Major transaction let-down. Need advice! 3 3

[t3quila]

No offense, but Matt won't send you another dollar no matter what kind of book you have. Never in a million years.

 

 

No one is asking Matt to send money, but Yannis should be allowed to try to make amends, after all none is without fault. Also Yannis isn't the first to ignore PM's.

[Domo Arigato]

I just want to say thanks to everybody for helping i greatly appreciate it

 

I just want to say "tell us WTF you agreed upon TO THE LETTER"

You took it to the people and now the people want to hear the conclusion. You can't just use us for your own satisfaction and leave us hanging.

That's not how a community works.

 

As far as I'm concerned you are both on my probation list until time stands still if you don't cough up the details. Don't bother buying from me, nor will I buy from you.

 

I'm happy that you came to an S & M type happy conclusion but someone give me my time back for 70 pages of selling research wasted by members agreeing in private that they aren't despicable to try to escape being put on the probation list in the end.

 

You my friend need to chill out maybe go back and read it again cause you apparently missed alot, i said time and time again i got screwed and theres nothin i can do, i dont have the book and never will what more do you want??

As far as putting me on the probation list seriously grow up and dont worry i wont buy from you and you can do the same from me. I didnt make the resolution private at all

 

You made the resolution private by not making it public, and from the way you have worded it you had no say in the resolution either and that is sad.

BTW, don't worry because you're on my private probation list, not the forum one. (and I don't own any 'Tec 37"'s either.)

 

It's too bad you can't get this angry at the seller because you do need to grow some if you want buy here or you are going to find more of your purchases walking away from you (but not from me)

 

Night Matt boy

What I learned from this thread:

 

Subliminal is a *spoon*. (thumbs u

 

What I learned from this post:

 

You are a master baiter but I don't eat worms or minnows

What I learned from this post:

 

Word play is neato. And since we're on the subject of eating...why don't you take some utensils and go *fork* yourself, *spoon*.

[8milemax]

No offense, but Matt won't send you another dollar no matter what kind of book you have. Never in a million years.

 

 

No one is asking Matt to send money, but Yannis should be allowed to try to make amends, after all none is without fault. Also Yannis isn't the first to ignore PM's.

Seems to me that you are sticking up for Yannis, why is that? What amends can Yannis do?

[Subliminal]

I just want to say thanks to everybody for helping i greatly appreciate it

 

I just want to say "tell us WTF you agreed upon TO THE LETTER"

You took it to the people and now the people want to hear the conclusion. You can't just use us for your own satisfaction and leave us hanging.

That's not how a community works.

 

As far as I'm concerned you are both on my probation list until time stands still if you don't cough up the details. Don't bother buying from me, nor will I buy from you.

 

I'm happy that you came to an S & M type happy conclusion but someone give me my time back for 70 pages of selling research wasted by members agreeing in private that they aren't despicable to try to escape being put on the probation list in the end.

 

You my friend need to chill out maybe go back and read it again cause you apparently missed alot, i said time and time again i got screwed and theres nothin i can do, i dont have the book and never will what more do you want??

As far as putting me on the probation list seriously grow up and dont worry i wont buy from you and you can do the same from me. I didnt make the resolution private at all

 

You made the resolution private by not making it public, and from the way you have worded it you had no say in the resolution either and that is sad.

BTW, don't worry because you're on my private probation list, not the forum one. (and I don't own any 'Tec 37"'s either.)

 

It's too bad you can't get this angry at the seller because you do need to grow some if you want buy here or you are going to find more of your purchases walking away from you (but not from me)

 

Night Matt boy

What I learned from this thread:

 

Subliminal is a *spoon*. (thumbs u

 

I've dealt with Subliminal before and he has always come across as a good guy. I think he is very honest and gets very upset when he sees dishonest or selfish behaviour. I disagree with him in this case but think he is one of the good guys.

 

I'm perfectly happy with disagreeing with people because no one has the same opinion or approach to each issue but all of our input makes for a community decision

 

Its threads like this that brings lurker forumites to finally speak up and post their opinion after years of not speaking up on mediocre threads and I applaud that.

 

Matt and Yannis are BOTH responsible for fixing this and from the moment this drama thread was posted we are responsible for making sure it is within the satisfaction of the community.

Its not about how ugly the discussion is it is about results. Before I posted in it we knew next to nothing and the miffed buyer was unsatisfied and willing to accept caveat emtor as an excuse. I don't accept that and I'm disappointed Matt is willing to accept that since he was not happy and obviously making that known to the seller

 

He has a responsibility to this community if he participates in the sales forum and I don't give a what his friend or his friends GF wants to call me when she is tired and cranky, other than its just another opinion.

 

 

[mt1000]

I just want to say thanks to everybody for helping i greatly appreciate it

 

I just want to say "tell us WTF you agreed upon TO THE LETTER"

You took it to the people and now the people want to hear the conclusion. You can't just use us for your own satisfaction and leave us hanging.

That's not how a community works.

 

As far as I'm concerned you are both on my probation list until time stands still if you don't cough up the details. Don't bother buying from me, nor will I buy from you.

 

I'm happy that you came to an S & M type happy conclusion but someone give me my time back for 70 pages of selling research wasted by members agreeing in private that they aren't despicable to try to escape being put on the probation list in the end.

 

You my friend need to chill out maybe go back and read it again cause you apparently missed alot, i said time and time again i got screwed and theres nothin i can do, i dont have the book and never will what more do you want??

As far as putting me on the probation list seriously grow up and dont worry i wont buy from you and you can do the same from me. I didnt make the resolution private at all

 

You made the resolution private by not making it public, and from the way you have worded it you had no say in the resolution either and that is sad.

BTW, don't worry because you're on my private probation list, not the forum one. (and I don't own any 'Tec 37"'s either.)

 

It's too bad you can't get this angry at the seller because you do need to grow some if you want buy here or you are going to find more of your purchases walking away from you (but not from me)

 

Night Matt boy

What I learned from this thread:

 

Subliminal is a *spoon*. (thumbs u

 

I've dealt with Subliminal before and he has always come across as a good guy. I think he is very honest and gets very upset when he sees dishonest or selfish behaviour. I disagree with him in this case but think he is one of the good guys.

 

I'm perfectly happy with disagreeing with people because no one has the same opinion or approach to each issue but all of our input makes for a community decision

 

Its threads like this that brings lurker forumites to finally speak up and post their opinion after years of not speaking up on mediocre threads and I applaud that.

 

Matt and Yannis are BOTH responsible for fixing this and from the moment this drama thread was posted we are responsible for making sure it is within the satisfaction of the community.

Its not about how ugly the discussion is it is about results. Before I posted in it we knew next to nothing and the miffed buyer was unsatisfied and willing to accept caveat emtor as an excuse. I don't accept that and I'm disappointed Matt is willing to accept that since he was not happy and obviously making that known to the seller

 

He has a responsibility to this community if he participates in the sales forum and I don't give a what his friend or his friends GF wants to call me when she is tired and cranky, other than its just another opinion.

 

 

Why are u so miserable you seem real popular around here

[Subliminal]

I just want to say thanks to everybody for helping i greatly appreciate it

 

I just want to say "tell us WTF you agreed upon TO THE LETTER"

You took it to the people and now the people want to hear the conclusion. You can't just use us for your own satisfaction and leave us hanging.

That's not how a community works.

 

As far as I'm concerned you are both on my probation list until time stands still if you don't cough up the details. Don't bother buying from me, nor will I buy from you.

 

I'm happy that you came to an S & M type happy conclusion but someone give me my time back for 70 pages of selling research wasted by members agreeing in private that they aren't despicable to try to escape being put on the probation list in the end.

 

You my friend need to chill out maybe go back and read it again cause you apparently missed alot, i said time and time again i got screwed and theres nothin i can do, i dont have the book and never will what more do you want??

As far as putting me on the probation list seriously grow up and dont worry i wont buy from you and you can do the same from me. I didnt make the resolution private at all

 

You made the resolution private by not making it public, and from the way you have worded it you had no say in the resolution either and that is sad.

BTW, don't worry because you're on my private probation list, not the forum one. (and I don't own any 'Tec 37"'s either.)

 

It's too bad you can't get this angry at the seller because you do need to grow some if you want buy here or you are going to find more of your purchases walking away from you (but not from me)

 

Night Matt boy

What I learned from this thread:

 

Subliminal is a *spoon*. (thumbs u

 

What I learned from this post:

 

You are a master baiter but I don't eat worms or minnows

What I learned from this post:

 

Word play is neato. And since we're on the subject of eating...why don't you take some utensils and go *fork* yourself, *spoon*.

 

What I learned from your rebuttals:

 

 

 

[mt1000]

I just want to say thanks to everybody for helping i greatly appreciate it

 

I just want to say "tell us WTF you agreed upon TO THE LETTER"

You took it to the people and now the people want to hear the conclusion. You can't just use us for your own satisfaction and leave us hanging.

That's not how a community works.

 

As far as I'm concerned you are both on my probation list until time stands still if you don't cough up the details. Don't bother buying from me, nor will I buy from you.

 

I'm happy that you came to an S & M type happy conclusion but someone give me my time back for 70 pages of selling research wasted by members agreeing in private that they aren't despicable to try to escape being put on the probation list in the end.

 

You my friend need to chill out maybe go back and read it again cause you apparently missed alot, i said time and time again i got screwed and theres nothin i can do, i dont have the book and never will what more do you want??

As far as putting me on the probation list seriously grow up and dont worry i wont buy from you and you can do the same from me. I didnt make the resolution private at all

 

You made the resolution private by not making it public, and from the way you have worded it you had no say in the resolution either and that is sad.

BTW, don't worry because you're on my private probation list, not the forum one. (and I don't own any 'Tec 37"'s either.)

 

It's too bad you can't get this angry at the seller because you do need to grow some if you want buy here or you are going to find more of your purchases walking away from you (but not from me)

 

Night Matt boy

What I learned from this thread:

 

Subliminal is a *spoon*. (thumbs u

 

What I learned from this post:

 

You are a master baiter but I don't eat worms or minnows

What I learned from this post:

 

Word play is neato. And since we're on the subject of eating...why don't you take some utensils and go *fork* yourself, *spoon*.

 

What I learned from your rebuttals:

 

 

 

 

WOW you can post pics

[Boboset]

I just want to say thanks to everybody for helping i greatly appreciate it

 

I just want to say "tell us WTF you agreed upon TO THE LETTER"

You took it to the people and now the people want to hear the conclusion. You can't just use us for your own satisfaction and leave us hanging.

That's not how a community works.

 

As far as I'm concerned you are both on my probation list until time stands still if you don't cough up the details. Don't bother buying from me, nor will I buy from you.

 

I'm happy that you came to an S & M type happy conclusion but someone give me my time back for 70 pages of selling research wasted by members agreeing in private that they aren't despicable to try to escape being put on the probation list in the end.

 

You my friend need to chill out maybe go back and read it again cause you apparently missed alot, i said time and time again i got screwed and theres nothin i can do, i dont have the book and never will what more do you want??

As far as putting me on the probation list seriously grow up and dont worry i wont buy from you and you can do the same from me. I didnt make the resolution private at all

 

You made the resolution private by not making it public, and from the way you have worded it you had no say in the resolution either and that is sad.

BTW, don't worry because you're on my private probation list, not the forum one. (and I don't own any 'Tec 37"'s either.)

 

It's too bad you can't get this angry at the seller because you do need to grow some if you want buy here or you are going to find more of your purchases walking away from you (but not from me)

 

Night Matt boy

What I learned from this thread:

 

Subliminal is a *spoon*. (thumbs u

 

I've dealt with Subliminal before and he has always come across as a good guy. I think he is very honest and gets very upset when he sees dishonest or selfish behaviour. I disagree with him in this case but think he is one of the good guys.

 

I'm perfectly happy with disagreeing with people because no one has the same opinion or approach to each issue but all of our input makes for a community decision

 

Its threads like this that brings lurker forumites to finally speak up and post their opinion after years of not speaking up on mediocre threads and I applaud that.

 

Matt and Yannis are BOTH responsible for fixing this and from the moment this drama thread was posted we are responsible for making sure it is within the satisfaction of the community.

Its not about how ugly the discussion is it is about results. Before I posted in it we knew next to nothing and the miffed buyer was unsatisfied and willing to accept caveat emtor as an excuse. I don't accept that and I'm disappointed Matt is willing to accept that since he was not happy and obviously making that known to the seller

 

He has a responsibility to this community if he participates in the sales forum and I don't give a what his friend or his friends GF wants to call me when she is tired and cranky, other than its just another opinion.

 

 

[Domo Arigato]

I just want to say thanks to everybody for helping i greatly appreciate it

 

I just want to say "tell us WTF you agreed upon TO THE LETTER"

You took it to the people and now the people want to hear the conclusion. You can't just use us for your own satisfaction and leave us hanging.

That's not how a community works.

 

As far as I'm concerned you are both on my probation list until time stands still if you don't cough up the details. Don't bother buying from me, nor will I buy from you.

 

I'm happy that you came to an S & M type happy conclusion but someone give me my time back for 70 pages of selling research wasted by members agreeing in private that they aren't despicable to try to escape being put on the probation list in the end.

 

You my friend need to chill out maybe go back and read it again cause you apparently missed alot, i said time and time again i got screwed and theres nothin i can do, i dont have the book and never will what more do you want??

As far as putting me on the probation list seriously grow up and dont worry i wont buy from you and you can do the same from me. I didnt make the resolution private at all

 

You made the resolution private by not making it public, and from the way you have worded it you had no say in the resolution either and that is sad.

BTW, don't worry because you're on my private probation list, not the forum one. (and I don't own any 'Tec 37"'s either.)

 

It's too bad you can't get this angry at the seller because you do need to grow some if you want buy here or you are going to find more of your purchases walking away from you (but not from me)

 

Night Matt boy

What I learned from this thread:

 

Subliminal is a *spoon*. (thumbs u

 

What I learned from this post:

 

You are a master baiter but I don't eat worms or minnows

What I learned from this post:

 

Word play is neato. And since we're on the subject of eating...why don't you take some utensils and go *fork* yourself, *spoon*.

 

What I learned from your rebuttals:

 

 

You learned that if you opened your fat mouth wide enough, you could continue to make a complete *spoon* out of yourself while simultaneously eating a pink bunny?

 

Congratulations!

[Subliminal]

I just want to say thanks to everybody for helping i greatly appreciate it

 

I just want to say "tell us WTF you agreed upon TO THE LETTER"

You took it to the people and now the people want to hear the conclusion. You can't just use us for your own satisfaction and leave us hanging.

That's not how a community works.

 

As far as I'm concerned you are both on my probation list until time stands still if you don't cough up the details. Don't bother buying from me, nor will I buy from you.

 

I'm happy that you came to an S & M type happy conclusion but someone give me my time back for 70 pages of selling research wasted by members agreeing in private that they aren't despicable to try to escape being put on the probation list in the end.

 

You my friend need to chill out maybe go back and read it again cause you apparently missed alot, i said time and time again i got screwed and theres nothin i can do, i dont have the book and never will what more do you want??

As far as putting me on the probation list seriously grow up and dont worry i wont buy from you and you can do the same from me. I didnt make the resolution private at all

 

You made the resolution private by not making it public, and from the way you have worded it you had no say in the resolution either and that is sad.

BTW, don't worry because you're on my private probation list, not the forum one. (and I don't own any 'Tec 37"'s either.)

 

It's too bad you can't get this angry at the seller because you do need to grow some if you want buy here or you are going to find more of your purchases walking away from you (but not from me)

 

Night Matt boy

What I learned from this thread:

 

Subliminal is a *spoon*. (thumbs u

 

I've dealt with Subliminal before and he has always come across as a good guy. I think he is very honest and gets very upset when he sees dishonest or selfish behaviour. I disagree with him in this case but think he is one of the good guys.

 

I'm perfectly happy with disagreeing with people because no one has the same opinion or approach to each issue but all of our input makes for a community decision

 

Its threads like this that brings lurker forumites to finally speak up and post their opinion after years of not speaking up on mediocre threads and I applaud that.

 

Matt and Yannis are BOTH responsible for fixing this and from the moment this drama thread was posted we are responsible for making sure it is within the satisfaction of the community.

Its not about how ugly the discussion is it is about results. Before I posted in it we knew next to nothing and the miffed buyer was unsatisfied and willing to accept caveat emtor as an excuse. I don't accept that and I'm disappointed Matt is willing to accept that since he was not happy and obviously making that known to the seller

 

He has a responsibility to this community if he participates in the sales forum and I don't give a what his friend or his friends GF wants to call me when she is tired and cranky, other than its just another opinion.

 

 

Why are u so miserable you seem real popular around here

 

For a guy who was too shy to post about getting robbed from your prize purchase you have been really chatty in this thread.

Just tell us you are happy or post the actual PMs then it is an actual community issue not a drama thread posted in general forum instead of where it belonged in the probation thread.

 

Are you happy? It's simple question , really. It could have been answered before Dan created this thread

[Comicdey]

This thread reminds me of a comic con thread without good pictures. Where are the manga girls, catwoman, poison ivy and other party shots?

[JazzMan]

[mt1000]

I just want to say thanks to everybody for helping i greatly appreciate it

 

I just want to say "tell us WTF you agreed upon TO THE LETTER"

You took it to the people and now the people want to hear the conclusion. You can't just use us for your own satisfaction and leave us hanging.

That's not how a community works.

 

As far as I'm concerned you are both on my probation list until time stands still if you don't cough up the details. Don't bother buying from me, nor will I buy from you.

 

I'm happy that you came to an S & M type happy conclusion but someone give me my time back for 70 pages of selling research wasted by members agreeing in private that they aren't despicable to try to escape being put on the probation list in the end.

 

You my friend need to chill out maybe go back and read it again cause you apparently missed alot, i said time and time again i got screwed and theres nothin i can do, i dont have the book and never will what more do you want??

As far as putting me on the probation list seriously grow up and dont worry i wont buy from you and you can do the same from me. I didnt make the resolution private at all

 

You made the resolution private by not making it public, and from the way you have worded it you had no say in the resolution either and that is sad.

BTW, don't worry because you're on my private probation list, not the forum one. (and I don't own any 'Tec 37"'s either.)

 

It's too bad you can't get this angry at the seller because you do need to grow some if you want buy here or you are going to find more of your purchases walking away from you (but not from me)

 

Night Matt boy

What I learned from this thread:

 

Subliminal is a *spoon*. (thumbs u

 

I've dealt with Subliminal before and he has always come across as a good guy. I think he is very honest and gets very upset when he sees dishonest or selfish behaviour. I disagree with him in this case but think he is one of the good guys.

 

I'm perfectly happy with disagreeing with people because no one has the same opinion or approach to each issue but all of our input makes for a community decision

 

Its threads like this that brings lurker forumites to finally speak up and post their opinion after years of not speaking up on mediocre threads and I applaud that.

 

Matt and Yannis are BOTH responsible for fixing this and from the moment this drama thread was posted we are responsible for making sure it is within the satisfaction of the community.

Its not about how ugly the discussion is it is about results. Before I posted in it we knew next to nothing and the miffed buyer was unsatisfied and willing to accept caveat emtor as an excuse. I don't accept that and I'm disappointed Matt is willing to accept that since he was not happy and obviously making that known to the seller

 

He has a responsibility to this community if he participates in the sales forum and I don't give a what his friend or his friends GF wants to call me when she is tired and cranky, other than its just another opinion.

 

 

Why are u so miserable you seem real popular around here

 

For a guy who was too shy to post about getting robbed from your prize purchase you have been really chatty in this thread.

Just tell us you are happy or post the actual PMs then it is an actual community issue not a drama thread posted in general forum instead of where it belonged in the probation thread.

 

Are you happy? It's simple question , really. It could have been answered before Dan created this thread

 

Im not shy 1st off Dan is my friend and he helped me being im new and he's been on here a while

Secondly it made people aware of a seller didnt it? And i said it before and ill say it again cause you obviously have a problem listening to anything but ITS A VERY PERSONAL PM HE SENT TO ME ABOUT HIS FAMILY AND IM NOT COMFORTABLE POSTING THIS and i was also told not too. Im sure you can find something better to do with your time right?

Edited May 2, 2010 by mt1000

[Beau]

Yannis...I don't know you, but that final post really didn't seem to apologetic.

 

Agreed. To me, it read like "Screw you guys, I'm going home!"

 

[Domo Arigato]

I just want to say thanks to everybody for helping i greatly appreciate it

 

I just want to say "tell us WTF you agreed upon TO THE LETTER"

You took it to the people and now the people want to hear the conclusion. You can't just use us for your own satisfaction and leave us hanging.

That's not how a community works.

 

As far as I'm concerned you are both on my probation list until time stands still if you don't cough up the details. Don't bother buying from me, nor will I buy from you.

 

I'm happy that you came to an S & M type happy conclusion but someone give me my time back for 70 pages of selling research wasted by members agreeing in private that they aren't despicable to try to escape being put on the probation list in the end.

 

You my friend need to chill out maybe go back and read it again cause you apparently missed alot, i said time and time again i got screwed and theres nothin i can do, i dont have the book and never will what more do you want??

As far as putting me on the probation list seriously grow up and dont worry i wont buy from you and you can do the same from me. I didnt make the resolution private at all

 

You made the resolution private by not making it public, and from the way you have worded it you had no say in the resolution either and that is sad.

BTW, don't worry because you're on my private probation list, not the forum one. (and I don't own any 'Tec 37"'s either.)

 

It's too bad you can't get this angry at the seller because you do need to grow some if you want buy here or you are going to find more of your purchases walking away from you (but not from me)

 

Night Matt boy

What I learned from this thread:

 

Subliminal is a *spoon*. (thumbs u

 

I've dealt with Subliminal before and he has always come across as a good guy. I think he is very honest and gets very upset when he sees dishonest or selfish behaviour. I disagree with him in this case but think he is one of the good guys.

 

I'm perfectly happy with disagreeing with people because no one has the same opinion or approach to each issue but all of our input makes for a community decision

 

Its threads like this that brings lurker forumites to finally speak up and post their opinion after years of not speaking up on mediocre threads and I applaud that.

 

Matt and Yannis are BOTH responsible for fixing this and from the moment this drama thread was posted we are responsible for making sure it is within the satisfaction of the community.

Its not about how ugly the discussion is it is about results. Before I posted in it we knew next to nothing and the miffed buyer was unsatisfied and willing to accept caveat emtor as an excuse. I don't accept that and I'm disappointed Matt is willing to accept that since he was not happy and obviously making that known to the seller

 

He has a responsibility to this community if he participates in the sales forum and I don't give a what his friend or his friends GF wants to call me when she is tired and cranky, other than its just another opinion.

 

 

Why are u so miserable you seem real popular around here

 

For a guy who was too shy to post about getting robbed from your prize purchase you have been really chatty in this thread.

Just tell us you are happy or post the actual PMs then it is an actual community issue not a drama thread posted in general forum instead of where it belonged in the probation thread.

 

Are you happy? It's simple question , really. It could have been answered before Dan created this thread

If Yannis told him private information in confidence and mt1000 chooses to honor that agreement, then that's his choice and I think it's a respectable one. mt1000 has made it clear that he's not happy with the excuse he was given, but that the reasoning behind it was of a very personal nature to Yannis and that he agreed not to share it. I certainly wouldn't let someone else dictate when I'm to divulge private information in here just because the *spoon* thinks it's owed to him.

 

Get over yourself.

[Comicdey]

Not quite catwoman

 

but cartman will have to do?

[mt1000]

K i have to go to bed , i know i am somewhat keeping this going on because i keep responding to subliminal so ill stop and me and him will settle this in PM's

[Beau]

Im not shy 1st off Dan is my friend and he helped me being im new and he's been on here a while

Secondly it made people aware of a seller didnt it? And i said it before and ill say it again cause you obviously have a problem listening to anything but ITS A VERY PERSONAL PM HE SENT TO ME ABOUT HIS FAMILY AND IM NOT COMFORTABLE POSTING THIS and i was also told not too. Im sure you can find something better to do with your time right?

 

Eh, just ignore Subliminal, he's trolling. As I said in an earlier post, he's seeking schadenfreude. So you're on his "OMG, NEVER SELL TO THIS PERSON" list, who cares. His posts in this thread have placed him on my "OMG, NEVER BUY FROM THIS PERSON, HE'S A TOOL" list.

 

It all evens out.

 

Kinda sad, because I liked his posts before this debacle.

[t3quila]

No offense, but Matt won't send you another dollar no matter what kind of book you have. Never in a million years.

 

 

No one is asking Matt to send money, but Yannis should be allowed to try to make amends, after all none is without fault. Also Yannis isn't the first to ignore PM's.

Seems to me that you are sticking up for Yannis, why is that? What amends can Yannis do?

 

You really are a wanker, Yannis wishes to try to make amends, he should be allowed to try, Mattt can refuse etc, but everyone is allowed a second chance, comic supply had several chances I seem to recall

[Domo Arigato]

K i have to go to bed , i know i am somewhat keeping this going on because i keep responding to subliminal so ill stop and me and him will settle this in PM's

Fine...but since this is a community issue...we're going to need you to post all of those PM's publicly tomorrow so we can analyze them.