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roulette44

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The 8.0 sc22 that I had that later became a 9.0 came from a source that has a few other nice copies (at least 3 iirc). He doesn't , however have a better than fn sc4

 

I would say less hg sc4 in the wild than sc22 but that's just from my experience. Your mileage may very.

 

But isn't the highest graded #22 a 9.0 [haven't seen the census in a few years] while there are a half dozen or so #4 in 9.0 or higher?

 

Highest is a 9.2 (was my old 8.5 that thomas wilson bought, double up'd and then sold right away on Clink) - maybe 3 years ago.

 

There is a 9.6 sc4 and a 9.4 sc4, but they're both really tough above 8.5, period. SC4 is tougher in aggregate (less copies).

 

sc4 is also easier to get a high page quality on. sc22 next and bb 28 is most difficult of the 3. my dataset is a few dozen to several dozen copies of each.

 

JD

I disagree. Currently on the CGC there are:

SC 4 Sc22 BB 28

9.6 1 9.6 0 9.6 0

9.4. 2 9.4 0 9.4 2

9.2. 2 9.2 1 9.2 3

9.0 2 9.0 3 9.0 7

8.5 3 8.5 4 8.5 7

8.0 7 8.0 7 8.0 23

7.5 7 7.5 10 7.5 15

 

The data shows that SC22 is the rarest in 8.0+ grade, next would be SC4 and then BB28.

The softer price for BB28 in 8.0 is due to so many copies in 8.0. I agree that SC4 is printed in better paper with three copies with WP's in 7.5+ compare to one SC22 in 7.5+ with WP and one BB28 in 7.5+ with WP. There has been as many as 8 copies Showcase 4 and 15 Brave and the Bold 8.0 added to the census the last five years and compare to only 2 Showcase 22 8.0+ added the last five years. I love all three books, but SC22 is a the rarest to find in high grade (yes, I have position on all three books). :)

 

 

lol, your post looks fine to me. Except the part where you disagree with me. Read my post again and you'll see that you don't.

 

my points were:

 

- both tough above 8.5 (didn't categorize one as being tougher regardless of which it is)

- SC4 being tougher overall in any grade (less copies)

- BB28 being the toughest of all with White pages.

 

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The 8.0 sc22 that I had that later became a 9.0 came from a source that has a few other nice copies (at least 3 iirc). He doesn't , however have a better than fn sc4

 

I would say less hg sc4 in the wild than sc22 but that's just from my experience. Your mileage may very.

 

But isn't the highest graded #22 a 9.0 [haven't seen the census in a few years] while there are a half dozen or so #4 in 9.0 or higher?

 

Highest is a 9.2 (was my old 8.5 that thomas wilson bought, double up'd and then sold right away on Clink) - maybe 3 years ago.

 

There is a 9.6 sc4 and a 9.4 sc4, but they're both really tough above 8.5, period. SC4 is tougher in aggregate (less copies).

 

sc4 is also easier to get a high page quality on. sc22 next and bb 28 is most difficult of the 3. my dataset is a few dozen to several dozen copies of each.

 

JD

I disagree. Currently on the CGC there are:

SC 4 Sc22 BB 28

9.6 1 9.6 0 9.6 0

9.4. 2 9.4 0 9.4 2

9.2. 2 9.2 1 9.2 3

9.0 2 9.0 3 9.0 7

8.5 3 8.5 4 8.5 7

8.0 7 8.0 7 8.0 23

7.5 7 7.5 10 7.5 15

 

The data shows that SC22 is the rarest in 8.0+ grade, next would be SC4 and then BB28.

The softer price for BB28 in 8.0 is due to so many copies in 8.0. I agree that SC4 is printed in better paper with three copies with WP's in 7.5+ compare to one SC22 in 7.5+ with WP and one BB28 in 7.5+ with WP. There has been as many as 8 copies Showcase 4 and 15 Brave and the Bold 8.0 added to the census the last five years and compare to only 2 Showcase 22 8.0+ added the last five years. I love all three books, but SC22 is the rarest to find in high grade (yes, I have position on all three books). :)

 

No question.

Yes. :)

 

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The 8.0 sc22 that I had that later became a 9.0 came from a source that has a few other nice copies (at least 3 iirc). He doesn't , however have a better than fn sc4

 

I would say less hg sc4 in the wild than sc22 but that's just from my experience. Your mileage may very.

 

But isn't the highest graded #22 a 9.0 [haven't seen the census in a few years] while there are a half dozen or so #4 in 9.0 or higher?

 

Highest is a 9.2 (was my old 8.5 that thomas wilson bought, double up'd and then sold right away on Clink) - maybe 3 years ago.

 

There is a 9.6 sc4 and a 9.4 sc4, but they're both really tough above 8.5, period. SC4 is tougher in aggregate (less copies).

 

sc4 is also easier to get a high page quality on. sc22 next and bb 28 is most difficult of the 3. my dataset is a few dozen to several dozen copies of each.

 

JD

I disagree. Currently on the CGC there are:

SC 4 Sc22 BB 28

9.6 1 9.6 0 9.6 0

9.4. 2 9.4 0 9.4 2

9.2. 2 9.2 1 9.2 3

9.0 2 9.0 3 9.0 7

8.5 3 8.5 4 8.5 7

8.0 7 8.0 7 8.0 23

7.5 7 7.5 10 7.5 15

 

The data shows that SC22 is the rarest in 8.0+ grade, next would be SC4 and then BB28.

The softer price for BB28 in 8.0 is due to so many copies in 8.0. I agree that SC4 is printed in better paper with three copies with WP's in 7.5+ compare to one SC22 in 7.5+ with WP and one BB28 in 7.5+ with WP. There has been as many as 8 copies Showcase 4 and 15 Brave and the Bold 8.0 added to the census the last five years and compare to only 2 Showcase 22 8.0+ added the last five years. I love all three books, but SC22 is a the rarest to find in high grade (yes, I have position on all three books). :)

 

 

lol, your post looks fine to me. Except the part where you disagree with me. Read my post again and you'll see that you don't.

 

my points were:

 

- both tough above 8.5 (didn't categorize one as being tougher regardless of which it is)

- SC4 being tougher overall in any grade (less copies)

- BB28 being the toughest of all with White pages.

So your point were they both are rare in 8.5+. My point were: out of the top three DC SA, SC 22 is the the rarest to find in 8.0+. I see comparable amount of SC22 with WP's versus BB28 with WP'S. I do see more SC22 in OW/W than BB28, but both books tends to be CRM/OW. SC4 is more scarce; hence CGC census and lower surving copies. If one is searching for a SC22 or a BB28 in 7.5+ in WP....currently one available of each only.

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wait I put lots of word spaces in between!

 

------ SC4---Sc22--BB 28

9.6 -----1------ 0 ------0

9.4 -----2 ------0 ------2

9.2 -----2 ------1------ 3

9.0 -----2 ------3 ------7

 

8.5 -----3 ------4 ------7

8.0 -----7 ------7 -----23

7.5 -----7 -----10 ----15

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*matterus023*

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The 7.5 with slight resto sold for $17,600. Would be interesting to see if it will be in a blue label soon.

 

I was surprised it went for $17.6k. I was expecting much more

 

Both great copies to own. I picked up the SC22 as 3rd prize lol

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The 7.5 with slight resto sold for $17,600. Would be interesting to see if it will be in a blue label soon.

 

I was surprised it went for $17.6k. I was expecting much more

 

Both great copies to own. I picked up the SC22 as 3rd prize lol

 

Nice congrats! What's the grade in the SC22? Hopen you got it for a good price.

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The 7.5 with slight resto sold for $17,600. Would be interesting to see if it will be in a blue label soon.

 

I was surprised it went for $17.6k. I was expecting much more

 

Both great copies to own. I picked up the SC22 as 3rd prize lol

 

Nice congrats! What's the grade in the SC22? Hopen you got it for a good price.

 

Thanks. It was 7.5 OW moderate B-2 Top edge trimmed of cover. Got it for $1650 all in with postage to the UK.

 

More than happy. Looking forward to having it to hand. Still wish I had the SC4 though lol

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Dark Knight

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The 7.5 with slight resto sold for $17,600. Would be interesting to see if it will be in a blue label soon.

 

I was surprised it went for $17.6k. I was expecting much more

 

Both great copies to own. I picked up the SC22 as 3rd prize lol

 

Nice congrats! What's the grade in the SC22? Hopen you got it for a good price.

 

Thanks. It was 7.5 OW moderate B-2 Top edge trimmed of cover. Got it for $1650 all in with postage to the UK.

 

More than happy. Looking forward to having it to hand. Still wish I had the SC4 though lol

 

Cool book and congrats! Seems like you got it for a good price (thumbs u Wish I still had my copies of SC 4 as well before the spike up in price.

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showcase22gr1959

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wait I put lots of word spaces in between!

 

------ SC4---Sc22--BB 28

9.6 -----1------ 0 ------0

9.4 -----2 ------0 ------2

9.2 -----2 ------1------ 3

9.0 -----2 ------3 ------7

 

8.5 -----3 ------4 ------7

8.0 -----7 ------7 -----23

7.5 -----7 -----10 ----15

 

I can see it better. Thank you sir. ;)

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Boba

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Looks like a Sparkle City price bump is in the cards :o

 

The top bidder has 0 feedback that suck for them if some guy ruins there auction!!

 

I feel like these are related...

 

That's a good point. I would think bidders have to contact them before bidding or risk their bids being cancelled. I would hope they have some measures to protect the integrity of the bidders.

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