is just part of the comic collecting experience.

 

Personally, I find them highly entertaining.

 

The Wheels ARE in motion. Classic.

 

And the ultimate irony of that incident is that it all started over comics called "More Fun Comics"

 

Can you believe it??

 

[MR.COMICBOOK]

Boozad,

 

I was just reading the mound city thread, and felt you were in the right. I also thought it was a stand up thing, in regards to speaking up for, "etanick".

 

I actually was going to reply in that thread, but couldn't, as I tried, I discovered it was locked.

 

I feel that the poster ID, Mound City, saying it's up to the owner was a bit B.S. And for them not to respond or refund Nick doesn't seem right. In regards to banning him, that seems sophomoric to me, very defensive, as the poster ID Mound City tried to ban you as well, hence when they requested you to PM them you contact info.

 

I do think it's nice they offered refunds, but it looks like it was the many, "complaints" that prodded such actions. I mean they were incompetent to rely on some gun for hire-shipper, to charge crazy prices and pass it on to the buyer. BAsically giving the third party free reign to charge whatever the hell they want with ones billing info. It does seem they learned from it though....although it's up to the buyer to let them know?

 

Yes, if it wasn't for folk like you, the corrections might not have been made.

I think you should stay.

 

I endorse this post. (thumbs u

 

Although perhaps a little too emotional about it, Gav wasn't wrong to take a stand.

 

The fact is that Mound City only attempted to put right what was clearly wrong (and there was a lot that was wrong from day 1) in the face of public outcry. That they are only now putting things right is not deserving of the outpouring of gratitude that has been seen. They created this balls-up and should be expected to do what they have now...finally...gotten around to doing. A brief 'thanks' would maybe be more appropriate for the circumstances?

 

As for their treatment of etanick, they have no excuse and their current smart-arse attitude...adopted, I'm sure, because they're 'giving' you all something...is not how I would approach customer service.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again...if Satan had a sweet run of books, there'd be Paypal payments flying into hell right now.

 

again,

 

 

 

while it's nice that Boozad felt as though he needed to keep reminding MC how he felt about them and their practise in this whole event, considering he didn't have any stake in the matter kind of made it a bit off-putting to me, which is why i asked him to back off.

 

at some point, there is a difference between a company that doesn't move as fast as we'd like correcting a problem and a company / person who sets out to defraud. did MC screw up the post-auction process? absolutely. did they take longer than some would like to fix it? perhaps. did they do the right thing at the end of the day? i think so, at least in my case they did.

 

i see MC as a small, family-owned company that got in way over their head on a significant comic auction. they had an unfortunate response to an e-mail in the face of a personal tragedy. okay.

 

all this "i can't stay around and participate in a community that allows this sort of behaviour to go on unpunished and so i will take your leave with a FDQ exit on par with anything joe_c has ever tried before" is so melodramatic to me. maybe i'm combining my distaste for public pronouncement of intention to leave here with the MC thread, but hey, none of us is perfect, despite what we'd like the rest of the board to believe

 

I don't know Boozad or much about him, but if Sal is right in this summary, and I assume he is, then getting all worked up over this is mind boggling. I've followed the MC threads loosely (yes, some of us can actually use this word properly), and it has been a progression much as you describe above.

 

Boozad apparently hasn't been around very long. Getting insulting, profanity laced, emails, letters, etc from dealers is just part of the comic collecting experience.

 

You gotta have a bit thicker skin.

In the end, comic collecting is an incredibly fun hobby to participate in. Often times because of the personalities you come into contact with, other times in spite of. All part of the fun.

When money is involved you will meet all types. Just like any other business.

[t3quila]

My understanding of the facts (which could be wrong in which case I'll apologize up front, since I haven't followed the thread all that closely in recent weeks myself) are that:

 

1) Mound City required anyone who wanted to bid on their auction to provide a credit card # on file with the promise that the card would never be charged without authorization.

2) This credit card information was passed along to a third party without permission, who then charged obscene amounts for shipping without the authorization of the cardholders

3) Although Mound City's initial response was to tell everyone they had to take up their complaints with the shipping company, they later offered everyone a full refund.

4) After about a month had gone by with no refunds for most people, a few board members started asking about the refunds in the thread. At least one board member in particular received a very nasty (and in my opinion uncalled for) E-mail from Mound City.

5) That board member still has not received an apology OR a refund.

 

The first few points, if thats where it stopped, I think would be forgivable. But the E-mail Rob Classic sent to Etanick was completely inexcusable. The fact that Nick has been banned from future auctions (AND not refunded) even moreso.

 

It seemed to me that Boozad was just sticking up for a fellow board member that honestly has really been done wrong by Mound City up to this point..

 

I don't believe you have posted anything incorrect, but I expect this thread to be locked as well, as similar to all previous threads critical of MC

[goldust40]

 

Boozad apparently hasn't been around very long. Getting insulting, profanity laced, emails, letters, etc from dealers is just part of the comic collecting experience.You gotta have a bit thicker skin.

 

I disagree here. I have been collecting for over 30 years and been dealing for almost 20, and I have never received an email or any kind of correspondence even remotely as bad as the one sent by Mound City to etanick. If I did, I would be extremely unhappy about it.

 

There is simply no excuse for that sort of unprofessional behaviour. What if Clink, Heritage, Comic Connect, etc. sent such an email to one of our senior, big-spending members? We'd never hear the end of it. Of course, said auction companies would never do such things, regardless of personal circumstances , because they would lose business and credibility.

 

 

[shortstack comics]

 

Boozad apparently hasn't been around very long. Getting insulting, profanity laced, emails, letters, etc from dealers is just part of the comic collecting experience.You gotta have a bit thicker skin.

 

I disagree here. I have been collecting for over 30 years and been dealing for almost 20, and I have never received an email or any kind of correspondence even remotely as bad as the one sent by Mound City to etanick. If I did, I would be extremely unhappy about it.

 

There is simply no excuse for that sort of unprofessional behaviour. What if Clink, Heritage, Comic Connect, etc. sent such an email to one of our senior, big-spending members? We'd never hear the end of it. Of course, said auction companies woulod never do such things, regardless of personal circumstances , because they would lose business and credibility.

 

 

I think the main fact that lit the fire under Boozad is that the practice on the boards seems to be with many members, if someone has done a shady sales deal, it's ok as long as they have more difficult to find HG books, whereas if they don't have more books, it's ok to jump all over them. Big double standard.

[goldust40]

It seemed to me that Boozad was just sticking up for a fellow board member that honestly has really been done wrong by Mound City up to this point.

 

Gav could've handled things considerably better as what he posted did undermine his point, but he was essentially on the money.

[faster friends]

It seemed to me that Boozad was just sticking up for a fellow board member that honestly has really been done wrong by Mound City up to this point.

 

Gav could've handled things considerably better as what he posted did undermine his point, but he was essentially on the money.

 

+1

 

He made his point a while back. But for some reason he could not just let it go.

[catrick339]

Hey Peeps, just a heads up for anyone following this thread.

 

Beware the page quality of any book Satan has had in stock more than a week.

His COOLEST storage area is about the temp of an attic in Georgia in August, his pages brown up fast enough to make your head spin.

 

Caveat Emptor!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL

[comix4fun]

Hey Peeps, just a heads up for anyone following this thread.

 

Beware the page quality of any book Satan has had in stock more than a week.

His COOLEST storage area is about the temp of an attic in Georgia in August, his pages brown up fast enough to make your head spin.

 

Caveat Emptor!

 

 

I can vouch for that...I have seen it somewhere before.

 

[ChasingKingKirby]

I've said it before and I'll say it again...if Satan had a sweet run of books, there'd be Paypal payments flying into hell right now.

 

True words.

Sad to say but very true, and boardies would be tripping over each other to be first.

 

I'm still trying to find out what books he has.

Oh he has sweet GA.Action 1 tec 27.All the big keys in HG.Makes MH books look bad.Then you find out they all went throught the hands of Dan Patterson and his wrecking crew at pgx.

 

Dan Patterson IS the wrecking crew...

[rob_react]

But for some reason he could not just let it go.

 

That happens to people here.

[TFL-migration]

Bye, Bye...

 

person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed

 

Who are who too judge me in any way or fashion?? I'm sooooooo hurt by your post... NOT!!!

[Shootydog]

Bye, Bye...

 

person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed

 

Who are who too judge me in any way or fashion?? I'm sooooooo hurt by your post... NOT!!!

 

don't start..please

[buttock]

...but hey, none of us is perfect...

It's "none of us are perfect." Us is plural, not singular. No wonder Boozad left in disgust. It makes me sick.

 

thanks. basic grammar screwups are so embarrassing. luckily, we've got you here. you're the board equivalent of superman or something

 

Superman? or Luthor?

 

search the web: "None of us is perfect. The verb takes the singular. Because "none" means "not one". You wouldn't say: "Not one of us are perfect."

 

[gaz2810i]

Bye, Bye...

 

person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed

 

Who are who too judge me in any way or fashion?? I'm sooooooo hurt by your post... NOT!!!

 

I must admit these are the only type of posts I see from you, why? I am a newbie here, and I am sure you must have more to contribute across the boards, but why do you continue to post such petty, nonsensical and aggravating stuff. Not judging you in the slightest but why continue with all this I just don't get it?

[Paratrooper]

Bye, Bye...

Let me guess. When you come close to getting into a fight at a bar and the other fellow finally leaves, you strongly yell out afterwards, "Lucky he left or I would have shown him what-for!"

 

Why don't you go read something other than comics. Something more appropriate.

 

 

Actually, the opposite is very true. I'll go at it{whatever IT is} anytime. No on likes to fight.. But I will never, ever back down from a fight either. Be it in printed or physical forms. I'm 6ft.3 and go around 270 - 280 lbs. If I loose so be it. If I win that's all good too...

 

It's no surprise that I am not saddened by Boozad leaving this message board. We've gone at it a few times on here. But it's his decision, no one else can make it for him...

 

loser