roulette44 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) The 8.0 sc22 that I had that later became a 9.0 came from a source that has a few other nice copies (at least 3 iirc). He doesn't , however have a better than fn sc4 I would say less hg sc4 in the wild than sc22 but that's just from my experience. Your mileage may very. But isn't the highest graded #22 a 9.0 [haven't seen the census in a few years] while there are a half dozen or so #4 in 9.0 or higher? Highest is a 9.2 (was my old 8.5 that thomas wilson bought, double up'd and then sold right away on Clink) - maybe 3 years ago. There is a 9.6 sc4 and a 9.4 sc4, but they're both really tough above 8.5, period. SC4 is tougher in aggregate (less copies). sc4 is also easier to get a high page quality on. sc22 next and bb 28 is most difficult of the 3. my dataset is a few dozen to several dozen copies of each. JD I disagree. Currently on the CGC there are: SC 4 Sc22 BB 28 9.6 1 9.6 0 9.6 0 9.4. 2 9.4 0 9.4 2 9.2. 2 9.2 1 9.2 3 9.0 2 9.0 3 9.0 7 8.5 3 8.5 4 8.5 7 8.0 7 8.0 7 8.0 23 7.5 7 7.5 10 7.5 15 The data shows that SC22 is the rarest in 8.0+ grade, next would be SC4 and then BB28. The softer price for BB28 in 8.0 is due to so many copies in 8.0. I agree that SC4 is printed in better paper with three copies with WP's in 7.5+ compare to one SC22 in 7.5+ with WP and one BB28 in 7.5+ with WP. There has been as many as 8 copies Showcase 4 and 15 Brave and the Bold 8.0 added to the census the last five years and compare to only 2 Showcase 22 8.0+ added the last five years. I love all three books, but SC22 is a the rarest to find in high grade (yes, I have position on all three books). , your post looks fine to me. Except the part where you disagree with me. Read my post again and you'll see that you don't. my points were: - both tough above 8.5 (didn't categorize one as being tougher regardless of which it is) - SC4 being tougher overall in any grade (less copies) - BB28 being the toughest of all with White pages. Edited August 7, 2016 by roulette44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 The 8.0 sc22 that I had that later became a 9.0 came from a source that has a few other nice copies (at least 3 iirc). He doesn't , however have a better than fn sc4 I would say less hg sc4 in the wild than sc22 but that's just from my experience. Your mileage may very. But isn't the highest graded #22 a 9.0 [haven't seen the census in a few years] while there are a half dozen or so #4 in 9.0 or higher? Highest is a 9.2 (was my old 8.5 that thomas wilson bought, double up'd and then sold right away on Clink) - maybe 3 years ago. There is a 9.6 sc4 and a 9.4 sc4, but they're both really tough above 8.5, period. SC4 is tougher in aggregate (less copies). sc4 is also easier to get a high page quality on. sc22 next and bb 28 is most difficult of the 3. my dataset is a few dozen to several dozen copies of each. JD I disagree. Currently on the CGC there are: SC 4 Sc22 BB 28 9.6 1 9.6 0 9.6 0 9.4. 2 9.4 0 9.4 2 9.2. 2 9.2 1 9.2 3 9.0 2 9.0 3 9.0 7 8.5 3 8.5 4 8.5 7 8.0 7 8.0 7 8.0 23 7.5 7 7.5 10 7.5 15 The data shows that SC22 is the rarest in 8.0+ grade, next would be SC4 and then BB28. The softer price for BB28 in 8.0 is due to so many copies in 8.0. I agree that SC4 is printed in better paper with three copies with WP's in 7.5+ compare to one SC22 in 7.5+ with WP and one BB28 in 7.5+ with WP. There has been as many as 8 copies Showcase 4 and 15 Brave and the Bold 8.0 added to the census the last five years and compare to only 2 Showcase 22 8.0+ added the last five years. I love all three books, but SC22 is the rarest to find in high grade (yes, I have position on all three books). No question. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 The 8.0 sc22 that I had that later became a 9.0 came from a source that has a few other nice copies (at least 3 iirc). He doesn't , however have a better than fn sc4 I would say less hg sc4 in the wild than sc22 but that's just from my experience. Your mileage may very. But isn't the highest graded #22 a 9.0 [haven't seen the census in a few years] while there are a half dozen or so #4 in 9.0 or higher? Highest is a 9.2 (was my old 8.5 that thomas wilson bought, double up'd and then sold right away on Clink) - maybe 3 years ago. There is a 9.6 sc4 and a 9.4 sc4, but they're both really tough above 8.5, period. SC4 is tougher in aggregate (less copies). sc4 is also easier to get a high page quality on. sc22 next and bb 28 is most difficult of the 3. my dataset is a few dozen to several dozen copies of each. JD I disagree. Currently on the CGC there are: SC 4 Sc22 BB 28 9.6 1 9.6 0 9.6 0 9.4. 2 9.4 0 9.4 2 9.2. 2 9.2 1 9.2 3 9.0 2 9.0 3 9.0 7 8.5 3 8.5 4 8.5 7 8.0 7 8.0 7 8.0 23 7.5 7 7.5 10 7.5 15 The data shows that SC22 is the rarest in 8.0+ grade, next would be SC4 and then BB28. The softer price for BB28 in 8.0 is due to so many copies in 8.0. I agree that SC4 is printed in better paper with three copies with WP's in 7.5+ compare to one SC22 in 7.5+ with WP and one BB28 in 7.5+ with WP. There has been as many as 8 copies Showcase 4 and 15 Brave and the Bold 8.0 added to the census the last five years and compare to only 2 Showcase 22 8.0+ added the last five years. I love all three books, but SC22 is a the rarest to find in high grade (yes, I have position on all three books). , your post looks fine to me. Except the part where you disagree with me. Read my post again and you'll see that you don't. my points were: - both tough above 8.5 (didn't categorize one as being tougher regardless of which it is) - SC4 being tougher overall in any grade (less copies) - BB28 being the toughest of all with White pages. So your point were they both are rare in 8.5+. My point were: out of the top three DC SA, SC 22 is the the rarest to find in 8.0+. I see comparable amount of SC22 with WP's versus BB28 with WP'S. I do see more SC22 in OW/W than BB28, but both books tends to be CRM/OW. SC4 is more scarce; hence CGC census and lower surving copies. If one is searching for a SC22 or a BB28 in 7.5+ in WP....currently one available of each only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman399 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Predictions on the MCS 7.5 ending tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman619 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 hurts my eyes! SC 4 Sc22 BB 28 9.6 1 0 0 9.4 2 0 2 9.2 2 1 3 9.0 2 3 7 8.5 3 4 7 8.0 7 7 23 7.5 7 10 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman619 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 wait I put lots of word spaces in between! ------ SC4---Sc22--BB 28 9.6 -----1------ 0 ------0 9.4 -----2 ------0 ------2 9.2 -----2 ------1------ 3 9.0 -----2 ------3 ------7 8.5 -----3 ------4 ------7 8.0 -----7 ------7 -----23 7.5 -----7 -----10 ----15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I am Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Predictions on the MCS 7.5 ending tonight? With the way that late bids add more time,we may not know til Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman399 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Predictions on the MCS 7.5 ending tonight? With the way that late bids add more time,we may not know til Tuesday. That was awesome! 72,000!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 The 7.5 with slight resto sold for $17,600. Would be interesting to see if it will be in a blue label soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*matterus023* Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) The 7.5 with slight resto sold for $17,600. Would be interesting to see if it will be in a blue label soon. I was surprised it went for $17.6k. I was expecting much more Both great copies to own. I picked up the SC22 as 3rd prize Edited August 9, 2016 by *matterus023* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 The 7.5 with slight resto sold for $17,600. Would be interesting to see if it will be in a blue label soon. I was surprised it went for $17.6k. I was expecting much more Both great copies to own. I picked up the SC22 as 3rd prize Nice congrats! What's the grade in the SC22? Hopen you got it for a good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*matterus023* Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 The 7.5 with slight resto sold for $17,600. Would be interesting to see if it will be in a blue label soon. I was surprised it went for $17.6k. I was expecting much more Both great copies to own. I picked up the SC22 as 3rd prize Nice congrats! What's the grade in the SC22? Hopen you got it for a good price. Thanks. It was 7.5 OW moderate B-2 Top edge trimmed of cover. Got it for $1650 all in with postage to the UK. More than happy. Looking forward to having it to hand. Still wish I had the SC4 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 The 7.5 with slight resto sold for $17,600. Would be interesting to see if it will be in a blue label soon. I was surprised it went for $17.6k. I was expecting much more Both great copies to own. I picked up the SC22 as 3rd prize Nice congrats! What's the grade in the SC22? Hopen you got it for a good price. Thanks. It was 7.5 OW moderate B-2 Top edge trimmed of cover. Got it for $1650 all in with postage to the UK. More than happy. Looking forward to having it to hand. Still wish I had the SC4 though Cool book and congrats! Seems like you got it for a good price Wish I still had my copies of SC 4 as well before the spike up in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 wait I put lots of word spaces in between! ------ SC4---Sc22--BB 28 9.6 -----1------ 0 ------0 9.4 -----2 ------0 ------2 9.2 -----2 ------1------ 3 9.0 -----2 ------3 ------7 8.5 -----3 ------4 ------7 8.0 -----7 ------7 -----23 7.5 -----7 -----10 ----15 I can see it better. Thank you sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupergirlDC1959 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) This really nice looking SC4 CGC 5.0 blue label ends in 2 hours on Ebay. Link: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/131904319555?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Edited August 16, 2016 by SupergirlDC1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 Looks like a Sparkle City price bump is in the cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupergirlDC1959 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) The top bidder has 0 feedback that suck for them if some guy ruins there auction!! Edited August 17, 2016 by SupergirlDC1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s14roller Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Looks like a Sparkle City price bump is in the cards The top bidder has 0 feedback that suck for them if some guy ruins there auction!! I feel like these are related... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupergirlDC1959 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Looks like a Sparkle City price bump is in the cards The top bidder has 0 feedback that suck for them if some guy ruins there auction!! I feel like these are related... Ah yes you are right!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 Looks like a Sparkle City price bump is in the cards The top bidder has 0 feedback that suck for them if some guy ruins there auction!! I feel like these are related... That's a good point. I would think bidders have to contact them before bidding or risk their bids being cancelled. I would hope they have some measures to protect the integrity of the bidders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...